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Mushroom Capsules
    #1726163 - 07/17/03 10:37 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

SWIM has some mushroom capsules, 500mg a piece.
How long are they good for? And do you lose any potency?
IE, would eating 7 of these capsules (3.5 grams) = to eating 3.5 grams of just whole, dried mushrooms?

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Re: Mushroom Capsules [Re: daba]
    #1726182 - 07/17/03 10:44 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

If you're worried about potency loss then keep them in a glass jar. They will keep for as long as you want.

They will be the same as eating whole mushrooms but they will take longer to kick in. The gell capsule has to desolve and that takes a while. (possibly 1:30min)

I say, when your ready to eat them, dump them out into a drink or something. This way they will kick in much sooner. (15min)


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Re: Mushroom Capsules [Re: OctopusDr]
    #1726191 - 07/17/03 10:47 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

SWIM says thats a relief.
Someone told him that grinding mushrooms will lose potency quickly.
SWIM is glad that he can store them for a long time in a glass jar (with a cork?)


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Re: Mushroom Capsules [Re: daba]
    #1726357 - 07/17/03 11:53 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Mushroom capsules DO take a long time to kick in. You'd be better off putting the powder into a drink, like Octopus recommended, or putting a bit of powder on the back of your tongue, and washing down with OJ until it's all gone.


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Re: Mushroom Capsules [Re: Sheepish]
    #1726532 - 07/18/03 01:05 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I'm just wondering if they lose potency over time. Or if they deteriorate.


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    #1726646 - 07/18/03 01:46 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Mushroom Capsules [Re: Alien]
    #1727515 - 07/18/03 01:56 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

i dont think they loose any potency but i heard that they will make you trip harder.


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Re: Mushroom Capsules [Re: daba]
    #1727627 - 07/18/03 02:45 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

One thing to bear in mind is I know the capsules will be "500mg" size but there's pretty much zero chance you'll get anything like 500mg of mushroom into it. Even grinding dried mushrooms with a coffee grinder still leaves pretty big chunks. They arn't like powder. I use 00 capsules which are supposed to hold up 800-1200mg. I need around 25 to get a mild dose.


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Re: Mushroom Capsules [Re: Xlea321]
    #1727703 - 07/18/03 03:14 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

sorry, um...SWIM = ? hmm...some one i met?


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Re: Mushroom Capsules [Re: Viaggio]
    #1727728 - 07/18/03 03:23 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

25?!?!?!?!?!!? how can that be. if they are from 0.8 to 1.2 grams each then that is like 20 grams.


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Re: Mushroom Capsules [Re: Xlea321] * 1
    #1727730 - 07/18/03 03:23 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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One thing to bear in mind is I know the capsules will be "500mg" size but there's pretty much zero chance you'll get anything like 500mg of mushroom into it


That is so not true. I can get 0.5 - 0.6g into size 00 capsules.

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Even grinding dried mushrooms with a coffee grinder still leaves pretty big chunks.


Not for me. I get a very fine powder with an electric coffee grinder. So fine that it will just float away.

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I use 00 capsules which are supposed to hold up 800-1200mg. I need around 25 to get a mild dose.



Size 00 will hold half a gram. For a mild dose equaling 3 grams you need to eat 6 capsules, which is reasonable to me.


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Re: Mushroom Capsules [Re: OctopusDr]
    #1727771 - 07/18/03 03:52 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Not for me. I get a very fine powder with an electric coffee grinder. So fine that it will just float away.

Fine powder? Do you mean when you open the top of the electric grinder? Do you find the rest of the mushroom is that fine?

What capsuling method are you using? I'm using the cap-m-quik device.


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Re: Mushroom Capsules [Re: crazycanadian]
    #1727777 - 07/18/03 03:54 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

25?!?!?!?!?!!? how can that be. if they are from 0.8 to 1.2 grams each then that is like 20 grams.

Maybe cap-m-quik isn't the best method but it seemed the best I could find. I tamp the mushroom into the capsules as hard as I can but still need a good 25-35 capsules for a dose.


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Re: Mushroom Capsules [Re: daba]
    #1727860 - 07/18/03 04:21 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

After several experiences of myself and my friends with OO capsules, each filled with a half gram of cubensis, I believe they come on faster and make for a slightly stronger but slightly shorter trip.  Similar to what I've heard/read of tea.

My theory for this is that the powder presents a greater surface area for faster absorption and if you take the capsules at once, the full dose is absorbed rather quickly.

Perhaps it depends on the type of capsule (I've read that vegi-caps do take a while), but I've found most gelatin capsules that I've taken dissolve quickly.  Even when taking herbal "supplements" I often burp soon after taking them and taste the herb.  This also happens with the mushrooms.

Encapsulated is my preferred method, I think it`s great, so have fun! :smile: 


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Re: Mushroom Capsules [Re: psyphon]
    #1727931 - 07/18/03 04:50 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

hey, guys, I checked all the pharmacies and a GNC in my area and found absolutely zero capsules. can anybody give me the name of a store they know sells "OO" size caps? thx

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Re: Mushroom Capsules [Re: Xlea321]
    #1727949 - 07/18/03 04:58 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)


Cap-m-quick machine with 224 "00" capsules in each bag(1/4 lb. of mushies each).& 7 damn sure does the trick.Takes about 1 1/2hr to START to kick in.The mushies are put in a food dehydrator till crumble dry put in a coffee grinder till powder('bout 15 seconds).then the powder is measured in 25 gram amounts(prep work-50 cap at 1/2g =25g of powder.Then the process of filling.The person uses a TAMPER also.....otherwise there is no way .5g can fit in the capsule.Then they r put in a ziplock and put in cool dark place till use.The person said they tried some that were about 13-14 months old and still got the same affect.
Alex123 u don't know what the fuck u r doing.Period
Oct knows what's up.
BTW SWIM said they were 100% WILD cubies and that it took less when indoors were consumed......Also u can tell by look.....Indoors have a lighter color to them.


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Re: Mushroom Capsules [Re: em_bre_O] * 1
    #1728286 - 07/18/03 07:02 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Come on man, who do you think you are Stephen Hawking? We're not talking rocket science here. You take them out the fucking coffee grinder and tamp them into the capsules as hard as you can. There's not too much can go wrong. I've conducted PhD lab experiments so filling a capsule isn't beyond me.

Maybe my tolerance is higher than I thought.

How many average sized cubensis mushrooms do you think you can get in the 7 capsules?


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Re: Mushroom Capsules [Re: Xlea321]
    #1728356 - 07/18/03 07:25 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Well, I've taken shrooms in caps plenty of times. And I dont even have a coffe grinder. I just chop them up with a big knife. And I can also fit about 0.5 grams of dried shrooms in a 00-cap, even though there's some chunks in between. But I'm usually pretty much there about 1 hour after ingestion... works for me :smile: But vegi-caps, as said, takes a lot longer to dissolve.
And I will have to go with psyphon here. Since its powder instead of big chunks, it will be absorbed quicker.

I've also tried some, 2-3 months after been put on caps. doesn't seem to affect the potency... but thats just my experience


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Re: Mushroom Capsules [Re: OctopusDr]
    #1728621 - 07/18/03 09:14 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

What kind of coffee grinder is yours? I once tried using one I found in my parents cupboard, but it's the most hopeless grinder I've seen.


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Re: Mushroom Capsules [Re: Sheepish]
    #1728655 - 07/18/03 09:28 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

just my 2 cents... I use the geltabs to store my shroomies...

I suggest after powdering what you are going to pack... Allow to completely dry in a chamber with damp-rid in it, or any other drying agent. This will zap the moisture which will aide in preservation. And when storing... use a normal pill bottle... but get a small dessicant pack to throw in the bottle... keeps excess moisture out.

Mine have lasted quite a while... but I have never put the self-life to the test. I would say that they last about 2-3 years logically, but I could be wrong. I go thru them too quick to find out... but message me in 3 years and we will see! haha


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