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Re: Brain Death & Sense of Time [Re: Nomad]
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What's a tyke, and how come Mr. Mushrooms knows we're getting closer?


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Re: Brain Death & Sense of Time [Re: bert]
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bert: Ok, so the brain releases DMT during death?

Bert!!! What did I just say?

There is no definitive proof one way or the other.
The brain might release DMT when it dies OR DMT might be released from the dead brain (a side effect of death, if you will).

Don't assume one or the other... there isn't yet an answer!!!


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Re: Brain Death & Sense of Time [Re: bert]
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Tykes are a kind of self-dribbling basketball  :laugh:

Copy'n paste Terence McKenna:

"Say this is what we're doing, and then they proceed to sing objects into existence. Amazing objects. Objects that are Faberge Eggs, things made of pearl, and metal, and glass, and gel, and you, when you're shown one of these things, a single one of them, you look at it an you know, without a shadow of a doubt, in the moment of looking at this thing, that if it were right here, right now, this world would go mad. It's like something from another dimension. It's like an artifact from a flying saucer. It's like something falling out of the mind of God - such objects DO not exist in this universe, and yet, you're looking at it. And they're clamoring for your attention. " 'k at this! 'ook at This! Look at THIS!" and they pull these things... and each one, you look into it and it begins to open into this wonder that you must fight. You say "No, don't look at it, look AWAY from it!" because it's so wonderful that it's swamping my objectivity and destroying my ability to function in this space.

Well, then they say "do"...

And the objects that they make have the peculiar ability to themselves generate this linguistic "stuff" which condenses as other objects. So beings are making objects, showing you objects, the objects are turning into beings and making other objects, these beings and objects, they jump into your chest - and then they jump back out. They jump into your body and disappear into your body, and then they jump back out, waving these things, just throwing this stuff in all directions. They are - the word that comes to mind is: they are Zany. It's like a Bugs Bunny cartoon, uh, gone mad. And all of this energy - they are elves. This is what elves are. It's this weird thing, where they love you - or they like you a lot, but you can tell that their sense of humor is Weird."

 

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Re: Brain Death & Sense of Time [Re: Nomad]
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Why is it that threads are allowed to stray so far off the original topic with tangential (at best) regurgitations?

Fug it.


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Re: Brain Death & Sense of Time [Re: Sclorch]
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I'm sorry  :laugh:

So, time. If you would completely lose your sense of time, your a priori concept of time, you would fully realize that there is only now, memories, and expectations. Nothing else, and you would fully understand that your memories are not necessarily how it has been, and that your expectations are not necessarily how it will be, and that all that is real is now. Sounds pretty enlightened to me. Poor old Kant, he never got that. 

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Re: Brain Death & Sense of Time [Re: Nomad]
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I'm thinking the next question would have to be...can you conciously experience an infinite amount of time? Or is it only during unconciousness that we fully lose our perception of time? For instance, during my first shroom trip, I took more than 4 grams and I got stuck in 'eternal moments' I guess you could call them. Now, while I was tripping (terrified) I told myself to try and remember what the moment felt like. But now, I can only remember myself reminding me to remember. And I don't think I can remember the moment itself.


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Re: Brain Death & Sense of Time [Re: Nomad]
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Not JUST your sense of time... all your senses (no input).

(assuming it can be independent of time and still function in a similar-enough manner)
Would your mind try to "create" a new universe via self-mapping?


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Re: Brain Death & Sense of Time [Re: Sclorch]
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Like in a sensory deprivation tank? Yes, you would hallucinate like hell. Then you would start talking to dolphins.

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Re: Brain Death & Sense of Time [Re: Sclorch]
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Doesn't your mind create THIS universe?


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Re: Brain Death & Sense of Time [Re: bert]
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Quote:
Alright, I have thought about this very question a lot. I had my own little theory about this. There's some theory in physics where two things can never fully reach each other. You can cut a distance by half an infinite amount of times and still never reach your destination.


This just got me thinking. I was going to try and disprove it but nevermind.. it just got too complex

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Re: Brain Death & Sense of Time [Re: ]
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Quote:
Who is under my Utah?


Heheh.

I'LL TELL YOU WHO

HAHAHHA

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Re: Brain Death & Sense of Time [Re: bert]
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What's a tyke, and how come Mr. Mushrooms knows we're getting closer?


In an older post someone pointed out my avatar was a tyke. So that is what a tyke is, seriously though that is what Terence Mckenna calls the entities people communicate with on DMT.

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Re: Brain Death & Sense of Time [Re: Sclorch]
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Not JUST your sense of time... all your senses (no input).

(assuming it can be independent of time and still function in a similar-enough manner)
Would your mind try to "create" a new universe via self-mapping?

what is a mind without senses? the mind could not create a new universe because the universe created the mind through the senses.

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Re: Brain Death & Sense of Time [Re: infidelGOD]
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what is a mind without senses? the mind could not create a new universe because the universe created the mind through the senses.

Can a man who has gone blind not still imagine a world of color?


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Re: Brain Death & Sense of Time [Re: Sclorch]
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ooooo very intriguing, Sclorch :smile:

I know a man who has gone blind, and he claims to still remember the colors and how things looked in 3d.


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Re: Brain Death & Sense of Time [Re: Sclorch]
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If he has gone blind, yes he will be able to imagine/remember the world of color.

Getting back to the original question:
what WOULD it be like if we lost our sense of time (global sensory loss is assumed)?

I'm sure you know what it's like. Haven't you experienced disassociation from reality?

meditation, drugs, sensory deprivation, near death experiences can all cause at least a partial detachment from the senses. maybe they give a glimpse of what it would be like.

just what is the mind without the senses?
stripped of any way of perceiving the universe, stripped of everything that gives us a sense of identity and individuality, what would be left?

nothing? something?

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Re: Brain Death & Sense of Time [Re: Sclorch]
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Well actually their is proof, DMT is found in the pineal gland and is released while you are alive and when you die. And if you had read the book DMT: The Spirit Molecule by Rick Strassman, you would find the answer to your question. You are wrong about "there isn't yet an answer."


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Re: Brain Death & Sense of Time [Re: FearAndLoathing]
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dude Strassman didn't PROVE any of that stuff, its all speculation :smile:

I just finished that book last night.


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Re: Brain Death & Sense of Time [Re: Strumpling]
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Hi, man that book you read is it any good? I'm asking because I was planning on ordering it on amazon.co.uk later this week.

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Re: Brain Death & Sense of Time [Re: FearAndLoathing]
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And if you had read the book...

Which page?
As a heteroabsolutist, I reserve the right to be wrong as well as the right to doubt that I'm not.


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