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Re: Is Entheogen Popularity On The Rise? [Re: tooky]
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I wonder how the US government will react as its closest (*shudder*) ally moves closer to legalising weed?




Sanctions and warplanes?


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Re: Is Entheogen Popularity On The Rise? [Re: psilyhunter]
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lateralus: that is not true at all. i know some cops and they are not bad. the main point of the cop is to make sure things stay safe right? well if a good cop sees someone all stoned they should know that they are not going to hurt anybody and leave them alone. I know a few cops like this and they are good cops. probably becuase at one point in time (70's) they did drugs as well. but i agree with the point that they have to use backward logic. but they have to follow orders right? and so do you if you have a job. you cant not do what your boss tells you to do otherwise you will get fired.

I also agree with the BS that people do to justify the drugs. Most drug users will only look for information to prove that the drugs that they are doing will make them smarter, or that they are not bad for them and they block out all the information that says the drug is bad. well, drugs are good and bad. i hate it when people come up to me and start talking about a drug when they dont even know the bad things about it too. whenever you choose to do a drug you must ask yourself, "for me, do the pros outweigh the cons?"

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Re: Is Entheogen Popularity On The Rise? [Re: Strumpling]
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I think nicotine is one of the worst drugs because its more addictive then heroine (its been proven) and ciggs has way more chemicals than weed like rat poison and stuff thats in poop like on the commercials,ciggs have like a thousand chemicals and weed has around 420 chemicals which are naturally made not lab made


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Re: Is Entheogen Popularity On The Rise? [Re: showcivic17]
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Sounds like someone's been seeing alot of tobacco propaganda commercials. ^^ you need to realize that "public safety announcements" like those about tabacco are bias, they are trying to sway your mind in their favor, so of course they are going to use the most convincing argument they can to do so.
You have no idea what your pot is...unless your growing it. It very well, even probably has "man made chemicals" in it, from the ferts the greedy grower is using.

"rat poison" you mean arsenic? Its not ratpoison, its just one of the ingredients... And saying your smoking rat poison is much more likely to make someone stop and think.

Propaganda...propaganda.

Aside from that...thinking nicotine is one of the worst drugs has absolutely no relevance to this thread.


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Re: Is Entheogen Popularity On The Rise? [Re: showcivic17]
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showcivic17 said:
I think nicotine is one of the worst drugs because its more addictive then heroine (its been proven) and ciggs has way more chemicals than weed like rat poison and stuff thats in poop like on the commercials,ciggs have like a thousand chemicals and weed has around 420 chemicals which are naturally made not lab made



...Your body contains most of those things naturally anyway. Ooh, stuff that's in poop. Big deal. It's ammonia. Water's also in poop. Does that mean you're not going to drink pepsi?


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Re: Is Entheogen Popularity On The Rise? [Re: PDU]
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PDU said:
Sounds like someone's been seeing alot of tobacco propaganda commercials. ^^


I can, however, corroberate the fact that niccotine is more addictive than heroin. I know people who've kicked H habits, and most of them say they had an even harder time quitting smoking.

Of course, I don't know whether this is due to the drug itself or the social environment that supports its use...

But when it comes down to it, for me, regular cigarette use is a losing proposition. You don't get anything out of it, really, and you have to keep pumping money into an addiction that's causing you damage. It's just not worth it.

That's not to say I don't have a cigarette from time to time, and I do enjoy smoking a pipe on a rare occasion, but in either case, it's rare and deliberate.


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Re: Is Entheogen Popularity On The Rise? [Re: Sev]
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i got some of that info off of a website similar to erowid thats not against drugs or with them

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Re: Is Entheogen Popularity On The Rise? [Re: showcivic17]
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i think it was totse.com i cant remember i"ll go check it out now

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Re: Is Entheogen Popularity On The Rise? [Re: Jackal]
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The reason the government wants to keep drugs illegal is because they can control us better if we are only in ONE state of consciousness. The government does not want us to use mind expanding substances because they don't want us to see the TRUTH in the world. If drugs were legal, we can be in whatever state of consciousness we wanted and figure out things about life and the planet and universe and about the government itself. The only time we get to go on the other side of consciousness LEGALLY is during dreaming when the brain releases DMT, or meditation or something. I believe that dreams are a separate reality (on various, multiple levels) and that the waking state of consciousness is all just a recurrent dream that keeps repeating itself every morning when you "wake up."

There are also rises in people interested in such fields as noetic science and metaphysics, and also the research done specifically in those fields.

Albert Hoffman already proved in his book, LSD My Problem Child (BTW, an EXCELLENT book for anyone interested in hallucinogens & the mind in general) that psychedelics can be used for therapeutic purposes SUCCESSFULLY. In Richard Strassman's book, DMT The Spirit Molecule, he explains that psychedelics lost their reputation as therapeutic enhancers once LSD got loose into the streets and people were having bad trips and the government had to step in and criminalize LSD. All psychedelics became very very difficult to obtain for research purposes, so pretty much all studies on therapeutic uses of psychedelics ceased at that time, at least in the USA. This was when psychedelics got the bad reputation.

The idea of using substances for entheogenic purposes is not "hippy shit" and it's not anything new. I mean, cultures have been using entheogens for THOUSANDS of years in order to see the messages of the gods and to gain new insights or foretell the future and stuff like that. I think that this history of entheogenic use is important for people to understand because it can help bring the movement forward if they can see that maybe they can take entheogens in order to really SEE the message that "god" wants them to learn.

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Re: Is Entheogen Popularity On The Rise? [Re: occollegeboi]
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way to bump a 7 year old thread


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Re: Is Entheogen Popularity On The Rise? [Re: occollegeboi]
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occollegeboi said:
The reason the government wants to keep drugs illegal is because they can control us better if we are only in ONE state of consciousness. The government does not want us to use mind expanding substances because they don't want us to see the TRUTH in the world. If drugs were legal, we can be in whatever state of consciousness we wanted and figure out things about life and the planet and universe and about the government itself. The only time we get to go on the other side of consciousness LEGALLY is during dreaming when the brain releases DMT, or meditation or something. I believe that dreams are a separate reality (on various, multiple levels) and that the waking state of consciousness is all just a recurrent dream that keeps repeating itself every morning when you "wake up."


I agree, while there are many states of consciousness, the only one that is acceptable in todays world is the state of consciousness that focuses on the production and consumption of material goods. All other states of mind are discouraged and even criminalized.

But this doesn't just apply to drugs. These states are discouraged right from the get go by the conformity factories commonly know as schools. A child may look at spilled milk on the table and watch the infinite artistic patterns swirling but the teacher will say "CLEAN UP THAT MILK AND DO YOUR MATHS". Or a child may gaze out the window and watch a bird fly past, thinking about the beauty of nature when suddenly the teacher tells them to "STOP DAYDREAMING AND PAY ATTENTION".

Indeed the biggest lie schools teach children is that life is about fear. Children are taught to fear failure, fear their teachers and fear one another. A child is taught that "a good deed never goes unpunished" and that it is essential to cut the heads of others to make yourself taller.

By the time adults are created their world views a stained deeply by the school system. So much so that many of these people are unable to ever readjust their minds to seeing the world any other way.

Psychedelics simply force someone to look at the world another way and for many adults this is a reminder that life isn't all about running from fear. That's why the "powers" of the world fear psychedelics, because of their power to open people's eyes.

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