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Re: Are we all 100% completely selfish? [Re: RationalEgo]
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Thank you for clearing that up.

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Re: Are we all 100% completely selfish? [Re: RationalEgo]
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RationalEgo said:
Ahimsa said:
I may be wrong, but selfish people seek my company for their benefit, at my expense.
At least, that's how i see 100% selfish people.

Being among people and sharing each others presence for a collective benefit is totally different ballgame than those who only seek to exploit you. And that is what i mean by selfisness.



That is where you get your improper notion, selfishness should not imply that one expects others to sacrifice values to you disregarding moral conduct. It is one of those bromidal false dichotomies that forces you to accept the alternate as the good, in this case 'selflessness'. 

One values others becuase they are adding to your own enjoyment and happiness in life in a rational way. One can never gain happiness from exploiting others as those actions can never result in the necessary self-esteem to attain happiness. In fact immoral actions destroy self-esteem wherever a sacrifice is taking place.

Selflessness always holds as a standard a sacrifice of values to others. It is always improper and antithetical to ones own happiness to do anything out of a sense of 'selfless' duty divorced from reason and objective values. I would never befriend a person who considers selflessness the basis of moral action.

As I am not going to repeat myself please see my previous posts for clarification on what I mean by that.



I think you need to explain that stuff more.......


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Re: Are we all 100% completely selfish? [Re: andrewss]
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No, we aren't.

'Sacrifice.'
If we were all 100% completely selfish, then we wouldn't give up things of value for another's benefit.


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Re: Are we all 100% completely selfish? [Re: Cynosure]
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Does that argument hold a lot of weight? :haha:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Are we all 100% completely selfish? [Re: Poid]
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I fail to see why not, as I have experienced giving up something of personal value for a random person's benefit (with no positive outcome to my Self).  I have placed someone else's situation above my own.. thus, making me not 100% selfish.

Could you throw enough weight on it to break it?

Edited by Cynosure (10/28/09 08:18 PM)

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Re: Are we all 100% completely selfish? [Re: Cynosure]
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I have already thrown enough weight on it in this thread already. Your assumptions have been broken.

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Re: Are we all 100% completely selfish? [Re: Poid]
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Poid said:
:justdontknow:




:failboat:  But the photo in your sig is food for thought and  :eatingout:


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