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Re: Terence Mckennas Novelty Theory [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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You mean Jan Irvin?

he was a latecomer. I's did a blog about 'psychedelic transhumanists' LONG before Irvin's ultra paranoid arse hit the scene. JUST because he goes right over the top with a lot of shit doesn't mean there aint something in T.M being some kind of useful idiot for the Illuminati

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Re: Terence Mckennas Novelty Theory [Re: zzripz]
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Jan irvin yes, not exactly a credible source for mckenna data

If there was any credible evidence to his informat status I would review but there isn't any, so i deduce he wasn't one.

It doesn't make sense either, why exactly would he be important to a non-existent conspiracy to eat babes and enslave humanity?

He was broke most of his life, he did sell LSD which is why I don't he didn't bring it up very much.

5-6 times a year he would leave hawaii to give talks about shamanism, dmt, mushrooms and tell stories.

He was really a grumpy reclusive anti-social asshole on a personal level

It doesn't add up at all, he was on the fringe of society.


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Re: Terence Mckennas Novelty Theory [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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It doesn't make sense either, why exactly would he be important to a non-existent conspiracy to eat babes and enslave humanity?


well -if you not even up on this your not are you?

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Re: Terence Mckennas Novelty Theory [Re: zzripz]
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zzripz said:
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It doesn't make sense either, why exactly would he be important to a non-existent conspiracy to eat babes and enslave humanity?


well -if you not even up on this your not are you?


It is hard to be well versed in the delusions of other people.

:hahthatsrich:


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Re: Terence Mckennas Novelty Theory [Re: zzripz]
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In the video I linked, and in other talks and books Mckenna claims 'no one is in control'...? Now, most of his follwers claim he was so intelligent, and even that only intelligent followers will dig what he meant about stuff. But to me to say THAT, it is either dumb as fuck OR he is deliberate disinfo

NO one in control...? WTF! The ones in control are SUCH control freaks they make sure to measure their buidlings according to occult measurements, and locate them on meridans etc that are meaningful to them and also 'as above so below'. we are talkin control FREAKS.

And if you are not aware of this then you are what their branch if Satanists from the Church of Satan called 'the DEAD'---people that don't know what's going on around them, or is being done to them

Yet McKenna and RAW would make out that looking into conspiracy theory is whacko cause noone's in control. I see that as extremely suspicious . And for post 9/11 generations to believe that gaff is even worse

Where me and Irvin part company is he denounces the WHOLE of the psychedelic counterculture, and even 'wild dancing'. he is a dick

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Re: Terence Mckennas Novelty Theory [Re: Sun King]
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Sun King said:
zzripz said:
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It doesn't make sense either, why exactly would he be important to a non-existent conspiracy to eat babes and enslave humanity?


well -if you not even up on this your not are you?


It is hard to be well versed in the delusions of other people.

:hahthatsrich:


:curbyourenthusiasm::thumbup:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Terence Mckennas Novelty Theory [Re: zzripz]
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huh? jokes on you

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Re: Terence Mckennas Novelty Theory [Re: zzripz]
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You really think human beings are competent enough to control every aspect of the entire human world?  Come on...:rolleyes: 

People are just people, Obama might be the commander in chief of the US but at the end of the day he shits in a porcelain bowl like the rest of us.  You give these guys too much credit.

There are way too many variables to take into account to be able to "control" (what ever that means) the world.

It's a nice and tidy wrapped up in a bow easy to understand belief the illuminati control the world... I don't think it's true.  Sure there are groups of people who use their money and power to control what they can like the bilderberg group, but what they can try to "control" is a very very small percentage of the world.  Reality doesn't work in easy to follow palatable stories there is a lot more grey areas and unknown factors at play


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Re: Terence Mckennas Novelty Theory [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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They do get too much credit imo and it's a main way we continue with the status quo.  We blame the rich and powerful for our woes when in reality we choose them and voted for them and support them. 

It's the average guy on the street that we really need to be worried about.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Terence Mckennas Novelty Theory [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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your not listeningggg

I said I part company with Jan Irvin when he claims that the CIA totally owned the whole of the psychedelic counterculture. That idea to me is ultra paranoid and disempowers everyone and the psyche and/or spirit

You are blocked from looking into this, I feel, because you have an IMAGE of what control is

to them--the mega rich it is a game. you are a pet to them. Especially if naive. You have no idea of the different layers of control, from the 'education' system, mass media, corporate advertising, politics, the mental illness myth, and the psychiatric drugs, the war on drugs, false flags, staged shootings

They have the money and time to implement all these, and the occult codes, and magick

Like I said, 9/11 was THE shock that should have got people looking into this. They create myths. Make you believe a reality. People as robots being led by the nose to get chips inserted up the arse and BEGGING for it, but not knowing WHY they are. THAT is control

go out and see all the people mes,erized looking at their 'smart'phones. THAT is control. That has taken conpiracicies to get people doing that

Not me though. Aint got one :crazy2:

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Re: Terence Mckennas Novelty Theory [Re: zzripz]
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Good think having a computer isn't control. :thumbup:

If by conspiracy you mean an ad campaign then I agree but everyone is in on it.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

Edited by Icelander (02/18/15 05:58 PM)

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Re: Terence Mckennas Novelty Theory [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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Yeah.  I would call the machinations from the top echelons of the socioeconomic pyramid to be not so much about control, but about influencing and guiding society in certain behaviors -- usually economic ones -- with the intent to preserve the status quo as much as possible, in order to protect common interests.  I think the truth is that no one is really properly in control, and major crises can cause catastrophe for anybody.  Also, the mob can be very unpredictable at times, and they certainly cannot stop that.


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Re: Terence Mckennas Novelty Theory [Re: zzripz]
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zzripz said:
In the video I linked, and in other talks and books Mckenna claims 'no one is in control'...? Now, most of his follwers claim he was so intelligent, and even that only intelligent followers will dig what he meant about stuff. But to me to say THAT, it is either dumb as fuck OR he is deliberate disinfo

NO one in control...? WTF! The ones in control are SUCH control freaks they make sure to measure their buidlings according to occult measurements, and locate them on meridans etc that are meaningful to them and also 'as above so below'. we are talkin control FREAKS.

And if you are not aware of this then you are what their branch if Satanists from the Church of Satan called 'the DEAD'---people that don't know what's going on around them, or is being done to them

Yet McKenna and RAW would make out that looking into conspiracy theory is whacko cause noone's in control. I see that as extremely suspicious . And for post 9/11 generations to believe that gaff is even worse

Where me and Irvin part company is he denounces the WHOLE of the psychedelic counterculture, and even 'wild dancing'. he is a dick



You may not be part of the so-called "DEAD" but you ARE part of the :underage:


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: Terence Mckennas Novelty Theory [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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Re: Terence Mckennas Novelty Theory [Re: Sun King]
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That was fucking great, Sun King.


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Re: Terence Mckennas Novelty Theory [Re: zzripz]
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I agree they make myths like "I did not have sexual relations with that woman"

They're not smart enough to pull off the shit you think they can.  The government is made up of people, your neighbors, your extended family, your community.  These aren't a exclusive race of super humans.  If they can't even keep the president getting his dick sucked a secret how would the thousands of people who (didn't... but) would have rigged 9/11 keep secret?  You don't think there would be a single whistle blower?  Did the super humans do something to them?  Did super humans do the job themselves? 




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Edited by Cognitive_Shift (02/18/15 07:59 PM)

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Re: Terence Mckennas Novelty Theory [Re: DividedQuantum]
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DividedQuantum said:
That was fucking great, Sun King.


He had nothing to do with the production. :nono:


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Re: Terence Mckennas Novelty Theory [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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How do you know?  :watchingyou:


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Re: Terence Mckennas Novelty Theory [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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Cognitive_Shift said:
I agree they make myths like "I did not have sexual relations with that woman"

They're not smart enough to pull off the shit you think they can.  The government is made up of people, your neighbors, your extended family, your community.  These aren't a exclusive race of super humans.  If they can't even keep the president getting his dick sucked a secret how would the thousands of people who (didn't... but) would have rigged 9/11 keep secret?  You don't think there would be a single whistle blower?  Did the super humans do something to them?  Did super humans do the job themselves? 





OK, take a look at this video. There is not a whisper of anything occult, of any Illuminati or even Skull and Bones, which we know three generations of the Bush family were members of, but IF you get what is being shown you see clearly that they/the puppets of the elites, including the mass media, are using a same formula through the generations to con people into accepting war, and seducing them and their kids to go to their wars they have CONSPIRATORIALLY fabricated . Now try and see this as a layer of mindcontrol



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‘42:29 'During World War 10% of all casualties were civilians.

During World War II the number of civilian deaths rose to 50%.

During the Vietnam War 70% of all casualties were civilians.

In the war in Iraq, civilians account for 90% of all deaths.


1:04:39 'Rep' Barbara Lee, of California, cast the only vote challenging the authority of the President' And this is a very common motif of history of the last several decades where people who at the time were portrayed as loners, as mavericks, as outside of the mainstream of wisdom turned out to understand  the historical moment...'Senator Wayne Morse was one of only two senators to vote against the Gulf of Tonkin resolution authorizing the use of force in Vietnam.'



So please connect the dots. If you can understand what is being said here, with this utter evil, then you can understand there are more levels of control going on also...?
Also, that just because there are a 'few' whistleblowers that expose 9/11 etc as a false flag does not mean anything to do with the more people who believe the official story = the truth.

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Re: Terence Mckennas Novelty Theory [Re: zzripz]
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I cant get your link to work zzripz.

If its the whole agent mckenna theory I had posted a link to it a few days back.

http://www.gnosticmedia.com/McKenna-Agent


-eleusis borodin

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