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Re: Polyfil ironed out to create 'SFDs' [Re: Sits]
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I just inoculated 6 jars WBS with 3 types of lids. My experience was as follows:

Jars 1-3: Combined this tek with SpitballJedi's Lid Tek. (Opened jar to inoculate)
-The SFD stayed nice and neat in the lid, didn't seem disturbed by normal shaking.

Jar 4: Used this tek with a rigid SFD under the plastic lid. (Opened jar to inoculate)
-The jar was quite hard to open with one hand and the SFD stayed on the jar when I lifted the lid (pretty much ruining my sterile procedure)

Jars 5-6: Used TL's lid tek with SHIPs
-Easy as usual, though not as sterile because of the needle being pushed through silicone.

Now to see if they contaminate!

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Re: Polyfil ironed out to create 'SFDs' [Re: Sits]
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Sits said:
Jars 5-6: Used TL's lid tek with SHIPs
-Easy as usual, though not as sterile because of the needle being pushed through silicone.


How is that not sterile? You PCed the jar, flamed the needle, and wiped the SHIP with iso correct?


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Re: Polyfil ironed out to create 'SFDs' [Re: PussyFart]
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Yessir, I just mean that technically a SHIP isn't sterile technique. If I'm not mistaken, wiping something with ISO is sanitization but not sterilization. I dunno, I could be way off here.

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Re: Polyfil ironed out to create 'SFDs' [Re: Sits]
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Using a SHIP the right way is just as good as any other method.....even if it was wiped with alcohol....:thumbup:


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THIS HOBBY IS NOT FOR THE IMPATIENT! PLEASE BE PATIENT, DON'T BE A PATIENT!
A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD,
SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List,
EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
*** *** AFGHAN KUSH GROW LOG *** ***

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Re: Polyfil ironed out to create 'SFDs' [Re: PussyFart]
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I agree and I definitely prefer a SHIP. I just did this small trial because I messed up and didn't prep lids with silicone in time. :shrug:

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Re: Polyfil ironed out to create 'SFDs' [Re: Sits]
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Are you still happy with the Mainstays brand lids?


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Re: Polyfil ironed out to create 'SFDs' [Re: SpitballJedi]
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SpitballJedi said:
Are you still happy with the Mainstays brand lids?


Yes very, they drill fairly easily and they're sturdy.  They last a long time and they create a great seal.  They become very loose when I remove them from the PC but from what I've heard most any plastic lids do that.  :shrug::shrug:


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Re: Polyfil ironed out to create 'SFDs' [Re: Dilated]
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From what I've read, the loose lids don't seem to be a problem. I wasn't sure about the brand though, but they are a lot cheaper than the Ball brand. I will pick some up tonight. Thx. You're a good member of this community.


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Re: Polyfil ironed out to create 'SFDs' [Re: SpitballJedi]
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I almost got plastic lids on my last lid purchase.  Do you prefer them over metal lids?  I imagine they are easier to deal with.  All they had were the mainstays (wally world was out of everything canning related almost) and decided against them.


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Re: Polyfil ironed out to create 'SFDs' [Re: SpitballJedi]
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I like that they are 1 solid piece so when I'm going G2G it makes things that much easier.  They can be PC'd over and over again and you don't have to worry about rust.  I don't know how people can have rusty lids and have sound piece of mind.. :shrug:

SpitballJedi said:
From what I've read, the loose lids don't seem to be a problem. I wasn't sure about the brand though, but they are a lot cheaper than the Ball brand. I will pick some up tonight. Thx. You're a good member of this community.


thanks man you're great to have around here as well!  I have a break through that I'm in the process of testing and I'll tag you when I come out with the new tek!


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Re: Polyfil ironed out to create 'SFDs' [Re: Dilated]
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Dilated said:
I like that they are 1 solid piece so when I'm going G2G it makes things that much easier.


:whathesaid:


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Re: Polyfil ironed out to create 'SFDs' [Re: SpitballJedi]
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This shit better work, Dilated :wink:


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Re: Polyfil ironed out to create 'SFDs' [Re: Haywire]
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Haywire said:


This shit better work, Dilated :wink:


:rockon: :goodluck: :popcorn:


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Re: Polyfil ironed out to create 'SFDs' [Re: Dilated]
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quick question

when autoclaving I always put aluminum foil over my jars as you can see in the pics. I always end up with wet filters though. any ideas on how to prevent that shit from happening? I mean they're not soaked or anything but still wet...

Dilated said:
Haywire said:


This shit better work, Dilated :wink:


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Re: Polyfil ironed out to create 'SFDs' [Re: Haywire]
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maybe tighten the foil a bit mor under the lid but that shouldn't be happening. Though they say you don't need to use foil with sfds, I think the foil does help as i had jars that had a mushy starchy burst grain bottom because water was getting through the sfd from dripping off the pc lid and the jars stacked on top. Maybe if you can after sterilization, remove the foil and shake em while they are still hot and the water should evaporate quickly.


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Re: Polyfil ironed out to create 'SFDs' [Re: Haywire]
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Haywire said:


This shit better work, Dilated :wink:


What did you use to glue down the filters?  Make sure it has a WORKING temp of like 400 or so.  Thats why RTV is used, it is designed to be used in engines, and has a working temp of like 450c, well above the temp of a pc.  Working temp means the temp at which it will not deform or melt under that temp.


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Re: Polyfil ironed out to create 'SFDs' [Re: tombosley8]
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tombosley8 said:
maybe tighten the foil a bit mor under the lid but that shouldn't be happening. Though they say you don't need to use foil with sfds, I think the foil does help as i had jars that had a mushy starchy burst grain bottom because water was getting through the sfd from dripping off the pc lid and the jars stacked on top. Maybe if you can after sterilization, remove the foil and shake em while they are still hot and the water should evaporate quickly.


:whathesaid:  I have the same issue, but I just take em out when they are still hot and they dry in seconds.  The nice thing about polyester filling is it is hydrophobic (and oleophilic) making id dry really fast.  This is tru of any PET polyester, and one of the reasons I like it over cellulose SFD's.


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Re: Polyfil ironed out to create 'SFDs' [Re: MastaBlastar]
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ive read several times any 100% silicone will work fine because pc temps don't get nearly that high. I used red rtv on all my lids too:shrug:


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Re: Polyfil ironed out to create 'SFDs' [Re: tombosley8]
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And I can second that its true.
Clear bathroom silicone works just as fine as any colored rtv silicone.

I'm quite sure RR says the rtv stuff comes off faster too, and therefore standard silicone is even better.
Yes, look here:

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Just make sure you use the red automotive RTV because it is rated for higher temps.  A PC gets up there in temp and I have had other RTVs fail.


Not correct.  This is the biggest mistake guys make when they use silicone. RTV silicone is designed for much hotter temps than found in a pressure cooker and it doesn't cure properly, usually peeling off later.

Simply use regular silicone, not the high temp RTV.
RR


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Re: Polyfil ironed out to create 'SFDs' [Re: spacechildo]
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I used tec7 clear bathroom silicone. it held up very well. it did dry very quickly. the only thing that worries me is this. when the jars cool down, they suck in air. that air had to go through the polyfill disk but when it's wet it's a vector for contams...


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