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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: unretarded]
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is that jethro tull or some shit???


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"I celebrate the Earth, my home, my mother, my grave, and as long as men are Man they must, if they would preserve the integrated being, do the same---[and preserve]--this rank casual hungry smelly sweaty lusting transitory body, my oozy pulpy liquid-bag-swollen body, bones, blood, hair glands, my bejeweled sex; I love and celebrate it all.  never to let men forget that they are animals as much as gods---that is one thing I shall say."

  Edward Abbey

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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: Almond Flour]
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IMO this guy would go to Heaven for the same reason that little children too young to understand that they have committed sin and need a savior to cleanse them of it go to Heaven.

Here is an interesting link that pertains to this pretty well I think: Link

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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: Almond Flour]
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Show me this man and then I'll answer your question. :smirk:

Hypothetical situations are no where near realistic.


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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: unretarded]
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If you believe in any form of a conscious omnipotent being that has an agenda for the human race, based on morals and ideologies.  You are a deluded person who has read one too many fair tales.  I'm not trying to offend anyone, but come on!  That is just ridiculous.


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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: hpi]
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hpi said:
I'm sorry but people who believe in God have NO sense of understanding.


Understanding what? How hard is it to understand nothing and hopelessness?

vs. Purpose and Growth


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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: hawksapprentice]
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hawksapprentice said:
is that jethro tull or some shit???


Yep ,it sure is.


Here is one titled ....My God.




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I love our leaders and the feds ,they are great people and the laws they make help us!:rofl2:

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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: Almond Flour]
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The bible says yes, but Christians distort it to fit their purposes and most of them would say no.


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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: CokedUpHobit64]
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CokedUpHobit64 said:
The bible says yes


Which part?


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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: Silversoul]
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"There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day." (John 12:48)



"He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life."
(1 John 5:12)


"And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven."(Matthew:18:3)


"He that believeth on Him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
(John 3:18)


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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: CokedUpHobit64]
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Good work.  But there's also these verses:

"He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world." (1 John 2:2)

"For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive." (1 Corinthians 15:22)

"Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men. For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous." (Romans 5:18-19)

"Give thanks to the LORD, for he is good; his love endures forever." (Psalm 106:1)

"one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all." (Ephesians 4:6)


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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: unretarded]
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I also have a difficult time not becoming angry when i hear the "accept jesus or burn in hell" angle. It seems so Medieval!!! Scare tactic 100%

A god that would punish eternally with no chance for redemption is NOT the all loving God that the Hebrews believe in. In fact, he would be a legalistic, sadistic, conniving bastard.

Honestly, its fucked up man! I don't understand it at all anymore!

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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: SonOfLiberty]
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That view of hell is from the 17th century book Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God.

It's an interpretation that scared people into believing and in turn caused others to use scare tactics for others to believe because they were so insecure about their own beliefs that they needed to push it on people to validate their own selfish motives behind it.

I'm willing to bet the author got or will get his lashes for that if Jesus is truly who he says he was.

God's word(the Bible) has been twisted around throughout the centuries.

And no one just decided to put the Bible together one day, it started with ancient manuscripts handed down for millenniums. The old testament was the originals passed down in Aramaic and translated in to Hebrew over time, and the new testament was mostly letters to churches(bodies of believers) shortly after Jesus' death and supposed resurrection. And it was mostly in Greek(hence polytheism was much later than Hebrew culture.)

It wasn't until the invention of the print press that it was made into a conveniently enclosed and easily discernible book with the letters and ancient stories as chapters.

It amazes me how unfounded half of the people around here have such unfounded hatred toward Christianity when I bet none of them even knew those simple facts.

Yeah, And I'm the one who doesn't understand...


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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: DR. PRIME]
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God is very real, and the true treasure in this world is getting to know Him.

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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: Almond Flour]
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Yes, there is hope for the man's salvation by way of Baptism of desire

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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: AroundtheSon]
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AroundtheSon said:
God is very real, and the true treasure in this world is getting to know Him.


Your a fucken idiot, I'm sorry but it's true.

Why don't you go learn about the stars and the universe instead?


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Tohu Tehom Theli Than Leviathan Tanin'iver Taninsam!
Tohu Tehom Theli Than Leviathan Tanin'iver Taninsam!

There exists one lie that is the absolute worst. A lie that has successfully infiltrated many of the Western governments. This lie is Christianity, and it must be fought in every way, shape and form. Burn the churches and kill the priests. The abomination that is Christianity must be wiped from this Earth.





4-Methyl-Aminorex

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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: hpi]
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Oh, and what would you know about the stars and the universe? please do tell...

I doubt it will be anything most of us haven't heard before from actual scientists, and not some stoner on a message board.


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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: hpi]
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hpi said:
Your a fucken idiot, I'm sorry but it's true.


Great argument there, chief! :thumbup:


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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: hpi]
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lol :hug:

your not sorry. :smirk:

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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: hpi]
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Such amazing critical analysis of facts. :thumbup: How could we ever doubt you? :tongue:


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Edited by DR. PRIME (01/29/09 10:14 PM)

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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: hpi]
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Atheism is as retarded a religion as any other religion.


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