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chinacat72
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#1782862 - 08/05/03 06:53 PM (23 years, 19 days ago)

Thats what I was trying to say. People just have different points of view. I think the scientific view is great and is what I use to make alot of observations regarding the physical world we live in. When it comes to the spiritual world the scientific view doesn't cut it for me. I believe in the magic of LSD whether Its provable or not. My experiances are my guide in the spiritual realm.

I have nothing against the scientific approach to life. As a person making the choice between med school or psychology grad school I realize the value of the scientific method. I use it every day in research. It is the search for the truth about reality.
My chioce to become a psychologist or psychiatrist is solely for the purpose of helping with research in the value of psychedelics. I have seen so many people overcome mental problems with LSD. This leads me to my 20 year quest to validate the psychedelic experiance. It used to be turning on the underground with LSD and saying fuck society. Now I have come to the point were I believe that the only true way to validate the psychedelic experiance is through the medical community. There is research from the old days(before LSD was sceduale 1) that shows the potential of psychedelics in treating certian mental disorders(esspecially addiction). There is also a movement from in the medical communty itself in showing intrest in psychedelics. We have studys underway right now in the US. These studys have the potential to show the safty and promise of psychedelics and make it easier for future research that studys the benifit of psychedelics theraputically(were I believe the real benifits are).
Its a longshot ,but something I believe in enough to dedicate my life to.
By proving validity through the medical community it's proved through science. By proving it though science it gives it power over the politics that currently hold it hostage.

I'm not talking about proving LSD can provide mystical experiance through science. I don't think science is capable of that. What I do think is provable is that people who take LSD under the right conditions have an experiance that can have a long lasting ,positive and life enriching experiance.

We all have different points of view on the world and especially drugs. I'm just trying to give you an idea of were mine comes from.

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Phencyclidine
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#1783031 - 08/05/03 08:22 PM (23 years, 19 days ago)

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chinacat72 said: I'm not talking about proving LSD can provide mystical experiance through science. I don't think science is capable of that. What I do think is provable is that people who take LSD under the right conditions have an experiance that can have a long lasting ,positive and life enriching experiance.

We all have different points of view on the world and especially drugs. I'm just trying to give you an idea of were mine comes from.

I think we're pretty much in complete agreement. I understand mysticism but I'm just someone who won't talk about it with other people. AFAIK, the definition of mysticism makes anything mystical out of the realm of science. To me, mystical experiences simply aren't as obvious as other people claim they are, so I refuse to touch them, generally.

It's interesting that you want to be a psychologist or psychiatrist. My past use of psychedelics and my interest in mental illness has led me to studying pharmaceuticals. I'd like to research mental illness and develop antipsychotic drugs.

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#1783134 - 08/05/03 08:54 PM (23 years, 19 days ago)

Yo Bitches; :devil:

My dude has fractals; :devil:

Come into my world; :devil:

Come follow the light; :devil:

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