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Re: Responcible and recreational Entheogen users? [Re: PDU]
#1715557 - 07/14/03 06:39 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fuck the DEA Fuck the government Fuck humans
sorry. the shit that is going on in the world pisses me off a lot sometimes. One of those times is now. I dont want to forget like most people would want to do over a bottle of JD. I want to remember and do something about it. Isnt in the bill of rights to be able to own a weapon? 2nd amendment? The reason why that is there is so if the government becomes tyrannical and oppressive the people have a fighting chance of taking it down. Personally I believe that the government should be taken down. But then you have to look at who the government is. The government is just international corperations trying to achieve globalization and stealing money and gettting away with it. The government is just a medium between the people and the corperations and decisions between countries. So many people are blinded by media and all sorts of shit. Everyone is brainwashed into believing the government is good and everything they do is good. They are controlled by the TV. They hear some person say something on the TV and they believe it. They will see how some celebrity ont he TV and then dress like them and think that they are cool just because MTV says they are. But who controls the media...the government...thats who. The government just wants everybody to be happy in their houses and go to work everyday and do their bit in society and come back to their house and do nothing. They want you to be a consumer so they can steal your money and use it to drop bombs on countries that will not comply with them. Where are the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? Wasnt that the reason for the war in the first place? Or was it the oil that the US could steal after they have taken over Iraq and globalized it with McDonalds and shopping malls? And why the fuck do they want drugs to be illegal? Whats the reasoning behind that one? (I guess that could go into a long dissucssion). I am just pissed at a lot of shit right now. Humans are just animans of this planet so why cant we live like them too? Every animal can do whatever it wants. I think the Native Indians were way more advanced that we were. They lived in small communities where practically everybody got along and they just lived peacefully...except when one tribe was on the other tribes land and then there were fights sometimes. I would like to live as an Indian back in the day before white men came along to this beautiful country. Whatever...I think I will stop ranting now. I feel better now that i wrote all that down anyway. I still feel pissed. No drugs for me anytime soon.
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Re: Responcible and recreational Entheogen users? [Re: crazycanadian]
#1716664 - 07/14/03 10:42 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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crazycanadian said: Fuck the DEA Fuck the government Fuck humans
sorry. the shit that is going on in the world pisses me off a lot sometimes. One of those times is now. I dont want to forget like most people would want to do over a bottle of JD. I want to remember and do something about it. Isnt in the bill of rights to be able to own a weapon? 2nd amendment? The reason why that is there is so if the government becomes tyrannical and oppressive the people have a fighting chance of taking it down. Personally I believe that the government should be taken down. But then you have to look at who the government is. The government is just international corperations trying to achieve globalization and stealing money and gettting away with it. The government is just a medium between the people and the corperations and decisions between countries. So many people are blinded by media and all sorts of shit. Everyone is brainwashed into believing the government is good and everything they do is good. They are controlled by the TV. They hear some person say something on the TV and they believe it. They will see how some celebrity ont he TV and then dress like them and think that they are cool just because MTV says they are. But who controls the media...the government...thats who. The government just wants everybody to be happy in their houses and go to work everyday and do their bit in society and come back to their house and do nothing. They want you to be a consumer so they can steal your money and use it to drop bombs on countries that will not comply with them. Where are the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? Wasnt that the reason for the war in the first place? Or was it the oil that the US could steal after they have taken over Iraq and globalized it with McDonalds and shopping malls? And why the fuck do they want drugs to be illegal? Whats the reasoning behind that one? (I guess that could go into a long dissucssion). I am just pissed at a lot of shit right now. Humans are just animans of this planet so why cant we live like them too? Every animal can do whatever it wants. I think the Native Indians were way more advanced that we were. They lived in small communities where practically everybody got along and they just lived peacefully...except when one tribe was on the other tribes land and then there were fights sometimes. I would like to live as an Indian back in the day before white men came along to this beautiful country. Whatever...I think I will stop ranting now. I feel better now that i wrote all that down anyway. I still feel pissed. No drugs for me anytime soon.
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Sadly, we all know. Its a harsh realization that comes with growing up a drug user in the information age. Ive recently lost my hope... I was constantly focused on essentially martyring myself for the cause, i ceased all social contact, i ceased anything normal, i ceased living essentially...i completely rejected :the system" and everyone who was a part of it. It was a real bummer. I decided to be happy, and that means not dwelling on every single problem in the world and putting it solely on yourself to make it a point that you disagree with and want change. Start a geurilla revoltion...id love to see it. Armed citizens with idea's will quickly be labeled as "extremeist militia's" and will be taken out very quickly, without making a dent. Your story, your nobility wouldnt even make it to the press... you would be a "terrorist". The United State's has started a world order which is effectively keeps everywhere else dependant upon them for entertainment, economy, influence, protection, etc. No matter how many people you got, the US will not be brought down, an international allience would have to be made in agreement to either conquer the US militarily (Once again...not going to happen) or an international allience with all the major trade partners would need to cut off the US from water, fuel, lumber, mined good's, and essentially from economy to cause the government to crash where a revolutionary new government could be put in place. Nothing short of a revolution will make change now, and a revolution isnt going to happen because we (the ones who care enough to risk outselves) are outnumbered probably a 1000 to one at least, and the US has such supremeacy in super power.
Bleak...i know. Ive lost hope, ive given up, im making the best out of my life as i can right now...I think the best way to truly make effective change is to gain influence within your community (think power) or be in politics yourself....a right wing liberal...who wasnt an "extremeist". Im sorry man....were fucked.
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Re: Responcible and recreational Entheogen users? [Re: PDU]
#1717717 - 07/15/03 08:24 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well I dont think it is impossible to take down the US government. I think it could happen if enought people were in on it. Like you said, there would have to be an international alliance. I know a lot of people in the world that do not like the US. The USA is just an empire and all empires eventually fall because they get to big and struggle from internal problems. I think that is starting to happen now. I think the downfall will be much like the Roman Empire. Where everyone just got so lazy and had big orgy's all the time and ate so much food. The infastructure will eventually fail because one government cannot control millions of people like in the US. This was the basic thinking when they made the constitution. I think that the US would be much better if the federal government were much smaller and State governments were more powerful. Then the US would be a lot like Europe I think. I dont really want to try and solve the problem because I just dont care enough to do so. I will just sit back and let things fall apart. Meanwhile I will be in the Great White North tipping back a few cold ones and watching cities collapse on the television. Haha. That would be great. Although I dont like to see people getting killed. Thats not cool. But I would like to see the government fall to their knees and get shot in the head like they deserve.
Anyway. To change the subject...I cant think of anything to saw right now. I am at work and I am bored because they give me nothing to do. I am drinking mountain dew.
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Re: Responcible and recreational Entheogen users? [Re: PDU]
#1721185 - 07/16/03 10:12 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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I guess its definately different in the states, but i think people OD'ing on super pure heroin
Just as a point of clarification ... people don't OD on super-pure heroin because it's super-pure. They OD because they're used to getting their H cut all to shit with god knows what, and then dose the pure stuff -- which they don't know is pure -- at the same rate they'd dose the crap they usually get. Because of this, they OD. If all heroin was pure, or it was all cut consistantly, ODs would happen a lot less frequently.
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Re: Responcible and recreational Entheogen users? [Re: PDU]
#1721221 - 07/16/03 10:28 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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PDU said: Start a geurilla revoltion...id love to see it. Armed citizens with idea's will quickly be labeled as "extremeist militia's" and will be taken out very quickly, without making a dent. Your story, your nobility wouldnt even make it to the press... you would be a "terrorist". (...) Im sorry man....were fucked.
I agree with a lot of your post -- I've gone through a similar period of depression, hopelessness, and apathy. It's wrong, though. Yes, small groups of radicals will always be taken out. What's required for an actual (bloody, violent, quick) revolution in the US is some kind of massive polarization of the populace -- a final straw that breaks the back. I don't know if this can happen in this country, though, given the massive complacency that most Americans seem to hold in regard to the government and its doings. However ... people are getting fed up, and large masses of people are getting unhappy, desirous of change. Economically, our society is becoming even more pyramidal, with more wealth being concentrated in the top and less in the masses. This is a classic set-up for revolution. I don't think economic forces alone will touch one off, though. What's required is active memetic warfare against the current system, especially if we wish to undergo radical political change with a minimum of bloodshed and damage to the infrastructure. I don't know how to do this, but I know it's required. Unfortunately, this is hard -- it requires talent, it requires the vehicles of the memes to be sensible and persuasive, and it requires that the people it infects spread it to really work. People need to be, well, evangelized about their rights and the things that are wrong with this country. ...People need to be more educated, too, and taught how to think. Unfortunately, with the quality of our schools only declining, we're becoming, as a mass, more and more sheep-like. "It's wrong because it's against the law" is the best example of this unthinkingness. Blah. Anyway. Things have to change. Things will change, eventually. It's up to us to try and make them change sooner.
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Re: Responcible and recreational Entheogen users? [Re: Sev]
#1721267 - 07/16/03 10:50 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think they should make all drugs legal. But use like a prescription to get them. That way you have insurance to pay for them and are only limited to a small ammount so addiction would be less likely. These are my thoughts I am probably wrong.
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Re: Responcible and recreational Entheogen users? [Re: Iseesmurfs420]
#1721452 - 07/16/03 12:02 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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I dont think there will ever be a "straw that breaks the camels back." the government does such a good job brainwashing the american people that they will believe just about anything. look at the war for fuck's sake. the government does the same thing every time. they scare the people and then the people will go with whatever the solution is...even if it is made up. That way the people are happy and care free. but the only way is to have a bloody revolt, i agree with that one at this point.
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Re: Responcible and recreational Entheogen users? [Re: Sev]
#1721879 - 07/16/03 02:42 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Start a geurilla revoltion...id love to see it. Armed citizens with idea's will quickly be labeled as "extremeist militia's" and will be taken out very quickly, without making a dent. Your story, your nobility wouldnt even make it to the press... you would be a "terrorist". (...) Im sorry man....were fucked.
I agree with a lot of your post -- I've gone through a similar period of depression, hopelessness, and apathy. It's wrong, though.
Yes, small groups of radicals will always be taken out. What's required for an actual (bloody, violent, quick) revolution in the US is some kind of massive polarization of the populace -- a final straw that breaks the back. I don't know if this can happen in this country, though, given the massive complacency that most Americans seem to hold in regard to the government and its doings. However ... people are getting fed up, and large masses of people are getting unhappy, desirous of change.
Economically, our society is becoming even more pyramidal, with more wealth being concentrated in the top and less in the masses. This is a classic set-up for revolution. I don't think economic forces alone will touch one off, though.
What's required is active memetic warfare against the current system, especially if we wish to undergo radical political change with a minimum of bloodshed and damage to the infrastructure. I don't know how to do this, but I know it's required. Unfortunately, this is hard -- it requires talent, it requires the vehicles of the memes to be sensible and persuasive, and it requires that the people it infects spread it to really work. People need to be, well, evangelized about their rights and the things that are wrong with this country.
...People need to be more educated, too, and taught how to think. Unfortunately, with the quality of our schools only declining, we're becoming, as a mass, more and more sheep-like. "It's wrong because it's against the law" is the best example of this unthinkingness.
Blah. Anyway. Things have to change. Things will change, eventually. It's up to us to try and make them change sooner.
The one thing that we need to win is motivation (basically what you said) However, the people pissed off at where their taxes are going, or because their grower got busted, or their childrens teachers were indoctrinating their children with DARE, or even the crack dealer in the ghetto getting hassled by the cops...They all have TOO good of lives as it is. I feel most people wouldnt have enough Push to actually act simply because living and being a little dissatisfied with your government, yet still enjoying the luxeries in life is much better than not knowing if you or your family is going to die tommorow. I wonder what the percentage of military/police/controllers is compared with angry people. We do need this revolution certainly (anyone seriously into this should check out the guerillanews.com forums) However...I think i have a more plausible plan...but hey, im still a "radical terrorist" An extensive advertising compaign needs to be done explaining why the government need's to be taken out, all those angry rednecks and the middle aged ex lawyer paying too much taxes who wants to smoke a joint...everyone that wants change needs to hold demonstrations, peaceful protests, go door to door handing out fliers, and logically explaining their stance to those willing to listen, TV (where possible) college radio stations, News papers, online...we need to let people know what we're so pissed off about in an understanding fashion. THEN we give them the solution, Stop paying your taxes. Ive read that 4% of tax payers is all thats needed to disrupt the government into submission, overthrown my default basically....4% of the american population cant be THAT many to reach.
Overall, people need to be willing to make sacrifice, and i dont see the US getting bad enough for people to sacrifice their own greedy lifestyle's, or lives. :s
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Re: Responcible and recreational Entheogen users? [Re: PDU]
#1722355 - 07/16/03 05:31 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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if 4% of people stopped paying taxes would be enough for the government to be taken down i think that is pathetic. that data cannot be accurate. maybe it is and i am wrong. i would like to see where you got that figure. Lets say there are 300 million people in the US. 4% would be 12 million people. that is a lot of people and i think the government would need more people than that to be overrun. Maybe they would do something about it but that is about it. Plus 12 million people woiuld have to do it all at the same time. otherwise they would just throw you in jail. I do agree with handing out flyers and such. then having local meetings. I mean all we would have to do is what the founders of this country did but on a larger scale probably. In this day and age i font know if that would be easier or harder. certainly commonication would be easier. but the government is very large and very powerful and they could shut you down very quickly. so i just dont know
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Re: Responcible and recreational Entheogen users? [Re: crazycanadian]
#1722383 - 07/16/03 05:42 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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exactly..unless you can convince a huge number of people underground, without being detected it probably wont happen. Hahah..maybe terrorism is the answer. The FBI will now track me. HAHHAHHA.
The 4% thing i got from a link from the dude who runs the community my website is on along time ago...i dunno if its right or not, but you could quickly find out on guerillanews im sure.
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Re: Responcible and recreational Entheogen users? [Re: crazycanadian]
#1722629 - 07/16/03 06:45 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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I disagree, on the basis that "getting fucked up" may be equivalent to "expanding your consciousness." Both approaches have the same goal in mind: to alter one's consciousness. The approaches just have a different ideology behind them. While the ideology associated with "expanding consciousness" usually involves more respect and caution for psychedelic drugs, I don't think that this means that the users with the "I want to get fucked up" approach have to be eliminated. I think that trying to supress the "I want to get fucked up" approach is a War on Drugs in itself.
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Re: Responcible and recreational Entheogen users? [Re: Phencyclidine]
#1724298 - 07/17/03 08:53 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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well i think that the approach of "getting fucked up" is just a way of trying to be cool most of the time. i dont think many people think they are cool and radical and rebellious for trying to achieve a different conciousness. your statement can be somewhat true though. but i think that when people want to get fucked up it is ego driven and when people want to achieve different conciouesness it is not. those are just my thoughts. maybe you are right...drug users attacking drug users. kind if like a civil war while trying to have unity to fight a common goal. maybe we should just not even care and unite anyway becase i dont think there will be any way to get rid of that type of attitude. even with drugs being legal. look at alcohol for example. there are responcible drinkers and then there are college students and young people who just want to get drunk...essensially "getting fucked up"
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Re: Responcible and recreational Entheogen users? [Re: crazycanadian]
#1740775 - 07/23/03 10:16 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Why does legalisation have to come from revolution? From what I've read of history reviolution tends to do nothing but replace one inadequate system with another.
What needs to happen is for democracy to start working. As the public become mroe aware of the true nature of drugs and addiction, when they begin to realise that most of the social problems associated with drugs are not casued by drugs but caused by the prohibition of drugs, they will stop listening to the government, and government will have to change in line with public feeling.
This isn't going to happen over night, but the internet has already sped the process up massively. People need to start campaigning for a change in the law, they need to educate the masses, they need to use the system to change the system.
Who needs revolution when the people rule themselves?
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Re: Responcible and recreational Entheogen users? [Re: tooky]
#1741636 - 07/23/03 03:51 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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the people are not in control of themselves. they just think they are. they are controlled by the media and shit. sometimes revolution is the only way to get things done. look at how this country was formed. i think it would be retarded to make a revolution becuause what would you revolt againt? best way is to forcefully let the government change the laws. i dont understand people who did drugs when they were younger and then when they grow up and have kids they are so against it. i think it is because they let themselves get soft and they give into what the government wants you to believe about drugs. even weed.
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Re: Responcible and recreational Entheogen users? [Re: crazycanadian]
#1741655 - 07/23/03 04:00 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, i think democracy truly working is as likely as communism truly working.
I mean...its just not going to work for everyone, its going to work for the majority, and we, the drug campaigners arnt the majority.
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Re: Responcible and recreational Entheogen users? [Re: PDU]
#1743965 - 07/24/03 07:56 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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You're right we aren't the majority, but attitudes are changing. Perhaps in the USA they are changing more slowly than elsewhere, but they are changing.
The drug campaigners have to continue the fight against the misinformation spread by the governments. Drug use is becoming more and more widespread in the face of the US government's war on drugs. The public need people, like the people in this forum, to show them how ineffectual the war on drugs is, to show them that battliong against drugs won't fix the problems they see, because those problems are caused by the war on drugs.
Don't try to fight against the war on drugs, spend your energy discrediting it. Run for office as a single policy candidate, perhaps as pro-marijuana candidate. Write letters to your representatives. Its not illegal to talk about drugs, so start talking!
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Re: Responcible and recreational Entheogen users? [Re: tooky]
#1744261 - 07/24/03 10:08 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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tooky said: You're right we aren't the majority, but attitudes are changing. Perhaps in the USA they are changing more slowly than elsewhere, but they are changing.
The drug campaigners have to continue the fight against the misinformation spread by the governments. Drug use is becoming more and more widespread in the face of the US government's war on drugs. The public need people, like the people in this forum, to show them how ineffectual the war on drugs is, to show them that battliong against drugs won't fix the problems they see, because those problems are caused by the war on drugs.
Don't try to fight against the war on drugs, spend your energy discrediting it. Run for office as a single policy candidate, perhaps as pro-marijuana candidate. Write letters to your representatives. Its not illegal to talk about drugs, so start talking!
I absolutely agree with your last paragraph...i talk...alot, and change those perspectives who i can. However, i dont think a bunch of shroomers (or anyone else) is going to make the US fed's realize that "how ineffectual the war on drugs is, to show them that battliong against drugs won't fix the problems they see". Why? Because they arrest cancer patients for taking medicine! Its a war on drugs more so than on the problem's they cause.
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Re: Responcible and recreational Entheogen users? [Re: PDU]
#1744271 - 07/24/03 10:13 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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well they think their motivation for getting rid of drugs is because of all the people that make it bad. the only reason why people kill and stuff is because it is illegal. it is a circle of doom
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Re: Responcible and recreational Entheogen users? [Re: crazycanadian]
#1744383 - 07/24/03 11:00 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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"the only reason why people kill and stuff is because it is illegal"
Thats obviously a false, not well thought out statement that most drug users would be more than willing to accept.
People Kill because Of the money involved, there will still be people robbing, mugging, and screwing whoever if drug's are involved. As bill hicks says "drugs are pretty important to a drug addict" a person hooked on drug's, or even just looking for the easy way are still going to commit crime to get drug's. If theres a supply, the demand(ers) will find a way to get their drug's no matter what.
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Re: Responcible and recreational Entheogen users? [Re: PDU]
#1745029 - 07/24/03 02:59 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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PDU said: People Kill because Of the money involved, there will still be people robbing, mugging, and screwing whoever if drug's are involved. As bill hicks says "drugs are pretty important to a drug addict" a person hooked on drug's, or even just looking for the easy way are still going to commit crime to get drug's. If theres a supply, the demand(ers) will find a way to get their drug's no matter what.
You're right, there will always be a few uneducated idiots who will kill/cheat/steal to get their drugs. Correct me if Im wrong, but you appear to think that the numbers of these people will increase. I don't believe it because: 1 there will always be a core percentage of uneducated and/or violent people who will become addicted to the point of violence/theft (with almost ANY activity or lifestyle, not just drug users). 2 There is no data to indicate that the number of these people would increase, as a matter of fact, in places where certain drugs have already been legalized statistics indicate quite the contrary (ex: Amsterdam/marijuana: the number of recreational users INCREASED because of legalization and the numbers of addicts DECREASED). 3 People who would become violent and addicted to drugs ALREADY ARE! Drugs arent hard to get and anyone with these propensities is going to be doing these violent things regardless of legal status. I think this is one of the reasons drugs dont become legalized. People have been made to believe the falsehood of an epidemic of violence and addiction, when in fact its the farthest thing from the truth. This is a scare tactic people need to quit buying into. Edit:Ack, I need to quit replying to this post, Ive come to the point where Im repeating myself. No hard feelings PDU I know you would like to see drugs legal as well.
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