psychedelickobain said:

women don't even know if they're attractive or not until a man gives them the idea that they are

you could be the ugliest man alive standing in front of the most beautiful woman and if you stood your ground and called her an ugly bitch she'd be CRUSHED inside her mind, although she'd put on a mask to hide it

everything they do to themselves - perfumes, makeup, clothing, etc - is all to attract males and male attention in general, and to feel good around their own kind

which is not to say males don't do much the same, they also perfume themselves and adjust their image and clothing to attract females, however it's never to the ridiculous extent that girls go

i don't know many men who literally wear a mask to go out, which is all make up is

make up can completely change a person's appearance, and most men would feel dishonest with themselves and others presenting themselves in such a way, don't you think?

yet women engage in this shallow behavior all the time and are taught to

but if you think women are arrogant it only means the women you see like that have got the idea from men that they're something special

trust me if you don't give a woman the attention she wants, all her arrogance will melt within minutes, because her whole self-image, that arrogance you pick up on, is like a house of cards that can be destroyed easily

anyway it's all mostly cultural

if men saw women as the hairy smelly beasts they would be without two showers a day, a bag full of makeup, dozens of bottles of lotions and perfumes, ETC then all the cat and mouse bullshit would end and we'd revert to a more natural way of relating to each other

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that is the most sexist thing i've ever heard.


it is somewhat true, they really need their image replenished.


but you might as well even it out by naming guys problems:

namely, violence, drugs, denial. business, war. I guess the women pick up all the slack on the things we DON'T fuck up, and fuck it up themselves. it's a well balanced circle

psychedelickobain said:

women don't even know if they're attractive or not until a man gives them the idea that they are

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you could be the ugliest man alive standing in front of the most beautiful woman and if you stood your ground and called her an ugly bitch she'd be CRUSHED inside her mind, although she'd put on a mask to hide it

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everything they do to themselves - perfumes, makeup, clothing, etc - is all to attract males and male attention in general, and to feel good around their own kind

which is not to say males don't do much the same, they also perfume themselves and adjust their image and clothing to attract females, however it's never to the ridiculous extent that girls go

i don't know many men who literally wear a mask to go out, which is all make up is

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make up can completely change a person's appearance, and most men would feel dishonest with themselves and others presenting themselves in such a way, don't you think?

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Yes. But can the majority accept what is under the mask? I support women without make up.

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yet women engage in this shallow behavior all the time and are taught to

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but if you think women are arrogant it only means the women you see like that have got the idea from men that they're something special

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trust me if you don't give a woman the attention she wants, all her arrogance will melt within minutes, because her whole self-image, that arrogance you pick up on, is like a house of cards that can be destroyed easily

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anyway it's all mostly cultural

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if men saw women as the hairy smelly beasts they would be without two showers a day, a bag full of makeup, dozens of bottles of lotions and perfumes, ETC then all the cat and mouse bullshit would end and we'd revert to a more natural way of relating to each other

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cat and mouse bullshit? As I have already stated, I am all for tossing out the bag full of make up, bathing is another issue...

And I am all for "a more natural way of relating to each other."

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I think face makeup makes women look old tired and ugly.

Plus it ruins your skin imo.

Really the only thing I've really found attractive is eyeliner and only if not too much is used.

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grischnackh said:

Any man that says he doesn't like makeup on girls is naive. Perhaps you should be refering to BAD makeup. Most girls (women!) use makeup. They just do it tastefully, and in moderation, so it is not obvious. So you can claim your love for "natural" beauty, but, in most cases, it's still makeup. Women are expected to be high maintenance, and men seem to forget that underneath it all we are just like them. No matter how "gross" you think it is, we all have underarm hair, hairy legs, upper lip hair, and a forest of a bikini line. If you enjoy that kind of stuff, then you can truly say you love "natural" beauty.

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Grooming is one thing. As for women that are self-absorbed, arrogant, and obsessed with their appearance: DUH!!! They get encouraged to be like that by men, and society as a whole. Men's magazines wouldn't sell if men didn't like looking at photoshopped, flawless, skinny, perfect bimbos in swimsuits. By placing such a huge emphasis on a women's appearance as her primary asset, it's no fucking suprise that a lot of women act like they're HOT SHIT.

There are level headed women out there. Though they don't have time to stand in front of a mirror all day, cos they're either studying or working, and doing something with their lives, making a positive contribution to the world, instead of engaging in constant obsessive self-absorbed narcissism.

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