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Re: Anyone bad experience with tea being very weak? [Re: SighLowSighBeen]
    #25034787 - 03/02/18 11:39 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I've never heard of someone straight up boiling the shrooms.  You're supposed to get the water boiling (like JUST STARTED boiling) and then remove it from heat.  Then you add the shrooms, and let them steep for a while.  Some say 10 minutes is sufficient, but I let em steep for 30 to be safe.  Supposedly temperatures over 200 degress F will ruin psilocybin, though this debated.  But I am willing to bet boiling the shrooms was your issue.  A rolling boil means contacts with the sides, and the hot metal could have burned the mushroom particles in the water, completely wrecking their potency.  This is just a guess though.  I would try making tea the correct way and give it a shot, then make a conclusion.


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Re: Anyone bad experience with tea being very weak? [Re: Astark]
    #25035371 - 03/03/18 09:25 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Not boiling them is an issue. You want to get the goods into the water so you boil them...

Only noobs worried about potency Don't boil. You can deep fry shrooms in hot oil and they still work, put them on pizza in the oven still work, even putting them in a jar and pressure cooking then for two hours doesn't remove their potency.


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Re: Anyone bad experience with tea being very weak? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25035474 - 03/03/18 10:24 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Not boiling them is an issue. You want to get the goods into the water so you boil them...

Only noobs worried about potency Don't boil. You can deep fry shrooms in hot oil and they still work, put them on pizza in the oven still work, even putting them in a jar and pressure cooking then for two hours doesn't remove their potency.




And just chuck the bits away once boiled? Cos that's what I did with 5g and it did nothing at all. 0.2g microdose of the same batch yday had a definite effect and afterglow I still feel today... so odd. Think swallowing 5g will be less disgusting than a whole cup of tea from now on anyway


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Re: Anyone bad experience with tea being very weak? [Re: Broken1]
    #25035698 - 03/03/18 12:34 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Not boiling them is an issue. You want to get the goods into the water so you boil them...

Only noobs worried about potency Don't boil. You can deep fry shrooms in hot oil and they still work, put them on pizza in the oven still work, even putting them in a jar and pressure cooking then for two hours doesn't remove their potency.




And just chuck the bits away once boiled? Cos that's what I did with 5g and it did nothing at all. 0.2g microdose of the same batch yday had a definite effect and afterglow I still feel today... so odd. Think swallowing 5g will be less disgusting than a whole cup of tea from now on anyway




Strain and squeeze any moisture out of the leftover bits, then throw them away.


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Re: Anyone bad experience with tea being very weak? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25036199 - 03/03/18 04:55 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Not boiling them is an issue. You want to get the goods into the water so you boil them.....






I never boil my mushrooms when making tea and it's never been an issue for me :shrug: , my teas turn out just dandy. Boiling/cooking the mushrooms like that will result in more of a mushroom "broth" rather than a tea.

It can be done that way, but brewing the mushrooms in boiling water isn't required, the alkaloids are already pretty soluble in water as it is. I don't think there's a big difference in the solubility of the alkaloids between 180 degree water and 212 degree water.

A full on rolling boil for a short while probably won't breakdown the alkaloids much or at all....but the two times I did let my brew boil, it "cooked" the mushrooms in the water and basically made it into more like a mushroom "broth" rather than a mushroom tea, it had a much stronger/funky taste and it was a bit rough on the stomach.






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