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Fear and Psyche
    #1624864 - 06/10/03 11:13 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

psychic hit


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Re: Hostile environment [Re: castaway]
    #1625024 - 06/10/03 11:57 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Hostile environment
#1624728 - 06/10/03 07:37 PM Edit Reply Quote



I was going to post this in 'mushroom hunting' but couldn't for some reason.
So I'm going to post here:

4 days rain, upper 80's, show me the sillys in n. fla

Plenty shrooms in woods but none in cowfields. I guess I'm twerly huh
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A little help for the Newbies could be good for your Karma Grav;
But don't let me twist your arm...
Free Will remember



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Re: Hostile environment [Re: castaway]
    #1625056 - 06/11/03 12:14 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for opening the appropriate forum Grav


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Re: Hostile environment [Re: castaway]
    #1625065 - 06/11/03 12:17 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

You're the quiet but deadly type aren't you


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Re: Hostile environment [Re: castaway]
    #1625185 - 06/11/03 12:47 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

hi im supermarket


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Re: Hostile environment [Re: tekramrepus]
    #1625207 - 06/11/03 12:52 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Hello;
Are your nightmares for real?


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Re: Hostile environment [Re: castaway]
    #1625242 - 06/11/03 12:59 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

or fabricated
:smile:

(I guess I'd better add something like "Karma"
for the board-police)


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Re: Hostile environment [Re: castaway]
    #1625254 - 06/11/03 01:01 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

no man, - they are for real.

I dont know what to do - I guess just let them take their course, they know whats best for me!


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Re: Hostile environment [Re: tekramrepus]
    #1625271 - 06/11/03 01:05 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Enthoegens open the psyche to unwanted influences sometimes.
A Shaman worth his salt should fix you right up


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Re: Hostile environment [Re: castaway]
    #1625370 - 06/11/03 01:47 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

how do I contact a shaman or know his validity?


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Re: Hostile environment [Re: castaway]
    #1625408 - 06/11/03 02:03 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

It's fear that opens the psyche to unwanted influences...


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Re: Hostile environment [Re: Adamist]
    #1625778 - 06/11/03 07:57 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Sorry about the confusion, Castaway

I moved your thread to Mushroom Hunting, as it was quite off-topic here.

It was my first move and informing you about it totally slipped my mind :smile:


umm...  Is a discussion unfolding here?


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Re: umm... Is a discussion unfolding here? [Re: Grav]
    #1625797 - 06/11/03 08:12 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Maybe;

I agree that fear opens the psyche to unwanted influences...

I think fear is a derivative of ego...Or is ego a derivative of fear...

Artists, doctors and scietists have excelled in their fields by accessing ego-less states thru drugs...Therefore the ego is not necessary for creativity and could even hamper it.

(I guess I should describe what 'ego' means to me:

accusatory, flippancy- inappropriate levity
irresponsibility- unreliable or untrustworthy
Judgments based on Fear, Vanity, Jealousy, Greed, Hate, Resentment. Distrust and that our experiences are unjustified.
Gloating(express great pleasure or self-satisfaction)
Bombastic(big without meaning)
Arrogance(overbearing self-worth or self-importance.superiority),
Pomposity(excessive self-esteem or exaggerated dignity; pretentious)
Egotistic ( selfish, self-centered, conceited, boastful)
Disagreeable(Not to one's liking; unpleasant or offensive.Having a quarrelsome, bad-tempered manner)
- presumptuous - spiteful - haughty - materialistic. )

...If neither fear nor ego (as defined above) is desirable, then why do we have them?



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Re: umm... Is a discussion unfolding here? [Re: castaway]
    #1625801 - 06/11/03 08:16 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Castaway, could you please give me an alternate title for this thread? :smile:


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Re: squirming egotism [Re: Grav]
    #1625813 - 06/11/03 08:25 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

LOL!

How about 'fear and the psyche'



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Re: umm... Is a discussion unfolding here? [Re: castaway]
    #1626405 - 06/11/03 03:15 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I like your definition of ego...

Quote:

...If neither fear nor ego (as defined above) is desirable, then why do we have them?



For survival, I would think.


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Re: umm... Is a discussion unfolding here? [Re: Adamist]
    #1626658 - 06/11/03 05:10 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Then fear is necessary to exist as an ego;
And ego is necessary to exist as an individual;
Therfore death is a loss of individuality?


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Re: umm... Is a discussion unfolding here? [Re: castaway]
    #1626854 - 06/11/03 06:24 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Maybe the ego is only necessary for individuality in this reality... We may not need that defense in the next one.


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Re: umm... Is a discussion unfolding here? [Re: Grav]
    #1627000 - 06/11/03 07:32 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Consider the act of walking on hot coals...
My guess is we attain egolessness, a loss of the individuality which encompasses fear...and maybe pain also.

So both pain and fear could be ingredients of the ego.

The definition of 'Deity' is 'personification of a force',
and we can personify the 'Highest Spiritual source'
into a farther-figure complete with gender; But underneath all the personifications of individual interpretations the 'Highest Spiritual Source' remains the same. Therefore the Christian God is the same as the Moslem, the Jewish and the Buddhist etc etc.

Meditation as a means of attaining egolessness; A loss of seperation...
so the ego is a seperation from the 'Highest Spiritual Source'...
and we experience fear at the prospect of re-integration with that Source.

Overcoming the ego thru meditation/drugs overcomes fear/pain.

Why would we naturally fear integration with the 'Highest Spiritual Source'?
Because of loss of individuality?

Fear of death = fear of loss of individuality?

Pain = a warning that loss of individuality could be imminent?

We want to re-integrate with the 'Highest Spiritual Source'
but we're afraid to.

We fear the unknown.
The ego fears dissolution.

The ego may be necessary for survival, but what do we get out of survival that legitamizes fear? Individuality itself? The state of individuality naturally includes fear of it's loss. Autonomy includes fear. Autonomy = master of one's domain = God-like...So Gods have fear...fear of losing their individuality. Are we a threat to God (as the 'Highest Spiritual Source')? As equals we continualy plot for each others demise, looking out for #1, exclusive resolution of conflict. Love = inclusive resolution of conflict...so untill we learn how to resolve our differences without killing each other, then we will aleways remain a threat to God....and in overcoming the ego we lose the desire to kill? and therefore re-integrate with the power to overcome pain and fear...hmmm...


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Re: umm... Is a discussion unfolding here? [Re: castaway]
    #1627039 - 06/11/03 07:47 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

So you can't be an individual and at the same time be unafraid of losing that quality?

Can't an "individual" be comfortable knowing he will only be individual temporarily, and still be content being individual for the time being? (in other words, accepting the total uknown just around the corner, and being who he is anyways, not out of desperation to hold onto it, but just because it feels like the right thing to do)

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