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Re: Is Entheogen Popularity On The Rise? [Re: Strumpling]
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Re: Is Entheogen Popularity On The Rise? [Re: Strumpling]
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mckenna spoke at very renowned private high school in ohio a few years ago and really enlightened many students/faculty who held many preconceived notions concerning psychadelics. indeed, we need more minds untiting to push for legalization or else it will never happen. middle america needs to be convinced before the government will ever consider the idea...


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Re: Is Entheogen Popularity On The Rise? [Re: dpc2424]
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that guy sounded like a retarded crackhead hopefully we'll have someone more intelligent to replace him like a politician or wood cutter.

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Re: Is Entheogen Popularity On The Rise? [Re: dilatedcreature]
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Yeah...while i respect mckenna, He was WAY too out there for most people, especially the "unenlightened" or those who hadnt had a psychedelic experience. Dilated is right, we need people that the public can relate too and doesnt seem like a crazy freak fucked in the head by drug abuse...Think johnny depp..we need more like him.

It seems like most of the famous psychedelic guru's so to say..Mckenna, leary, ram das, hunter s thompson..etc. Theyre all a bit too weird to be taken seriously by "normals" the brainwashed people.


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Re: Is Entheogen Popularity On The Rise? [Re: PDU]
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I see what you're saying but I don't think anybody is willing to do the type of work that these guys did unless they're a bit twisted


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Re: Is Entheogen Popularity On The Rise? [Re: PDU]
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I think there's been a pretty massive increase in the use of magic mushrooms in the UK, simply because over the last year or two it's been possible to buy mycelium cakes and grow large quantities of your own within 2 weeks - no messing around with syringes and spores.


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Re: Is Entheogen Popularity On The Rise? [Re: Strumpling]
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I agree with you. They're just not exactly the best examples to promote drugs, because they are seen as so changed by drugs. Its too bad...But ive heard of a few actors endorsing tripping, the odd comedian, etc...Even doctors, so it seems like prominent people who can gain a respectable following are starting to spread the truth and more and more people will be aware of psychedelics and there effects, and seeking them out.

I cant really see the US government ever turning back on the drug war, theyve spread out WAY too much misinformation for the last 60 or so years, if people found out that everything they know pretaining to drugs is wrong...they might start questioning the authority, and that just wouldnt be good for the government. But thats beside the point.


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Re: Is Entheogen Popularity On The Rise? [Re: PDU]
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Things will change. For thousands of years drugs were legal, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that the last 70 years is just an short-term abberation.


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Re: Is Entheogen Popularity On The Rise? [Re: Strumpling]
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Strumpling said:
I see what you're saying but I don't think anybody is willing to do the type of work that these guys did unless they're a bit twisted


Ya, the closest we've had to a "credible" guru is Bill Hicks.


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Re: Is Entheogen Popularity On The Rise? [Re: Xlea321]
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That's one thing that always amazes me. How thousands of years of opinions about drugs can be changed in a matter on a few decades with propaganda. I'm guessing most "common folk" have no idea that opium dens once scattered this country and high class people from every where were getting opiated. I think the main problem drug legalization faces is the masses of people who will believe any bullshit spewed forth by their precious America.


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Re: Is Entheogen Popularity On The Rise? [Re: Cherk]
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what I wonder is, why did the US start this goddamn war? they really have nothing to gain.

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Re: Is Entheogen Popularity On The Rise? [Re: Faaip_De_Oiad]
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Entheogens make you think. Anything that makes individuals think is deemed a threat by those in power.


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Re: Is Entheogen Popularity On The Rise? [Re: Cherk]
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Good point. You could buy heroin over the counter 100 years ago, people used it as they would use aspirin today. Was there devastation and misery in the streets? Were 10 year old selling their bodies for their next hit? Of course not. What good has 80 years of prohibition done?

In 1968 when heroin could be legally prescribed by doctors in the UK there were 500 heroin addicts in the country, after 35 years of prohibition there are 500,000.

Legalisation of every drug is the only sane choice.


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Re: Is Entheogen Popularity On The Rise? [Re: Strumpling]
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I don't think Entheogen use , true entheogen use , is on the rise I think right now there are just more people that are not serious about what these plants are about, remember Entheogen means "'becoming divine within"

En = Within, Inner
Theo = Divine, God
Gen = Becoming, Creating

Entheogens are not for video games ,or even movies in my opinion they're to connect with the "whole" and even if its a trip to heal, or just have fun their are better way to have fun than wasting a powerful shroom experience, go seeking , you will find something!

Edited by Psilocybeingzz (05/23/07 01:03 PM)

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Re: Is Entheogen Popularity On The Rise? [Re: Faaip_De_Oiad]
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Faaip_De_Oiad said:
what I wonder is, why did the US start this goddamn war? they really have nothing to gain. 


Because drugs are EVIL.  Because having fun is EVIL.  Because questioning authority and the world around you is EVIL.

You have to remember that for the most part, America started out with very puritan roots -- these're people who think dancing is evil.  Not the founders of the country, of course -- they were all properly normal freaks, adulterers, deists, atheists, beer-drinkers and pot-smokers.  :wink:  But the common masses aren't like that.  Remember, this is the country that outlawed -alcohol- for a time, the single most common and socially acceptable drug ever.


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Re: Is Entheogen Popularity On The Rise? [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
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Psilocybeingzz said:
I dont think Entheogen use , true entheogen use , is on the rise < I think right now there are just more people that are unserious about what these plants are about, remember Entheogen means "'becoming divine within"


I think it depends. Without the internet, I would have never have known about the powers of entheogens and all the different uses, culture, effects, heath dangers/benefits, availability. Because of this, I, and I'm sure many others, are able to use them to grow in many ways. Having access to this information enables me to undo all the drug misinformation that has been drilled into me. Without it, I'd probably feel guilty for doing something that is a natural part of exploring life. In that sense, I?m someone who would have never used entheogens. To me, the internet is like a Leary, Hicks, McKenna, etc?

There are also a lot of people who are just looking to "get fucked up". I can?t really judge it, but of course that?s not using entheogens respectfully. At least they?ll get information to keep themselves safe. And just maybe, that kid who is taking MDMA to ?roll fucking ballz? will feel a connection to others and become interested in how to achieve that naturally. I certainly see a rise in people who are educated about this stuff, but I still think there is a long way to go.


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Re: Is Entheogen Popularity On The Rise? [Re: Twirling]
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I was reading on MAPS about the WestMinister Hospital which turned leary and many many others ON with Sandoz Acid until 1976 (i think) right here in BC. The main dude over at MAPS is trying to get the files released to the public to show LSD's effects on addiction/depression and its psychological benefits...Basically he wants to prove that there are very valid medical reasons to use LSD in a clinical setting.

(i know lsd isnt an entheogen) but once people realize that substances such as LSD are condoned or at least realized as a beneficial substance opinions about entheogens and all sorts of things will start changing. People will want to naturally change their negative mindsets through natural alleys rather than through powerful mindadultering drugs such as prozac. Or cure addictions rather than takign a dialy dose of methadone...

The comparison needs to be made, that certain perscription drugs are much more powerful mind altering drugs than entheogens, and that entheogens are the lesser evil to the two.

Someone said earlier about the rise in herbal suplement use and herbal healing...Entheogen "relief" is surly a next step.


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Re: Is Entheogen Popularity On The Rise? [Re: dilatedcreature]
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dilatedcreature said:
[terence mckenna] sounded like a retarded crackhead hopefully we'll have someone more intelligent to replace him like a politician or wood cutter. 



I very strongly disagree with that statement. :mad2:


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Re: Is Entheogen Popularity On The Rise? [Re: Noviseer]
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Noviseer said:
dilatedcreature said:
[terence mckenna] sounded like a retarded crackhead hopefully we'll have someone more intelligent to replace him like a politician or wood cutter. 


Disagree all you want, terrence was smart, and fucking quacky. If you tried to get a non psychedelic user to try and even comprehend half of what he had to say they would laugh at you and use him as an example proving that drugs make you crazy!

Terrence was WAY too out there to be

I very strongly disagree with that statement. :mad2: 


Disagree all you want, terrence was smart, and fucking quacky. If you tried to get a non psychedelic user to try and even comprehend half of what he had to say they would laugh at you and use him as an example proving that drugs make you crazy!

Terrence was WAY too out there to be campaigning for psychedelics.

Whoever said Bill Hicks is the best psychedelic guru (think psychedelic endorser) is right. At least Bill could be seen as normal, and the rest of the world could relate to him and what he had to say.

Try explaining Alien love to a normal person, you'll get laughed at...just like Mckenna. 


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Re: Is Entheogen Popularity On The Rise? [Re: Noviseer]
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I think you mistake what he means by that Noviseer, what I think he meant was that people didn't respect him as a person because he seemed too odd, and was "just another junkie" to the general public, so no one listened to him, what we need is someone already respected to get up and speak about the benefits of drugs... what we need people, is:



CHARLTON HESTON!!!!!!!

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