ahmcarri said:

teefizzle said:

yes, but we are talking about a diagnosed mentally ill person here, and he's not asking about astral projection or lucid dreaming.

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exactly, im just saying that maybe he should be careful with meditating too
so what i said was dont go and tell him to meditate when you really dont know how that can effect him (let alone a schizophrenic)
i was pointing out that even with meditation, the end result could be the same(he said he wanted to see shit and lucid dreaming and astral projection are the best ways)
im saying they can both be equally dangerous

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Rewindicus said:

so your argument is that because theres not studies that show there are positive OR negative effects on schizophrenics who astral project (which anyone who is into meditation knows you dont astral project overnite it usually takes a while, months even years for some people.) that it shouldnt be done?

whereas there are LOTS AND LOTS of studies that show doing psychadelics is a BAAAAAD idea for schizophrenics.

just using your logic soley. (which in my opinion is flawed) im gonna go with the lesser bad of the 2. the one that no one has ever benefited negatively from. meditation/OBE's/Lucid dreaming. talking from a scientific standpoint.

dont throw in the spiritual angle because this isnt a spiritual issue for this guy.

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(which anyone who is into meditation knows you dont astral project overnite it usually takes a while, months even years for some people.)

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healing said:

I have schizoaffective disorder. If I smoke pot, I go crazy (psychotic and paranoid) If I take acid, I have a great time

Don't know about mushrooms yet, I hope they still work with the combination of medications I'm on.

Try it, you might have a great experience, or find out that you should never do mushrooms again. Then again, it might not work for you.

LSD shouldn't work for me because of my medications, but it does for whatever reason. Everybody's different.

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jellyfish said:

Don't do it! The risk is too great. I had a friend who had been acting a little bit differently but nothing worrying at all. He was always with us when we tripped and became more and more curious as years went by. We tripped with him on one hit of acid and that was that. No one chills at his place anymore. He covered himself in tattoos. He thinks the free masons have tapped his phone line, that there are cameras in his house, that he's being tested by the masons secretly. He thinks celebrities direct their songs towards him and claims to have discovered the meaning behind the bible. I hate the thought of it but he should be on meds. And I hate the guilt I feel as well. Psychedelics are strange in the way they open up your mind. He shouldn't have tripped, it opened up and spilled over parts of his psyche that shouldn't have been touched. Now I don't trip with anyone who hasn't previously. Unlike any other category of drugs, the psychedelic profile is very unpredictable.

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Macavity224 said:

healing said:

I have schizoaffective disorder. If I smoke pot, I go crazy (psychotic and paranoid) If I take acid, I have a great time

Don't know about mushrooms yet, I hope they still work with the combination of medications I'm on.

Try it, you might have a great experience, or find out that you should never do mushrooms again. Then again, it might not work for you.

LSD shouldn't work for me because of my medications, but it does for whatever reason. Everybody's different.

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What medications are you on, if you don't mind me asking?

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briant230 said:

Don't eat psychedelics, you have schizophrenia.  how old are you anyway?  You say that the meds your on work very well and that your completely stable.  Why the hell would you fuck with that with powerful mind altering substances?? How recklessly incompetent are you?

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