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bastard psychiatrists ...
    #1715269 - 07/14/03 07:20 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

the fucking nazi wants to put me on antipsychotics. i'm not fucking schizophrenic, so i see no reason why he would want to do such a thing. he says it's for my bipolar disorder .. but aren't antipsychotics a little bit of overkill? i really don't want to take this shit, i have to put enough man-made chemicals into my body daily as is, and if i did NEED to take something for BD, i'd rather it not be an antipsychotic. =\

he says it's a new medicine and it was originally created to treat schizophrenia, but it also works for BD. it's called Zyprexa. i also hate taking newer medications, because less clinical studies have been done on them. i think i would rather take something that's been around and has a higher chance of side-effects, then take something that hasn't been on the market for very long.

i just feel like killing someone right now, preferably him.
*glares in her psychiatrist's general direction* 


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Re: bastard psychiatrists ... [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #1715296 - 07/14/03 07:24 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Don't take it!

I don't think you're psychotic, slothie.

Well at least not that psychotic  :wink:

Yeah doctors amaze me sometimes with what they are willing to prescribe to a person. There was even a show on tv the other night about how people are more or less being used as guinea-pigs by the pharmaceutical industry when they "push" for more applications for drugs they already produce. IE: like trying to use an anti-psychotic drug for a mood disorder...

You probably know what's best for you, eh  :smile:


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Re: bastard psychiatrists ... [Re: trendal]
    #1715322 - 07/14/03 07:28 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

i really don't want to take it ... but i really have no choice in the matter. if i don't take it, he'll probably put me back in the hospital for failure to cooperate or some retarded shit like that.

i'm just a little pissed because not ONCE when i was in his office did he mention that it was an antipsychotic; and to find out when i get home that that's what it was intended for upsets me.

i don't get why he didn't just tell me right out. he also said that i need 'psychotherapy' ... i really think i should shoot him.


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Re: bastard psychiatrists ... [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #1715381 - 07/14/03 07:44 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

they just want your dough. :thumbdown:


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Re: bastard psychiatrists ... [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #1715427 - 07/14/03 07:55 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)



Edited by Xibalba (09/30/05 02:37 AM)


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Re: bastard psychiatrists ... [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #1715876 - 07/14/03 10:03 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

So don't take it, and ask for an alternative. Don't let him bully you into taking meds that won't do you any good. If he kicks up a fuss and tries to throw you into the hospital, show your parents a print out of the negative side effects. I swear, some doctors really don't give a shit about their patients - I've read up on some side effects for stuff an online friend had to take, and that shit was fucking nasty. It was doing her more harm than good, and since it wouldn't work, they would just keep giving her more meds. And then she had to take other meds to conteract the side effects from the first med, so she ends up taking shitloads of pharms.
It makes me sick.

EDIT: Some info on it from erowid.org

PROBLEMS
As with other antipsychotics, olanzapine is considered quite safe. Nonetheless, there is a small potential for a syndrome known as Neuroleptic Malignant Syndrome (NMS). NMS *has* been reported with olanzapine. Tardive Dyskinesia (potentially irreversible, involuntary, jerking) may develop in patients treated with olanzapine for long periods.


SideEffects
Mental side effects include agitation, akathisia, amnesia, anxiety, dizziness, euphoria, headache, hostility, insomnia, sleepiness, stuttering, akithisia (restlessness of the legs).

Physical side effects include chest pain, edema, hypotension, tachycardia, abdominal pain, constipation, dry mouth, increased appetite, PMS (in women), weight gain, joint pain, rash, fever, and occasional sexual side effects.

And the full effects list (positive, neutral and negative)

http://www.erowid.org/pharms/olanzapine/olanzapine_effects.shtml

And another list of results from a study on side effects of this drug

http://rxlist.com/cgi/generic/olanzapine_ad.htm

http://rxlist.com/cgi/generic/olanzapine_wcp.htm

Scary stuff.


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Re: bastard psychiatrists ... [Re: Sheepish]
    #1716059 - 07/14/03 10:43 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

yes, i know. i researched it for a while. =\


evan: i wasn't like this in his office, i was quite nice. and i am pretty manic, especially at home. when i go places my anxiets kinda gets rid of it for the time being, but at home is another story entirely.

>Zyprexa is only recommended to treat the manic portion of bipolar disorder. You don't seem to have a problem with mania, but the depression... so it could even make things worse.

that's what i was thinking ... i tend sometimes to have reverse effects, but for some reason, i don't think that will happen on this medication.

do you think it was right of me to question him? i kind of feel bad, but it seems that doctors these days only look at the good side of what a medicine can do instead of taking in all the factors. and even when they do mention side-effects, they tone them down to make them seem 'not-all-that-bad' most the time. maybe i'm over reacting -- i personally don't think so.


anything with the word "pychotic" in it, can't be happy.


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Re: bastard psychiatrists ... [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #1716094 - 07/14/03 10:50 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I have Bi-Polar disorder and my meds help out a lot, I'd be dead if I didn't take them...


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Re: bastard psychiatrists ... [Re: LeViTY]
    #1716105 - 07/14/03 10:52 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

yes, i know. i've been trying to find a medication that will help a little more than what i'm on now, which is only for the depression. but are you on antipsychotics? you're definitely not pyschotic ... if you happen to be on any of these non-happy meds -- i suggest that you go kick your docting the ballz because he's obviously a jackass.

j/k, lev. i luvZ j00.

PS: i know what you mean about being dead if you didn't take your medication. whenever i go off mine, i end up in the hospital. it's not fun, but eventually, i will get off them all; but that's gonna take quite some time and a hell of a lot of patience.


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Re: bastard psychiatrists ... [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #1716121 - 07/14/03 10:55 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Go to a different psychiatrist. I have also been told to take them for obsessive compulsive disorder. The psychiatrists were plain wrong in diagnosing my obvious problems and gave me the wrong medication. I would just recommend SSRIs.


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Re: bastard psychiatrists ... [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #1716138 - 07/14/03 10:59 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

i'm on SSRIs ... but i've been on them for over 6 years.

i also have OCD, but i don't see how antipsychotics would help that any; i don't even see it as a problem.

i want to get off the SSRIs, i know the depression is part of the BD. if i could find a medication that would help for both the depression and the mania, i would be set.

i was thinking Lithium -- it's been around a while and there have been tons of studies done for it. the side effects really aren't that bad, and there isn't a high chance for most of them to happen.


i can't get a new psychiatrist, we're poor, the state pays for it. it's not my choice.


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Re: bastard psychiatrists ... [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #1716785 - 07/15/03 01:16 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

DO NOT TAKE THAT SHIT. Unless you are actively hallucinating or are psychotic in some way,don't even touch it with a ten foot poll. If you truly have OCD,there is a damn good chance it will make it worse. Even the medical literature doesn't really back up the claim it works for bipolar disorder. I really think if this guy ever took Zyprexa, his opinion of it will quickly change. There are better meds for bipolar disorder. Anticonvulsants,such as Lamictal,are a much better choice,but lithium is still the the most effective-it's the "gold standard". The bad thing about lithium is that the difference between a medical dose and a toxic dose is small. You have to get blood work done every month,and if you're blood levels get too high,they'll pull you from it right away.

I've taken Zyprexa before.It's nasty,nasty shit.


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Re: bastard psychiatrists ... [Re: Xibalba]
    #1716798 - 07/15/03 01:21 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Says it works by blocking your serotonin & dopamine receptors, so it sounds like you get all the fun of being a burnt-out E-Tard without having to go through all the partying first.




I've been on it. That's exactly how it made me feel. Good analogy. That shit's a chemical lobotomy.


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Re: bastard psychiatrists ... [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #1716809 - 07/15/03 01:25 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

> the fucking nazi wants to put me on antipsychotics.

my doctor put me on antidepressants once, but eventually I refused to take them because I lost my creative drive. Maybe ask your doc to give you something lighter and try it for a month. Never agree to a year of medication, you gotta test it out first.


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Re: bastard psychiatrists ... [Re: monoamine]
    #1716826 - 07/15/03 01:34 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

i wasn't planning on taking it.


i should just feed it to unsuspecting children. =\




lithium would be good .. i don't have a problem with blood work so it's not a big deal for me.


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Re: bastard psychiatrists ... [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #1716892 - 07/15/03 02:03 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Lithium has some indirect effects on serotonin.If you go on lithium,you might need to lower your dose of SSRI's. And I wouldn't be mixing a bunch of drugs with lithium either.


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Re: bastard psychiatrists ... [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #1716894 - 07/15/03 02:05 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

i should just feed it to unsuspecting children. =\




That's what acid is for,silly rabbit.


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Re: bastard psychiatrists ... [Re: monoamine]
    #1716906 - 07/15/03 02:09 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

well see .. i want to go on lithium to get OFF the SSRIs; they really suck, and i've been on them way too long.


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Re: bastard psychiatrists ... [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #1716941 - 07/15/03 02:32 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I'd ask him about Lithium, and stay away from the experimental shit...

Good luck with this, I don't know your situation but I hope you overcome this shit someday.


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Re: bastard psychiatrists ... [Re: neutralizer]
    #1716949 - 07/15/03 02:38 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

thanks, i'm going to talk to him about it in a month when i see him again.

i hate to have to lie to him, but i know that if i told him i didn't try it, he wouldn't put me on something different. so i think that the best thing to do is tell him i tried it and i hated it.


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