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Re: would you enter the dream tank?..... [Re: dzza]
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I'm with Icelander here.  I'm getting in the fucking tank.

:minigun:


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Re: would you enter the dream tank?..... [Re: Cups]
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:thumbup:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: would you enter the dream tank?..... [Re: Icelander]
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I doubt I'd go in. I'm too afraid of myself. That old adage, be careful what you wish for.

I'd think I knew what I wanted but I doubt I have any idea at all.


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Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction?
Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain

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Re: would you enter the dream tank?..... [Re: Kickle]
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Kickle said:
I doubt I'd go in. I'm too afraid of myself. That old adage, be careful what you wish for.

I'd think I knew what I wanted but I doubt I have any idea at all.


no no no. that's the purpose of it, if ANYTHING isn't right for you or something like that, it simply will not be there!.....when i first thought about it i thought 'you need the bad things in life to appreciate the good things.' But in the tank, you won't need bad the things.


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"Insanity in individuals is rare but in, groups, parties and nations,it is a rule"- Friedrich Nietzsche.



peace

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Re: would you enter the dream tank?..... [Re: deCypher]
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deCypher said:
You could always program in a challenge...:strokebeard3:


again, that's the whole point. If you are someone who likes a challenge, there be challenges. It will be YOUR perfect life....


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"Insanity in individuals is rare but in, groups, parties and nations,it is a rule"- Friedrich Nietzsche.



peace

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Re: would you enter the dream tank?..... [Re: Kickle]
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Kickle said:
I doubt I'd go in. I'm too afraid of myself. That old adage, be careful what you wish for.

I'd think I knew what I wanted but I doubt I have any idea at all.



You're afraid of your perfect life.:confused: What a horrible feeling that must be.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: would you enter the dream tank?..... [Re: cheech1]
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13189976/fpart/1/vc/1
cheech1 said:
I am not sure what philosopher came of this idea but il share it with ya.

if someone had created a 'dream tank' and inside this tank you can live the perfect life, your perfect life, but it is not real......and once you enter this tank, you won't know that it is not real. would you enter it? many philosophers say that no-one would enter it because no-one would want to live a life that isn't real. But we have no real evidence that this life is real.... so we might as well go into this 'dream tank' right? after all this 'reality' mostly consists of pain, ignorance and hatred, so why wouldn't anyone want to escape it? (a lot like the matrix this shit.) I would definitely go into this tank! (ignorance is bliss)

anyway....

the whole point of this post: Would YOU enter it??



This was something I was trying to allude to in this earlier thread. Based on my current thinking, I would not get in the tank, not while I was still unsure that I had not already placed myself in a similar position.

Edited by Brainstem (01/27/11 08:38 AM)

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Re: would you enter the dream tank?..... [Re: Brainstem]
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are you kidding? nothing in real life will ever be perfect.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: would you enter the dream tank?..... [Re: Icelander]
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Truish, but whos version of perfect ? Have you seen the Costner film "A perfect world" ?, not my idea of a utopian paradise.:tongue2:

Do you ever rest ?

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Re: would you enter the dream tank?..... [Re: Brainstem]
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You're like a perpetual notion machine.:thumbup:

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Re: would you enter the dream tank?..... [Re: Brainstem]
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Brainstem said:
Truish, but whos version of perfect ? Have you seen the Costner film "A perfect world" ?, not my idea of a utopian paradise.:tongue2:

Do you ever rest ?




I rest while I type.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: would you enter the dream tank?..... [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
Kickle said:
I doubt I'd go in. I'm too afraid of myself. That old adage, be careful what you wish for.

I'd think I knew what I wanted but I doubt I have any idea at all.



You're afraid of your perfect life.:confused: What a horrible feeling that must be.


It doesn't really come up. I don't aim for any sort of perfection. I just know that when I've used external influences to try and arrive at happiness, it has been fail all around.


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Re: would you enter the dream tank?..... [Re: Kickle]
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So you'd not take it even if it was a positive as stated?:crazy2:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: would you enter the dream tank?..... [Re: Icelander]
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I'm saying I'd doubt the ability for anyone to make a dream tank that delivered on this promise. And so I'd still be doubting it even if it was right in front of me. I just don't think it's possible. It could be my wildest fantasy but I'm pretty sure there is a downside to that, even if the fantasy doesn't end.

Perhaps what I'm trying to say is that I don't think my mind (or any mind) can grasp what perfection IS and so this tank would not contain a created perfection. It would contain a desired ideal that contains lots of imperfections. I wouldn't know whether it would turn out to be better or worse, and I wouldn't remember that I'd gone in to compare. May as well just take my chances where I am, it's really not so bad I need to flee it.


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Re: would you enter the dream tank?..... [Re: Kickle]
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Are you serious? This whole thread is a what if fantasy game. I can't believe you are thinking this is any more than that.:lol:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: would you enter the dream tank?..... [Re: Icelander]
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What do you mean? I'm answering the what if with how I feel. It isn't anything more than that.


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Re: would you enter the dream tank?..... [Re: Kickle]
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if someone had created a 'dream tank' and inside this tank you can live the perfect life, your perfect life,

Read this again. It's not about any question as to if it's possible or not. He's asking you to imagine that it is real and it is possible.  Then, would you do it?


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: would you enter the dream tank?..... [Re: Icelander]
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And I'm saying I would doubt my certainty about this perfect life of mine. I can't believe other skeptics wouldn't fall prey to this as well. Maybe I'm too good at putting myself into the scenario? I'm picturing a tank that becomes created and that info you just quoted is on the brochure. I'm doubting the hell out of it :smile:

I thought this was for philosophical discussion of the dream tank and whether you'd go in. I didn't think it was philosophical discussion about real v fake GIVEN absolute certainty of improvement. I thought it was open ended and the real/fake dichotomy was a potential reason people don't join. Doubt is my personal reason for not going in. I wouldn't care about the real/fake dichotomy except as it plays into doubt.

If the only thing standing in the way is real versus fake, and I somehow knew that the fake, which means artificially created, which means created by someone just as fallible as myself and perhaps more-so, was legitimately going to be upgrading... I would go for it. But that's a very trusting  assumption to just make IMO.

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Re: would you enter the dream tank?..... [Re: Kickle]
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finally done editing that sucker for clarity... :lol:


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Re: would you enter the dream tank?..... [Re: Kickle]
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"I would go for it."
:thumbup: good just follow me.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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