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 Mycelium69
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 Variations in Trips with various Mushroom Strains. 
#666247 - 06/06/02 03:07 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hi everyone, this is my first post...
What id like to know is, are the trips produced by various mushroom strains different from strain to strain? Ive heard that they are, but I havent been able to find a 'list' or something similar that describes them. How to equadorians compare to amazonians, for instance? How do azurens compare to cubensis? It would be interesting to see it all laid out on one page,and would make spore selection a heck of a lot easier:) Id do it myself, but Ive only tried the EQ's that Ive grown...
Please respond!!
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 Re: Variations in Trips with various Mushroom Strains. [Re: Mycelium69]
#666482 - 06/06/02 05:59 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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I can't think of any explanation for why there would be different trips because the active ingredients psilocybin and to a small extent psilocin are still the same. However I'm relatively inexperienced when it comes to shrooms so that's pure conjecture...I'm curious to hear what other people have to say
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 Re: Variations in Trips with various Mushroom Strains. [Re: Mycelium69]
#666507 - 06/06/02 06:19 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well, don't you get a different buzz from different strains of marijuana, even though they all contain thc? Same thing.
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 Boppity604
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Re: Variations in Trips with various Mushroom Strains. [Re: 2shrewmen]
#666547 - 06/06/02 06:44 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you go to the Hawk's Eye website they give really good information for each strain they offer. Here's just an example of the strains I'm looking to cultivate...the following information is provided by and copyrighted to www.thehawkseye.com and I don't mean to speak for them but to simply give you a sample of the info they have on their site!
The Beautiful Mexi-Cub
This mushroom was originally found in Southern Mexico, from Mr. G. A very beautiful mushroom always giveing beautiful spotted caps, usually of a nice yellowish color instead of your typical cubensis golden tan color. Sometimes it even throws off some orangish colored spotted caps. It tends to grow with smaller stems and rather large caps compared to its stem. A rather fast strain, and very easy to grow. It does exceptionally well cased, and will continue to flush over and over within a week of each other. Although not a giant sized mushroom, it produces an abundance of mushrooms continually. You can usually count on a minimum of 4 really good flushes from this strain, and sometimes more. Another nice key feature about this cubensis, as that it fruits well in cooler temps of 50F, but also grows like all other cubensis at the higher temps of 75F-85F. One special characteristic about this mushrooms potency, is it doesnt seem to give the high anxiety a lot of mushrooms do when the first initial waves of euphoria come over you. Its a very smooth, clean high, with a nice heavy play on the eyes. The mexi-cub is truly a beauty to marvel at for its unique appearence, definatly gets a "best of show" award.
Mazatapec Mexican Cubensis
Another fantastic cubensis from Mexico is the strain picked around Mazatapec Mexico. For those of you into the spiritual side of mushrooms, I'm sure you will enjoy this one a lot, as I've always noticed mushrooms from Mexico tend to deliver a very powerfull spiritual journey. We've heard a lot of great feedback from ppl over time on this one haveing very beautiful visions after embracing its gift. Although you may have a tremendous spiritual or visual experience on these, you'll need a little patience. These tend to colonize a little slower them most. Count on an extra 10-14 days to your project. The little extra wait is well worth it.
Cambodia Cubensis
Another fantastic strain to be brought to you buy The Hawks Eye Sacred Mushroom Spores is a very nice and fast growing cubensis from Cambodia. This is by far one of the fastest colonizing strains of cubensis we have ever seen. We've given it to a few other ppl who witnessed the same results. Let me give you an example. 3 days after inoculation, the strain germinated and 100% coloinzed 1/2 pint finch seed/verm jars in only 7 days. It was then cased and started pinning 10 days after being cased with a 1" thick casing layer. Mushrooms were harvested 25 days after inoculation. Every patch we've planted has given us the same amazing resluts...this strain just thrives to spread its sacred seed. We've seen a lot of different strains of psilocybe mushrooms grow over the years.. but this one takes the gold metal for one of the fasted growing cubensis. Not only do they grow extremely quick, but produced some absolutly beautiful textbook cubensis. This cubensis was originally picked by John Allen while in Cambodia filming some of the psilocybe mushrooms that are growing there. We have also found this to be one of the most potent cubensis we've ever eaten, deliverying a very nice energetic high that tended to last quite a while. Its not an extremely intense experience, just very energetic and last a long long time. Very smooth as well without much body noise. This one really wakes you up in a beautiful way. If you like the eneregetic journeys from these mushrooms, this is your ticket to an all night exploration. John Allen and his film grew said they found it to be very potent for a cubensis as well. These cubensis along with some Copelandia cambodgeniensis grow in the cattle (brahmans) dung around the Angkor Wat Temple at Siem Reap, Cambodia. You can see more pictures of this mushroom taken by J. Allen at spiritplants.com.
As for cultivating conditions, it does really well on finch or birdseed, eats through grains, fruits on dung well, loves compost, and seems to love high temps. We've had this mushroom colonize rapidly in 85f+ temps.. and fruited at 93F+ temps with no problem. It loves heat!!!! It also generates lots of heat, so take this in to consideration when incubating and fruiting. This is definatly the summer mushroom of choice. We've also heard back from ppl that the jars of mycelium put off a lot of heat.... not many mushroosm do well in those high of temps.... definatly your outdoor late spring/summer strain. It took a while.. but we have domesticated this strain... and its very stable now, it also withstnads contamination very well. Recently a lot of pictures have been surfacing of this cub doing very well in outdoor patches at cooler temperatures as well. Another thing we have noticed and heard back, is sometimes it produces nice smooth stems, and beautiful caps, textbook cubs, then other times it produces some lumpy stems. They also produce and abundance of mushrooms in a small area. Not a very large growing mushroom on grains, but produces some very large fruits on dung or compost. On grains they make up for the small size by produces a lot of mushrooms in a small area. Be sure and check out the pictures of the cambodians on compost below, this mushroom produces some really beautiful fruits.
For colonization, we recommend 75F-80f, not much higher because they throw off a lot of heat. For fruiting, it will fruit in lower temps of 60F, but it loves heat once again... fruiting will occur from 60F to 93f+.... yes.. 93F+  This is one of our favorite cubensis strains because its so fast colonizing and fruiting and is very easy on the mind, body and soul.
Ecuador Cubensis
Coming to you all the way from 3500+ feet up in the Equador mountains is the beautiful ecuador cubensis. This one was picked by BIO himself, and is very widespread around the world at this point :O). This mushroom has become very popular, as it grows very easy as well. It produces some very nice golden color mushrooms, and grows very easily on a variety of substrates. It has been deemed by many to be one of the most beautiful, picture perfect cubs out there. Its colonizing speed is average, but it produces an abundance of nice big healthy mushrooms. Usually averaging 4"-9" depending on how they are grown. This mushroom also tends to grow some rather thick stems and large caps. This is a great strain for beginners because it's so stable and fruits very easily. Its been around for a while, and is accustomed to about any subsrate you care to grow it on. The euphoric sensation it creates is a very dreamy, and relaxing, that can be quite visual.
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Re: Variations in Trips with various Mushroom Strains. [Re: Mycelium69]
#666779 - 06/06/02 10:56 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's unfortunate that you would start off here by putting your first post in the wrong forum. This, in case you missed it, is the "Cultivation" forum.
Try General Questions next time.
Or here's a thought. Try the Search feature and you'll see where far too many others have asked this same question.
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Re: Variations in Trips with various Mushroom Strains. [Re: Mycelium69]
#666826 - 06/07/02 02:00 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Its just as annoying watching you moderate all the forums in such a way...allow the mods to move and correct........
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Re: Variations in Trips with various Mushroom Strains. [Re: TripySmurf]
#666871 - 06/07/02 03:39 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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I see no reason to move this thread......
The high you experience can vary depending on several factors. Indeed, potentcy can vary from mushroom to mushroom within the same patch. State of mind, setting, how much you've eaten and/or drunk can all play a part in your experience.
I find most descriptions of highs (this one is visual, this one provides a body high, etc.), is mostly advertsing hype.
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bassplayer74
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Re: Variations in Trips with various Mushroom Strains. [Re: ]
#666917 - 06/07/02 04:49 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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I agree Captain... It's the same chemical in each strain just different amounts. One strain may contain a little more magic than another strain. So if you take 3 grams of one strain and 2 weeks later take 3 grams of another you may not get the same effect even though you took exactly 3 grams again. Plus, like you said, there a some other factors that will influence the trip as well.
These facts are what causes different trips between strains, its not because some strains are chemically different. It's the same chemicals.
I could have said that better I'm sure. I just woke up. But this is the way that I understand it. Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong cause I'm no chemist. 
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Re: Variations in Trips with various Mushroom Strains. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#667097 - 06/07/02 07:25 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dude, everyone is so tired of your self-appointed forum police wannabe ass. All you ever say in everyone's post is "this is in the wrong forum."
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TripySmurf
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Re: Variations in Trips with various Mushroom Strains. [Re: lithiumcove]
#667135 - 06/07/02 07:46 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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In reply to:
Dude, everyone is so tired of your self-appointed forum police wannabe ass. All you ever say in everyone's post is "this is in the wrong forum."
Took the words outta my mouth..only slightly more angry
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Re: Variations in Trips with various Mushroom Strains. [Re: TripySmurf]
#667342 - 06/07/02 10:16 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Waahhhhhh.
Tough shit.
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Re: Variations in Trips with various Mushroom Strains. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#667556 - 06/07/02 12:49 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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luvdemshrooms...
Just out of curiousity...do you really do anything but post comments on how things are in the wrong forum? I have yet to see an actual intelligent post or even an unintelligent question from you.
Back to the post, I can't explain it, but different strains do have different effects on my friends and I. I have noticed the Thailand Lamai Beach is more of a speedy trip, while the PF original and EQs seem to be more mellow and visual. There is no proof behind this, thats just what happened with me.
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Re: Variations in Trips with various Mushroom Strains. [Re: Mycelium69]
#667596 - 06/07/02 01:20 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think strains are different. I think genera are totaly different.
I will use alcohol as an example.
Alcohol is a chemical structure. Take the affects of different alchoholic drinks. Champagne has a different effect than lager for instance. Although they have similar proofs the effects (high) of each are different.
The same can be said for hashish. Nepalese temple hash is totally different from morroccan double zero, but they both have the same active ingredient THC.
My opinion anyway 
Good luck
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Re: Variations in Trips with various Mushroom Strains. [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#667631 - 06/07/02 02:03 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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In reply to:
I think strains are different. I think genera are totaly different.
I would agree.....since I have tried many strains and have had different trips on quite a few of them.
And when taking the same strain again.....I had the same trip I had on them before!
True test would be having a friend of mine pick out which strain to try.....and not tell me which one and see if I can guess which strain I am on.
I bet you 3/4 of the time I would know.
One Example :
There is such a difference between Cambodians and Gulf Coast.....that it isn't even funny.....a moron could tell the difference.
anyway......try them yourself and you will see the difference.
Then the different types of active mushrooms.....Cubes, Liberty Caps, Azures, Cops....etc.
They are all different too.
getting off my box now!
just enjoy them!!
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PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.
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Re: Variations in Trips with various Mushroom Strains. [Re: Roadkill]
#667639 - 06/07/02 02:09 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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It makes total sense to me. I'm sure even the slightest genetic variations that one strain tends to promote while another mutates or changes plus environmental conditioning is what makes different strains have different effects. Just like marijuana...I've had some really "paranoid" weed in my day and I have also had some brilliantly "meditative" and "chill" weed as well. Most lay persons at least know there are two main varieties of cannabis: sativa (the more chilled) and indica (trippier). Cross breeding and genetic modifications have led to many wonderful variations...I don't see why the same wouldn't apply to cubensis.
Love & Light,
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Re: Variations in Trips with various Mushroom Strains. [Re: Boppity604]
#667717 - 06/07/02 03:14 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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I am 100% sure that there are variations in the potency and alkaloid ratios in different strains of cubensis and i have also tried many spore-races many times.
I have tripped hard on Tassies, Eqs, B+ and Mazas atleast 15 times for each mushroom and they ARE different.
Luvdemshrooms - you would like to be a 'throw-your-weight-around' moderator no?
Captain Max - you'd know all about vendor hype wouldnt you
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Re: Variations in Trips with various Mushroom Strains. [Re: Mycelium69]
#667917 - 06/07/02 05:48 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, there, didnt mean to be posting in the wrong forum. Sorry to offend those that are so easily offended by such offenses. Seems to be an interesting question though, and thanks to those who answered constructively.
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Re: Variations in Trips with various Mushroom Strains. [Re: Mycelium69]
#668059 - 06/07/02 08:46 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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yw
like I said....test it yourself.
try the Gulf Coast then try the Cambodians....and you will see the difference.
If anyone has any doubt.....try these 2.
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Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.
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Re: Variations in Trips with various Mushroom Strains. [Re: Mycelium69]
#668127 - 06/07/02 10:00 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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They each are different trips!
But this is in the wrong forum...
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Re: Variations in Trips with various Mushroom Strains. [Re: Roadkill]
#668133 - 06/07/02 10:12 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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