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Speaking of Lucid Dreaming...
    #1594309 - 05/30/03 08:04 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Anyone here ever done it? I've only done it a handful of times, but a good lucid dream is comparable to shrooms.

The very best one of all just went on and on and on. Where dreams are normally insubstantial and vague, I fucking *WOKE UP INSIDE THE DREAM* and it was so REAL. I was in an actual place, or so it seemed. The colors were intense. The landscape was surreal, but real, and relatively constant. So were the people. The only thing dreamlike about the whole experience was the powers I learned I had. If I found myself at the top of a cliff, I could will stairs into existence. Any problem that confronted me was no problem to handle. I could think entire symphonies out loud just like in Richard Bach's Illusions. I had woken up in the dream, but the people in my dream didn't know that. They freaked when I explored my new powers.And what really made it all so neat was that I was so incredibly BOMBED. Fucking la-la land. I've never been so stoned in my life. I kept expecting it to end - usually my excitement awakens me when I start to Lucid Dream - but it lasted for what seemed like hours.

I embarked on a grand bacchanal and recreated something closely akin to the Circus Circus Casino in Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas. I peopled it with similarly bizarre creatures and caroused, the god of my own little lunatic universe, happy in my debauchery, the perfect host, conjuring cheap tricks and reveling in what must have been a pure dopamine drip into my brain's pleasure center. God, it was good! Gradually, after what seemed like hours, I faded out until I was no longer Lucid. I was asleep again but the dream went on...only now it was just an ordinary dream, and I was my ordinary dreaming self, occluded, slow and clumsy.

Whenever I have one of those dreams, I wake up realizing that the waking world is just a vague shadow on the wall, and we are bumbling dimbulbs like our dreaming selves, shuffling along aimlessly, barely able to navigate because we lack so many of the higher senses.

And all my days are trances
And all my nightly dreams
Are where thy dark eye glances
And where thy footstep gleams
In what ethereal dances
By what eternal streams

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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: LucidDream]
    #1594407 - 05/30/03 08:30 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I've done it afew times and love it! Its soooo cool, I cant explain in detail whats up with it but its cool hehe. Thats why I'm getting Dream Herb, should be getting here tomorrow. I'll let you know how that goes.


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: LucidDream]
    #1594409 - 05/30/03 08:31 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Ive tried it before but cant say that i ever did it.

"but a good lucid dream is comparable to shrooms"
-or is it the other way around?

Everytime i start to do it i wake up, and tips for a boy tryin to control his dreams.


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: apuffball]
    #1594485 - 05/30/03 08:54 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Wake up, like with your alarm after sleeping 5hrs, then try to control your dream as you quickly fall back asleep...


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: apuffball]
    #1594488 - 05/30/03 08:55 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

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Everytime i start to do it i wake up, and tips for a boy tryin to control his dreams.



http://www.erowid.org/spirit/dreaming/dreaming.shtml


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: DailyPot]
    #1594495 - 05/30/03 09:00 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks, i tried keeping a log book, and reminding myself to recognize when a dream starts but that shit just dont work for me, ill keep tryin tho??


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: DailyPot]
    #1594501 - 05/30/03 09:03 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Pray tell, what is Dream Herb? I've considered some of the electronic devices for Lucid Dreaming, but I'd much prefer an herbal alternative.


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: LucidDream]
    #1594512 - 05/30/03 09:09 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

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Pray tell, what is Dream Herb? I've considered some of the electronic devices for Lucid Dreaming, but I'd much prefer an herbal alternative.



Dream Herb

Dream Herb was traditionally used by the Chontal Natives of Oaxaca, Mexico. It would be prepared as a tea and drank while smoking a cigarette made up of the foliage just before going to bed.

Those who partook of the Dream Herb were able to experience lucid dreaming; the ability to control and remember their dreams with less effort. Auditory hallucinations are also fairly common, which prompted the Chontals, believing they were hearing the voice of God, to refer to Calea zacatechici as Leaf of God.

Exactly how Dream Herb effects the brain is not well understood. Modern studies have shown an increase in brain activity during sleep and some minor hallucinations of subjects when awake.


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: apuffball]
    #1594517 - 05/30/03 09:10 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

DailyPot's advice is a good starter. Another interesting technique is detailed at the end of Journeys Out of the Body, by Robert A. Monroe. His "Dream Tek" is kind of frustrating and requires almost infinite patience. It also helps if you don't have a day job, because you will be tired. But he's more into OOB, and I've never been able to pull that off. That's some freaky shit.


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: LucidDream]
    #1594840 - 05/30/03 10:35 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I used to lucid dream regularly before a really bad shroom trip 3 months ago, which left me with a severe Depression and anxiety disorder. Anyways, the best way I found (since I knew I had a rather obsessive personality) was to constantly question myself if I was dreaming every 10 or 20 minutes or whenever I remembered to... then I would read a piece of text, look away for a few seconds and reread it, if the text changed in any way I was probably dreaming.  Through this behavioural conditioning I soon found myself doing this while dreaming and realizing that I was dreaming. I had the wildest dreams but it was tough to stay lucid in the dreams - i.e. after ataining lucidity I would often forget that I was dreaming and the dream would fade back into a normal dream. Then I discovered a really powerful technique (either from Casteneda's Dreaming bk, or Stephen La Berge's Lucid dreaming bk not sure where) - I would spin in my dream every time I felt I was starting to fade. This allowed me to maintain lucidity for a longer time. However, even then I soon came to realize that lucid dreams (like most dreams) are relatively short. In any case, I abandoned the activity after I almost lost my mind (rather... I "felt" like I was losing my mind) after my shroom trip. The last thing I want to do now is question reality, or whether I'm really awake or dreaming. A friend of mine further terrified me by telling me that some people can't tell the diff between dreaming and reality... scary... yikes, I feel scared just typing this... am I awake ? did I just say that ? did they hear me ? :grin: 


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: lucid]
    #1594865 - 05/30/03 10:43 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

BTW, interestingly I discovered that while I could often control many things in my dream, sometimes even after becomming lucid and knowing I was dreaming, I still couldn't manage to do certain things. e.g. sometimes I just couldn't fly inspite of my efforts, or sometimes I'd be flying and would start falling, unable to sustain flight. Interestingly, I would also get scared (I guess at the possibility that I might not be dreaming or could somehow get hurt), but could generally pull myself out of this.


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: lucid]
    #1594935 - 05/30/03 10:55 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I've had some pretty wild lucid dreaming experiences, maybe I'll write more if I get the time. But this one experience I just remembered was when I was extreemly tired in the afternoon, lay down, looked at the clock, dozed off, had a really vivid lucid dream in which a person came and told me stuff about my personal life that would happen in the near future (and of course never did), and then woke up only to see the clock and realize I had slept all of 10 or 20 minutes...


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: LucidDream]
    #1595242 - 05/31/03 12:58 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I've done it a few times, I love them! ^_^


Lucid dreaming played a big role into getting me into drugs and shit.


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: Sombie]
    #1595292 - 05/31/03 01:21 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I just bought a digital watch.. I make sure to look at it during the day every chance I get.. I guess I'll eventually get in the habit and try and read the time when I'm in a dream, and then I may become lucid.


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: Grav]
    #1596596 - 05/31/03 05:26 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

i've practiced lucid dreaming for awhile, and some of my experiences have led me to believe that this is an ability that deserves much respect. to exist in a conciousness where you can manipulate all your surroundings at will can prove to be quite a powerful experience.


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: dpc2424]
    #1596646 - 05/31/03 05:55 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, I know :laugh:
I actully worry about this sometimes. I know power, especially alot of it, is a bad thing. But I *LOVE* that ultimate pure absolute power! And thats natural but I cant help feeling theres something wrong with it like its making me worse of a person.

I dont even do good things with it. Yeah I know its just a dream but still. Once I realized its all about me whatever is going on stops, reality bends to my will because I make it. And I use all my power for nothing else than personal pleasure. I rarely do things for other people or even care about being nice.

I stop being equal, I dunno how superman is such a hero when I just like to fuck around. I think if I were him I'd end up taking over the world, its just a matter of time...


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: DailyPot]
    #1596669 - 05/31/03 06:09 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

>to exist in a conciousness where you can manipulate all your surroundings at
>will can prove to be quite a powerful experience.

yeah, my ex wife lived in that state of conciousness :grin:
seriously though, I wonder if such practices (like lucid dreaming) can be
"unhealthy". I heard that some yogi's practice it. I often hear people say
"anything taken to the extreeme can be unhealthy", but how does one
determine extreeme ? I mean our current life styles could be considered
extreeme too... besides some monks meditate for the better part of their waking
lives and they seem pretty stable. 


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: DailyPot]
    #1596716 - 05/31/03 06:44 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, I ussally just fly around until I find some chick and then I fuck her, not exsactly the most moral thing to do...



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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: Sombie]
    #1597487 - 06/01/03 03:11 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, I believe that it might be negative, because you would be experiencing real sitituations in an unreal environment, making life less meaningful, these experiences dont have their consquences, like they would in reality. Sombie you might eventually lose intrest in fucking chicks lol

Im concerned about the moral problems it might cause, not physical, but mental .. where you could do anything to anyone .. I believe you have to take your morals into the dream state, and the only morals in a world where you technically are God, is the relegious understanding .. you wont take for granted the powers of this amazing creation, your own mind .. instead will reveer the creator of it.

In world where you have absolute power, the only thing which can keep you sane, is knowing that there is someone more powerful in the end.


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: nemesis]
    #1597501 - 06/01/03 03:20 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Its not that you dont have morals because you're in the dream world. Has nothing to do with that... If you had the same powers in the real world I believe it would be the same issue. Absolute power corupts either way.

I dont believe many people can handle absolute power with abusing it. Its the same in dreams. Why should you do anything? There is a line but where is it? In your dreams you draw it...

I dont think its a big deal either way, and if it is then it doesn't matter cuz theres nothing you/we can do about it anyways. I dont think life becomes less meaningful afterwards. Also I dont think real life would have consquences if I had my powers :wink:


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: nemesis]
    #1597521 - 06/01/03 03:28 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

In world where you have absolute power, the only thing which can keep you sane, is knowing that there is someone more powerful in the end. 



Then thats not absolute.

I ones tryed creating someone in my dream that was more powerful than me, he ended up becoming my friend and then wanted to show me what its like to be normal. Took my powers, I let him. And then he went power crazy. I ofcourse found a way to beat him once I realize he was still couldn't beat me since it was a dream and I realized that idea sucked ass.

Besides, I still feel that in your dreams you have a limit where you need one. Your subconsious. Thats why people that are flying suddenly lose the ability to. Its happened to me where I lost almost all my powers and I didn't realize why. Besides, you can change the world but the world is your subconsious. It can change to stop you, I hate it when that happens :tongue:


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: DailyPot]
    #1597536 - 06/01/03 03:35 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

You can only control what you focus on controlling. The rest is controlled by SC. Thats why when you talk to people, even after you realize you're in full control, that they can say things without you controlling what they say. I've realized that my power can influence everything, like I can manipulate people in my dream, which I dont believe most people can do.

I can do alot of cool shit :grin:

And let me just settle this before someone asks. Drugs DO work in your dreams :smile: and you dont have any come-on time, anything you take starts working within afew secs...


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: DailyPot]
    #1597698 - 06/01/03 04:42 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I'll have to remember to try some more salvia in my dreams :wink:


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: Strumpling]
    #1597839 - 06/01/03 09:52 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I dreamt last night some guy was trying to sell me an 8th of LSD out in the desert...

... but I was too busy trying to broadcast my script of a childrens cartoon with a pair of computer speakers. I had a deadline!


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: DailyPot]
    #1598442 - 06/01/03 04:48 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I remember taking some O in one of my non-lucid dreams (i have never taken O in real life) and it made me feel sooo fucking cool.

so yeah I can back you up on that... drugs work in dream life, and there is no waiting time.


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: Sombie]
    #1598673 - 06/01/03 05:50 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah hehe, I tryed coke and got fucked up, it was real cool but not for me. Never tryed it in real life. Bars are like twice as strong as normal. Weed actully can make you trip, but it doesn't always. I duont remeber any other drugs cept shrooms, I tripped so fucking hard. Salvia didn't work for me at all when I tryed it...but that coulda been bad luck.


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: DailyPot]
    #1602054 - 06/02/03 06:32 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

What is a good beginners book to read. This shit really interests me.


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: apuffball]
    #1602579 - 06/02/03 09:31 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

>What is a good beginners book to read
I'd recommend Stephen La Berge's book on Lucid dreaming


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: lucid]
    #1603243 - 06/03/03 01:00 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

yes it interests me as well :laugh:
but what sucks is I dont think I have dreams.

Im dead serious. either that or I have crappy ass dreams. its my first time hearing about lucid dreaming... ill read more on it thanks to dailypot postin a link :laugh:


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: shr00m]
    #1603574 - 06/03/03 04:22 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Interesting, from most of the lucid dreaming accounts on this thread I get the
impression that people can really control every aspect of their dreams after
becomming lucid. This was certainly not the case for me. While I could
manipulate certain things, other things were unaffected by me. Even in the
dream, while telling myself that this is MY dream and I should be able to
change this or that, I was unable to. Don't know how others on this
thread managed to do this... damn control freaks :grin: 


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: lucid]
    #1605756 - 06/03/03 07:49 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I wish i could lucid dream. It sounds like a big mental fun hour.

I think controlling my dreams at night + shrooming during the day = total bliss 24/7

Too bad you can't shroom everyday :frown:


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: psilo9com]
    #1608141 - 06/04/03 04:07 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I got my dream herb today! I'll let you guys know how it goes...


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: DailyPot]
    #1608489 - 06/04/03 05:49 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Yea please let us kno and thanks for this info...now that schools mostly done i have more days to sleep in


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: apuffball]
    #1609171 - 06/04/03 09:53 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Damn it! I'll have to test it out again som other time sorry guys. My little cuz is over for the week and to say he's annoying is an understatement. Well with him, my little brother and then my mom saying I wont sleep tonight I wasn't able to sleep more than half an hour at a time and finially I gave up

I did notice a change in consiousness tho while awake and while asleep I was thinking crazy thought which had they had the chance to form into dream.... :mad:

Anyone know exact dose? I wasn't sure so I just put some in my mouth and then made two teas...probably too much...most places dont have good info on this.


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: DailyPot]
    #1609311 - 06/04/03 10:45 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Although I've never attempted it, the concept of lucid dreaming has always intriqued me. Having said that, I am on medication that makes my dreams extremely vivid, and some of them are just so funny sometimes, I wake up chuckling! It's a great way to start the day, I must say. :grin: 


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: Le_Canard]
    #1609406 - 06/04/03 11:25 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

>I am on medication that makes my dreams extremely
yeah, I think meds and supplements that interact/act on seratonin can make your
dreams. particularly vivid. From experience 5-HTP, Melatonin, Ambein and Benzo's
can do this. Hmmm, although my anti-depressant seems to have no effect on my
dreams. I found 5-HTP to have a powerful effect on dreaming intensity.


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: lucid]
    #1609532 - 06/05/03 12:12 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I want some of that :tongue:

When I woke up I understood the universe, its just like a coffee machine. I dont remeber how tho anymore :frown: I need more herb hehe


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: lucid]
    #1609545 - 06/05/03 12:18 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I just started up lucid dreaming practices once again, i got kind of scared before and stopped. Iam not really sure if its lucid dreaming or an onset of a obe(out of body experience). When i get into it, everything starts to buzz at a high frequency, and my enivornment is extactly the same. Then i get a few waves of vibirations which is suppose to happen right before a obe, and a paralyazing effect takes place. That's as far as it goes since i get scared and try and come out of it.


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: DailyPot]
    #1609546 - 06/05/03 12:18 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

>When I woke up I understood the universe, its just like a coffee machine
That would explain why I feel like yesterday's coffee grinds... with the
life strained out of me  :tongue: 


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: lucid]
    #1611799 - 06/05/03 03:51 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

lol

I have something to report, I believe I got the end of the herbs effects. I went to sleep after doing a project about 6hrs after taking it. I woke up after having the most amazing dream, I was tripping balls at a hotel with some friends by the pool just going crazy when I looked at this kids beard and felt a surge of power, I stuck my hand out and burned it and it shrunk. I told my friends what I just did and they said 'you're tripping sooo hard' and I believed it for a second before I felt completely sober and realized I was dreaming and went lucid :grin:

I dont feel like going into detail about the whole dream but it was very long and realistic. I remeber it almost like if it had happened for real. The vision you have in dreams wasn't there, it was extremely detailed and sharp, more so than when I'm normal lucid. I highly recommened this stuff for those of you trying to go lucid...and this wasn't even its full effects :shocked:

The tripping felt sooooooo real :ooo:


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: DailyPot]
    #1611933 - 06/05/03 04:33 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I went lucid again last night.

I haven't in awhile so it was pretty exciting.

I was riding around with my friend in his car. We were trying to get somewhere, and I noticed he was driving us into this 'dangerous' area. It was like the rural slums or something... this woodsy area where there were hobos lurking or something like that..

Anyways, I got frustrated and looked right at him, and I suddenly realized what was going on. And i PULLED HIS FACE OFF. It was pretty fucked up. It came off just like a plastic mask and underneath he sort of looked like a different friend of mine.

I said something like "I know you're not real, I know this isn't real".

But whenever I realize I'm dreaming like that, I get really anxious and scared... I feel like theres some consequence that's gonna fuck my world over because I've realized some huge secret... So I always freak out and start getting those huge body shocks and then I wake up.


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: Grav]
    #1611937 - 06/05/03 04:34 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

dailypot, what exactly did you take? How long before sleeping and how much?


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: lucid]
    #1612274 - 06/05/03 06:30 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I think it's the Zoloft. I seem to one of the lucky few who are effected in this manner, according to the literature. :smile: 


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: Grav]
    #1612330 - 06/05/03 06:51 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

dream herb, two cups off weak tea I think, about a table spoon per cup

by the time i feel asleep for real it had been 6hrs since i drank it

i dunno exactly how much ur suppost to take since it seem no place has proper info


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: lucid]
    #1613646 - 06/06/03 03:08 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

i remember i read somewhere that only 30% of the population has lucid dreams on a regular basis.

my dreams are almost always lucid, most times they're like this

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Interesting, from most of the lucid dreaming accounts on this thread I get the
impression that people can really control every aspect of their dreams after
becomming lucid. This was certainly not the case for me. While I could
manipulate certain things, other things were unaffected by me. Even in the
dream, while telling myself that this is MY dream and I should be able to
change this or that, I was unable to. Don't know how others on this
thread managed to do this... damn control freaks :grin: 




sometimes they're very terrible and sometimes they're the best moments i've ever had. i don't know about you guys but every lucid dream i have i can recall it exactally as it happened and re-examine it later from a number of different views.

my dreams almost always have a meaning to them specific to me and my part in the grand scheme of life. i'd like to go into detail about it but i've got a little beer buzz going on and i don't like to explain things while under the influence. i'm not sure if anyone would even be interested in hearing my stories anyhow lol  :grin: but if someone says they'd like to know about them i will set some time aside tomorrow and make a detailed post about it, if not it's no big loss as i'm not the most social person in the world


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: spiritshaper]
    #1613658 - 06/06/03 03:18 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

my lucid dreams are always in technicolor. the colors are cooler than when shrooming even though its like your shrooming. I actually had one a few nights ago till my dog fucked it all up by barking his balls off at the lightning.


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: Meat_Log_Smurf]
    #1620614 - 06/09/03 02:36 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I had my first lucid dream last night. I've picked up the habit of looking at my hands and asking if I'm dreaming. So last night I finally did it in the dream. I was in a classroom like I was in high school again and I walked right up to the teacher slammed my hand on her desk (that sudden surge of power that comes with awareness is amazing) and continued to tell her she was just a part of my dream. I remember specifically telling her, "Yes, that is your name, but WHO ARE YOU?" She didn't say anything. After that I used kung fu on some classmates that had been picking on me pre-awareness.

Also, I've tripped in a dream before. I've tripped, I smoked up, and I rolled once. In the dream trip it was raining bullets. It was crazy!

My question is this, how does one bend dream reality once your aware that you can?


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: LostMetropolis]
    #1621063 - 06/09/03 04:39 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

lol
I'm afraid of doing something like what happened w/ your teacher and then realizing I'm really awake. I almost did that once...I woulda looked crazy. I was dreaming and then I woke up and realized I was still dreaming and woke up and thought I was still dreaming lol. Cuz I couldn't read my book, good think I figured it out.

You have to mess around in your dream to figure out how to change it. I've noticed that if you're new to it not looking at things help, like instead of creating something out of thin air try to pull it out of your pocket. You'll get the hang of it.


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: DailyPot]
    #1625641 - 06/11/03 05:39 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Well, once I knew it was a dream, it didn't matter. If I had done the reality test and found that it wasn't a dream I sure as hell wouldnt have done it. Heh.

Got the hang of it last night. Had my second lucid dream, so I did a bit more experimentation with it. It started out as horrible nightmare. I was at the mercy of all these texas chainsaw massacre type characters in this town far away. Eventually I looked at my hands and asked if I was dreaming, and alas I was. So I saved myself from the nightmare.

I ended up messing with my surroundings a little bit, shouting commands out into the air as if there were a computer controlling everything around me. I'll have to remember not to close my eyes next time I command my surroundings. I did that a few times and when I opened my eyes, my real eyes opened too, which would wake me momentarily. I stopped real time as well so I would have more time to experiment. I started to go back into the nightmare again though so I spinned around as I've read you're supposed to do. Fortunately it worked. I ended up in a house. Strangely there were beings there for my awakening. They were happy that I had awakened and that I was changing the dream palette around me at my will. After messing around a bit I asked one of the beings how to wake up. They answered me in my mind, so I opened my mouth wide a bunch of times and I woke up. Strange. The thing that gets me the most about it though is how much more real it feels once you're lucid. Regular dreaming is child's play by comparison. I don't remember the last time I felt so alive as when I woke up from the lucidity. It felt a lot like waking from the matrix, only more pleasant. I'm truly inspired. I think I'm going to write a story about it.

I'm curious though. Have there been many studies on lucid dreaming as means for helping the sick? For some reason when I woke up, I thought about aids victims or coma victims or people dying from cancer, and how much more at ease they would be if they could dream like this. I've heard of people who have stopped real time and have had 100 year long lucid dreams and such. If I was dying I wouldnt mind extending my life a little, even if only in my dreams.

Either way, I'm estatic. I think I'll try to fly next time. =)


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: LostMetropolis]
    #1625642 - 06/11/03 05:42 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

OH yeah, also I've been taking 5-HTP for a few weeks now. I took it last night just before going to sleep. I think it definetely helped.


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: DailyPot]
    #1626766 - 06/11/03 05:54 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

>>> dream herb, two cups off weak tea I think, about a table spoon per cup

That's not quite enough. Simmer a strong tea for about 15 minutes, allowing it to steep covered while you smoke a sizable bowl/joint filled with Calea Zacatechichi. Don't mix with cannabis; you will become confused.

This practice gave me some of the most vivid dream experiences and recollection I've ever been so fortunate for. Nothing conciously interactive, though. Perhaps next time.


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: Cougheeman]
    #1629244 - 06/12/03 05:37 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

I just started up lucid dreaming practices once again, i got kind of scared before and stopped. Iam not really sure if its lucid dreaming or an onset of a obe(out of body experience). When i get into it, everything starts to buzz at a high frequency, and my enivornment is extactly the same. Then i get a few waves of vibirations which is suppose to happen right before a obe, and a paralyazing effect takes place. That's as far as it goes since i get scared and try and come out of it.




...Well, you see, the thing with lucid dreaming...is that you're asleep.


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Re: Speaking of Lucid Dreaming... [Re: Sev]
    #1629898 - 06/12/03 10:18 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)


I studied the lucid dream last year for a university project and found some great training for inducing lucid dreams. Here is the reference of one of the best training that gives results in only weeks for most people!

Tholey, P. (1983). Techniques for inducing and manipulating lucid dreams. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 57, 79-90

I will try to find it back and post it there.




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    #1630489 - 06/13/03 03:19 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

out of body experiences are better, there is absolutely nothing to be scared of(unless your scared of yourself :wink: )  you are IMMORTAL out of body, you cannot be harmed, only scared.  Show love and you will be all powerful.  nothing beats love.  and plus you cant be harmed so what is there to fear?  you only feel fear because you are in a physical body and know you can be hurt or even die.  well when  out of body, how can you die.....you basically already stepped through the door, sept you have a coord connected to your astral body that will bring you back to your body if you need to come back for some reason, or most times it will pull you back in without your consent.

but hey, lucid dreaming is tyte too, you can have sex with hotties :laugh:

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My question is this, how does one bend dream reality once your aware that you can?




by not thinking you can do something, but by KNOWING you can. Know you are in completely control.  Dont question your ability, just do it as naturally as taking a hit from a bong, you know your gonna get a big ripper, there is no questioning it, you dont pack one up and think your gonna get a pussy hit.


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    #1631229 - 06/13/03 01:53 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Lucid dreaming are very fun and not that difficult to achieve, 2 weeks of practice and you will have one, what is more difficult is to maintain one when you are in it.
I would not compare it with shrooms, very different feeling and state of consciousness, in a ld I almost think like in a normal state.
Shrooms is more comparable to oobe, colors are similar and in a real oobe you have a mind expansion type of feeling similar to shrooms but not quite the same.
As per the dream herb, does no effect in me, plus it taste like crap heheh.
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    #1631314 - 06/13/03 02:32 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

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My question is this, how does one bend dream reality once your aware that you can?




by not thinking you can do something, but by KNOWING you can. Know you are in completely control. Dont question your ability, just do it as naturally as taking a hit from a bong, you know your gonna get a big ripper, there is no questioning it, you dont pack one up and think your gonna get a pussy hit.




Yeah. Honestly, the thought that I -couldn't- bend reality to my will when I realised I was dreaming never occured to me. I think the first time it happened went something like this:

"Hey, I think I'm dreaming."
*will myself to be somewhere else*
*one place fades in and the other fades out, like scenery changing on a stage...*
"...Yep, guess I'm dreaming."


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