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Standard mushrooms vs. aborts - Potency!
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Hey gang,

When i take 3 grams of normal mushrooms, no aborts i usually get a level 3. If i were to take 3 grams of only aborts what level would i get to (roughly)?

Thanks
Fd


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Re: Standard mushrooms vs. aborts - Potency! [Re: Fd3000]
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id say ud more than likely get a 5. At least i know i would, but i also seem to be pretty sensitive to mushrooms

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Re: Standard mushrooms vs. aborts - Potency! [Re: TwistedRedneck]
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There is no difference by weight between aborts and full mature mushroom fruits other than what can be expected between any two fruits. There is no evidence that ive seen that shows otherwise


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Re: Standard mushrooms vs. aborts - Potency! [Re: Zen Peddler]
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bluemeanie- Perhaps i phrased the question wrong, or maybe you read it wrong i dunno. Anyways i ment in trip strength, you know level 1, level 2 etc. I didnt mean actual weight, that would make no sence. Like what weighs more a pound of bricks or a pound of feathers....

The question was based upon the theory that aborts are more potent then average mature fruit bodies....

Anyone else wanna take a stab at the question?
Fd


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Edited by Fd3000 (10/02/02 10:13 PM)

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Re: Standard mushrooms vs. aborts - Potency! [Re: Fd3000]
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'The question was based upon the theory that aborts are more potent then average mature fruit bodies....'
And my reply was based on this theory being incorrect - because it is. There is no difference in the potency of mature fruits and aborts - can you show me a study or reference that shows otherwise?


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Re: Standard mushrooms vs. aborts - Potency! [Re: Zen Peddler]
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I was under the impression that mushrooms produce psilocybin and psilosin until the veil breaks. After that the mushrooms gain mass without gaining any more potency. Therefore aborts are as potent as they can be for their weight. If the mushrooms were harvested just as the veil broke then they would be equally potent as aborts by weight.


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Re: Standard mushrooms vs. aborts - Potency! [Re: Dankman]
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ha ha. I just read this in the "why is everybody a retard" post.

its the same as people on this site who still suggest that the veil has some relevance to the alkaloid production of cubensis fruits when there is no evidence to suggest it at all.
Or that differing sporeraces contain the same level of alkaloids when there are clear quantative alkaloid analysis references available to demonstrate otherwise


Maybe I'm wrong?


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Re: Standard mushrooms vs. aborts - Potency! [Re: Zen Peddler] * 1
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bluemeanie said:
There is no difference in the potency of mature fruits and aborts - can you show me a study or reference that shows otherwise?



There are a few.(yes, I know this post is 3 years old...):
Check
Are aborts more potent than fully grown mushrooms?


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Re: Standard mushrooms vs. aborts - Potency! [Re: Anno]
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I don't think there is any concrete research on the subject. However a lot of experienced mush eaters will tell you the aborts are more potent. In my experience I have found this to be true, but only slightly more so...

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Re: Standard mushrooms vs. aborts - Potency! [Re: Mcdoopy]
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>I don't think there is any concrete research on the subject.

Did you even bother to read the link I provided?


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Re: Standard mushrooms vs. aborts - Potency! [Re: Anno]
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Anno said:
>I don't think there is any concrete research on the subject.

Did you even bother to read the link I provided?


"...Since the studies don't indicate whether the specimens used in this research were simply smaller or not fully grown, no definitive answer can be given for aborts..."

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Re: Standard mushrooms vs. aborts - Potency! [Re: Mcdoopy]
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"...., but is is very likely that aborts fit into this behavior and thus are more potent (per gram) than large mushroms...."


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Re: Standard mushrooms vs. aborts - Potency! [Re: Anno]
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Aborts contain the same amount of psilocybin as a mature mushroom would, so 3 aborts would be = to 3 mature shrooms. The reason people say they trip harder on aborts is probably because they're weighing them, and 3g of aborts is obviously going to contain a lot more psilocybin than 3g of mature mushrooms.


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Re: Standard mushrooms vs. aborts - Potency! [Re: Kodath] * 1
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Quote:
Aborts contain the same amount of psilocybin as a mature mushroom would, so 3 aborts would be = to 3 mature shrooms.


yah but that's pure speculation.


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Re: Standard mushrooms vs. aborts - Potency! [Re: coda] * 2
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Pure speculation until you are seeing aliens and deities on 5 grams of aborts.
I know the post is old af but I thought I'd post based on my experience with aborts.
Based on weight, they pack a punch. I'd rather eat 5 grams of aborts that 5 grams of mature shrooms.

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Re: Standard mushrooms vs. aborts - Potency! [Re: frostboss] * 1
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i agree and have seen that in my experience as well. i think the mature fruits just add more weight while similar levels of alkaloids are present in the younger fruits.

i think the alkaloid content will be much higher on 10 small fruits weighing 5g compared to 1 big ass mfer weighing 5gs. i always prefer to pick before the veil breaks to have denser smaller fruits that pack more of a punch gram for gram.


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