crazycanadian said:

Fuck the DEA
Fuck the government
Fuck humans

sorry. the shit that is going on in the world pisses me off a lot sometimes. One of those times is now. I dont want to forget like most people would want to do over a bottle of JD. I want to remember and do something about it. Isnt in the bill of rights to be able to own a weapon? 2nd amendment? The reason why that is there is so if the government becomes tyrannical and oppressive the people have a fighting chance of taking it down. Personally I believe that the government should be taken down. But then you have to look at who the government is. The government is just international corperations trying to achieve globalization and stealing money and gettting away with it. The government is just a medium between the people and the corperations and decisions between countries. So many people are blinded by media and all sorts of shit. Everyone is brainwashed into believing the government is good and everything they do is good. They are controlled by the TV. They hear some person say something on the TV and they believe it. They will see how some celebrity ont he TV and then dress like them and think that they are cool just because MTV says they are. But who controls the media...the government...thats who. The government just wants everybody to be happy in their houses and go to work everyday and do their bit in society and come back to their house and do nothing. They want you to be a consumer so they can steal your money and use it to drop bombs on countries that will not comply with them. Where are the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? Wasnt that the reason for the war in the first place? Or was it the oil that the US could steal after they have taken over Iraq and globalized it with McDonalds and shopping malls? And why the fuck do they want drugs to be illegal? Whats the reasoning behind that one? (I guess that could go into a long dissucssion). I am just pissed at a lot of shit right now. Humans are just animans of this planet so why cant we live like them too? Every animal can do whatever it wants. I think the Native Indians were way more advanced that we were. They lived in small communities where practically everybody got along and they just lived peacefully...except when one tribe was on the other tribes land and then there were fights sometimes. I would like to live as an Indian back in the day before white men came along to this beautiful country. Whatever...I think I will stop ranting now. I feel better now that i wrote all that down anyway. I still feel pissed. No drugs for me anytime soon.

Out

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I guess its definately different in the states, but i think people OD'ing on super pure heroin

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PDU said:

Start a geurilla revoltion...id love to see it. Armed citizens with idea's will quickly be labeled as "extremeist militia's" and will be taken out very quickly, without making a dent. Your story, your nobility wouldnt even make it to the press... you would be a "terrorist".
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Im sorry man....were fucked.

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Sev said:

PDU said:

Start a geurilla revoltion...id love to see it. Armed citizens with idea's will quickly be labeled as "extremeist militia's" and will be taken out very quickly, without making a dent. Your story, your nobility wouldnt even make it to the press... you would be a "terrorist".
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Im sorry man....were fucked.

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I agree with a lot of your post -- I've gone through a similar period of depression, hopelessness, and apathy. It's wrong, though.

Yes, small groups of radicals will always be taken out. What's required for an actual (bloody, violent, quick) revolution in the US is some kind of massive polarization of the populace -- a final straw that breaks the back. I don't know if this can happen in this country, though, given the massive complacency that most Americans seem to hold in regard to the government and its doings. However ... people are getting fed up, and large masses of people are getting unhappy, desirous of change.

Economically, our society is becoming even more pyramidal, with more wealth being concentrated in the top and less in the masses. This is a classic set-up for revolution. I don't think economic forces alone will touch one off, though.

What's required is active memetic warfare against the current system, especially if we wish to undergo radical political change with a minimum of bloodshed and damage to the infrastructure. I don't know how to do this, but I know it's required. Unfortunately, this is hard -- it requires talent, it requires the vehicles of the memes to be sensible and persuasive, and it requires that the people it infects spread it to really work. People need to be, well, evangelized about their rights and the things that are wrong with this country.

...People need to be more educated, too, and taught how to think. Unfortunately, with the quality of our schools only declining, we're becoming, as a mass, more and more sheep-like. "It's wrong because it's against the law" is the best example of this unthinkingness.

Blah. Anyway. Things have to change. Things will change, eventually. It's up to us to try and make them change sooner.

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tooky said:

You're right we aren't the majority, but attitudes are changing. Perhaps in the USA they are changing more slowly than elsewhere, but they are changing.

The drug campaigners have to continue the fight against the misinformation spread by the governments. Drug use is becoming more and more widespread in the face of the US government's war on drugs. The public need people, like the people in this forum, to show them how ineffectual the war on drugs is, to show them that battliong against drugs won't fix the problems they see, because those problems are caused by the war on drugs.

Don't try to fight against the war on drugs, spend your energy discrediting it. Run for office as a single policy candidate, perhaps as pro-marijuana candidate. Write letters to your representatives. Its not illegal to talk about drugs, so start talking!

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PDU said:
People Kill because Of the money involved, there will still be people robbing, mugging, and screwing whoever if drug's are involved. As bill hicks says "drugs are pretty important to a drug addict" a person hooked on drug's, or even just looking for the easy way are still going to commit crime to get drug's. If theres a supply, the demand(ers) will find a way to get their drug's no matter what.

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