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Re: i don't want to be a narcissist [Re: Buckthorn]
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Shit man - live at a shelter or something. Fuck fuck, i can't offer much advice....it seems serious too, just spend all your time at the library...get up early, go to bed early....avoid at all costs because when adults go crazy they can't change, they too are compleltly overwhelmed with anxiety, pressure, stress....

Good luck


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Re: i don't want to be a narcissist [Re: AlphaFalfa]
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Just accept that you'll be who you'll be regardless of your genetics or upbringing?

You could lose all of your limbs tomorrow and be REALLY changed forever, bet being a narcissist doesn't sound so bad now eh?

In reality though, I grew up thinking I'd never be like my father, but I ended up with all the same personality traits he had.

You just have to stop thinking, "I'll never be him.", and start thinking, "I will be better than he ever was".

Be the best, most ethical and loving/caring narcissist you can be, because no one will know if you are genuine and they will still fuel your innate needs/desires.

Seriously, embrace it and don't be a dick! :laugh:

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Re: i don't want to be a narcissist [Re: bluecurry]
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Well, you know full well that psychological diseases are irrelevant to you, just merly the fact that you are concious of it, changes the symptoms, as most of the symptoms have to do with the way you interpret your reality.

Well, give or take - not all mental diseases are mental, but with this one it is.


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Re: i don't want to be a narcissist [Re: AlphaFalfa] * 1
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Walking on egg shells comes to mind.  Does it ever feel this way? Not wanting to trigger him off, it's tiring and damn near impossible to reason with such high limits.  Support groups whether on the web or IRL would help you to share what it's like to live with him.  I totally relate to this post because I have personal experience living with PD with narcissistic traits and from my experience, I know it's hard for the people I love who stick with me when I am verbally abusive towards them.  My rage has driven people away and I consider it dangerous as you are suggesting it feels to yourself, I can relate to both you and your father.

In some areas of life, narcissism may help, like work; using persuasion etc, we're all a little narcissistic at times! He may have an ideal version of who he thinks he is and though he might exude a confident persona, at home, with you his (son?) it doesn't quite work, because he confuses his roles, he's misidentifying you and kinda like a madman shouting at a mirror, seeing you as his personal failures, totally missing your points you try to place to him.

Somehow he thinks its normal to treat you like this; was he treated similarly by his parents? was he an only child? Does he know his father?

My PD entails dysfunctional modes and schemata that get in the way of me living but I trigger mostly and extremely at home, otherwise in public I come off as a confident person who knows exactly what my agenda is.  (whatever it may be, depending on the context).  However, because a couple of my modes are synonymous with narcissism, I am aware of when it's happening and I work to change my attitude before it overwhelms me and I become awkward to live with.  Again, my loved ones understand me and help me thru those times where I act off to them, only because I've sat down with them and discussed where my problems lie, but all of this did not go without therapy.

You need to be safe and his aggression is causing not only himself but others problems too, how much does he know about himself?

The road to returning your father to a man who can give you what he should be is a long one and the patience you'll need is immense, doable, but it's his journey.  You can lead a horse to water etc...

AlphaFalfa said:
not all mental diseases are mental, but with this one it is.



What exactly does this mean?

Are you saying conditioning of a child is to disease as cancer is to the cell? :shrug:

This man was conditioned, sure there maybe genetic reasons but I would suggest the father had a rough history - Providing material satiation may not always meet the other needs a child has; "Usually these clients’ parents were never satisfied and gave their children love that was conditional on outstanding achievement; Some children develop this grandiosity to compensate for feelings of emotional deprivation or feelings of defectiveness." Young et al.

PD's are and can be treated, there is a difference, AlphaFalfa, between disease and disorder (as the official diagnostic name suggests) Disease can be synonymous with illness or disorder, and when you look in the DSM IV-TR, you come up with a disorder, however this book is just a bunch of symptoms that don't describe the causes. The ICD-10 is a manual of all illnesses and diseases that includes statistics on mortality and morbidity rates as well as mental disorders; The term 'disease' in the ICD-10 refers to something with known pathology and is different to a disorder.

It's always worth being clear on language that could potentially marginalize an equal.

I wish you luck OP, I hope a window inside one who shares has helped some..


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Re: i don't want to be a narcissist [Re: Buckthorn]
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Enpo said:
I'm 18 -- my dad has narcissistic personality disorder and I now fear I'm beginning to develop it or I'm just noticing the different traits.

I really don't know what I should do.

I don't know if this message is some kind of Narcissitic need for attention.

I guess, basically, I'm wondering if any one else out there has grown up with a parent with Narcissitic personality disorder and I'm looking for advice.

I don't know how to deal with his narcissitic irrationality and blame and guilt.

I feel overwhelmed and weak. After he throws all of his bullshit at me I feel like I want to smash everything around me and go on a rage, there's nothing I can say to get shit through his fucking head. It's always my fault-- I always do everything I am always to blame.

He gets in my fucking face and I can't do shit because if I do he's going to call the cops and kick me out of the house.

I was kicked out after he dislocated my shoulder a month ago and I just moved back in a week ago to start college but still he keeps up his shit. He hasn' changed at all and I'm under so much fucking pressure.

Now I feel pathetic and I am starting to cry in self pity or whatever the fuck this fucking feeling is because I'm typing this asking for help.

I don't know what ot fucking do.

Anyone have any stories to share or advice?



That is mental and emotional abuse. Also sounds a bit like physical harm. You need to get away from that situation period. You will be wise because of your struggle and you will not allow yourself to go down the same sad road.

Getting out of that situation is important. You could kick his ass and break him for satisfaction but not the best route to start a new life with likely. So leave, get a way out, contact a social worker or move out with a friend to support you till you get a job.


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Re: i don't want to be a narcissist [Re: Seanfu]
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I dont look at myself in the mirror because im a narcissist. I just like to watch myself exist

SF

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