doom876 said:

I mean, real religion, not fluffed over crap. That's what these compromisers try to do. Religion is the refuge of the weak minded and foolish.

Spirituality is a personal relationship with god, religion is dogma as layed out in books such as the bible. There is no reasoning behind it because, according to itself, it is true

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Poid said:

Everything that is communicated through language a theory; there needn't be words to explain how I know without a shadow of a doubt that the sky is sky-blue.

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Tedwilto said:

Also, we didnt evolve from monkeys. We had a common ancestor with monkeys.

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doom876 said:

Poid said:

Everything that is communicated through language a theory; there needn't be words to explain how I know without a shadow of a doubt that the sky is sky-blue.

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This is fluffy nonsense(like the "god created evolution" type ideas); I hate it when people try to make things abstract and complicate the simple. Everyone, watch out. No, the color blue is a label that we all know, the shy is in fact that label, so it's a fact that it is that color.

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doom876 said:

I hate it when people try to make things abstract and complicate the simple.

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I AM SWIM said:

If evolution is real, then why hasn't the concept of evolution evolved?

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AmericanPsycho said:

I AM SWIM said:

If evolution is real, then why hasn't the concept of evolution evolved?

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It has sorta, considering all the new fossils/data that has been recovered to back up the theory.

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then I got because the maker of this video has no knowledge of biology.

We aren't part of the Animal Kingdom? We share no similarities?

"Animals have several characteristics that set them apart from other living things. Animals are eukaryotic and usually multicellular[2] (although see Myxozoa), which separates them from bacteria and most protists. They are heterotrophic,[3] generally digesting food in an internal chamber, which separates them from plants and algae (some sponges are capable of photosynthesis and nitrogen fixation though).[4] They are also distinguished from plants, algae, and fungi by lacking cell walls.[5] All animals are motile,[6] if only at certain life stages. In most animals, embryos pass through a blastula stage, which is a characteristic exclusive to animals."

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal

We share ALL of those similarities with ALL other animals.

I hate this religious bullshit. Having faith in God is one thing but saying all scientific data is bullshit because "the Bible says so" is the height of human ignorance.

I AM SWIM said:

If evolution is real, then why hasn't the concept of evolution evolved?

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DragonChaser said:

doom876 said:

Well, they do conflict unless you cherry-pick what you believe in the bible, which in that case you are probably dumber then the hard core christian. (you're even dumber for not being able to see that certain things, like the coexistence of religion and science might be out of your limited mind's grasp) It's all or nothing (once again, a stupid belief, as very little about life is all or nothing), and I choose to believe the bible is BS.

Religion and science cannot co-exist in one mind (maybe your mind is just too small for both to fit inside it) because one is all knowing dogma and one is based on the knowledge that people gather through study!

You know what is more annoying then creationists, people who think that god created the big bang so they don't have to compromise! (wouldn't that be the simplest and most beautiful way he could create the universe?  with an explosion of matter directly from him, and letting the universe and life evolve on its own?  do you really expect everyone who believes in God to believe that he sat down like a potter with a wheel and formed every living creature, every planet, every single thing by hand?)

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I question your knowledge of religion.
Religion isn't about following a book, word for word.  Its about having a personal relationship with your God.  The book serves a purpose if you feel lost, or need guidance.

The Bible was written by ancient man.  Lets say that they were revealed the creation of the universe in visions from God.  How would they describe it?  They lacked knowledge of physics, chemistry, etc, so they would describe it in things they were familiar with.  They may describe the stages of the universes formation as "days", and seeing stars coalesce from gaseous matter would appear to them as God separating darkness from light.  Seeing the earth form would be the separation of the heavens and the earth.
The bible never says that God made man in his physical image, just "in our image", as in the image of he and the host of angels, and other creatures of spirit.  I've wondered if it just meant that man was the only creature bestowed a soul component, and thats what finally separated us from other primates.

There is a lot of room for interpretation in the bible than you might think.  You have to realize that it was written from ancient man's perspective, and try to look at it appropriately.


People have it in their heads that the idea behind creationism is that God created the universe and every living thing exactly the way it is, never changing.  How boring is that?  Would an all powerful being really do something so... simple, and boring?

Or would it all start with an unimaginable bang, followed by countless of unbelievably complex and beautiful processes over billions of years, matter coalescing into planets and stars, and in some areas, lifeless matter somehow becoming amino acids, and then simple life, finally culminating (in one small part of our galaxy) in a small green and blue planet with an amazingly complex system of life living on it.

Which one is more worthy of a God?

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very well stated. not only was the bible written from the perspective of ancient man, but also modern man has taken the bible and taken things out, put things in, and change things in it already. anyone who thinks its all or nothing just makes me