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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: schoolOnCid]
    #7579980 - 10/31/07 09:51 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It's wonderful that you finally found your road to the Divine.

Please don't overshoot the mark by becoming a closed-minded Christian, like so many are.

The Divine Force has a path for all of us that is highly personal and relevant.

Like it has brought you to the Bible, it has brought me to the Mushroom. Will we stay here or evolve beyond it? God knows, and he knows best.

Please don't disrespect other peoples paths by saying yours is the ONLY way.

Not only is that rude, but I got my pepperspray with me :wink:


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: schoolOnCid]
    #7580008 - 10/31/07 10:02 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yeah the best advice I can give to someone who recently found religion is KEEP IT TO YOUR DAMN SELF. Otherwise you just come off as another zealot.

Its great that you found a code to live by. Now focus on keeping your feet on that path. Don't worry about what other people are doing.

My mother is a devout Christian, but the way she sees it, thats her choice and it only applies to her. She doesn't hold others to her personal standards, and accepts the fact that others might see things differently. She never pushes her beliefs on anyone, even me, and I respect the hell out of her for that, even though I'm not Christian.

The best way to convert followers is to set an example with your own behavior, not telling everyone else what to do and believe.


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: wps]
    #7580215 - 10/31/07 11:05 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

you had no buissness taking any phychadelic if these are the conclusions you drew from taking them.
nic post. thanks for sharing. but you miessed the point. alot, throughout the whole peice. if your a christian hey, more power to you, but this reads like a recruiting letter more then ann actual personal event


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: notapillow]
    #7580225 - 10/31/07 11:09 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

god damn your post is self serving.
you learned jack fucking shit

you diddnt learn avout your ego, relations, your job, reposibilities, or family. you just learned that if you get to scared you can always hide you face behind an invisible parental figure and hold out untill death.
learn somthing, then share
dont act so damn dumb, cus honestly i liek people with your pespective on the counter culture. but your post is ego dribbled tripe :rainbowcloud:


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: notapillow]
    #7580233 - 10/31/07 11:11 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

:whistling:


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: blackfir]
    #7580248 - 10/31/07 11:17 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

what mental issues did you have?

looks like you weren't getting into psychedelics for answers but out of spite and rebellion - this is a normal and typical progression from childhood to puberty but puberty passes. then, when you were unable to experience psychedelics besides the novelty value (hey look at those funny hallucinations haha lol) you took to the next best thing and chose to submit to an ego figure that you need to govern yourself.


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: notapillow]
    #7580259 - 10/31/07 11:21 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

"tho oposite of homosexuality is holyness"


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: usefulidiot13]
    #7580261 - 10/31/07 11:21 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i knew it was only a matter of time before the christains invaded this site, i made 2 threads prob about a year ago, in a nutshell i had a plan that would fix the world.

We MUST fight fire with fire, We MUST invade the churches and spread OUR knowledge to them.

Covertly of course, start out looking for god, then slowly release our wisdom onto them, purhaps from the front of the room if your "good enough" for that position.

I feel, we do need to look to jeses christ as our savor :hellfire:


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7580268 - 10/31/07 11:23 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yeah you have alot of questions left unanswered here buddy.
your talking to alot of people who are just as serious about being "holy" as you. but we dont use churches and youtube and bake sales to try and get other people to join us. we just listen to the dirt. and you know what? it gives better advise then any book ever wrighten. be it bible or go dog go


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: notapillow]
    #7580287 - 10/31/07 11:27 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

check out his youtubeness. its pretty fucking entertaining.



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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: notapillow]
    #7580298 - 10/31/07 11:29 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

we havent had a good christian crusaid on the sight in a year or so if i rmemeber right


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: notapillow]
    #7580306 - 10/31/07 11:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #7580309 - 10/31/07 11:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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makaveli8x8 said:
i knew it was only a matter of time before the christains invaded this site, i made 2 threads prob about a year ago, in a nutshell i had a plan that would fix the world.

We MUST fight fire with fire, We MUST invade the churches and spread OUR knowledge to them.

Covertly of course, start out looking for god, then slowly release our wisdom onto them, purhaps from the front of the room if your "good enough" for that position.

I feel, we do need to look to jeses christ as our savor :hellfire:



no no
we dont need to do that.


then we are repeatign the smae prosses.

we just gotta be
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live to learn and grown and rot


thats all there is to the game
its not hard. no secrest coads or hidden meaning


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: usefulidiot13]
    #7580431 - 10/31/07 11:53 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

so....did all of you people just ignore everything that i said? it certainly sounds like it, so im going to post it again, then perhaps you will all put some consideration into it and not be completely blind to what i said. it's almost as if you skipped over my last post.

so many people misunderstand the truth that is of Christ. Christianity is not the issue here, christianity is a man made system of belief and dogma, But christ is the really real. The question one needs to ask is "who/what is christ". christ is love, light, life, and truth. Christ is the creative principle. What is love, what one recognizes as love, is who christ is, what one recognizes as being really 'ALIVE' is Christ, what one recognizes and understanding and clarity (light, as opposed to "darkness, metaphorically speaking), is who christ it, and the beauty of created order, as opposed to chaotic out-of-controlness, is who christ is. Christ is what is TRUE humanness, which is DIVINE, and we are all truely one, and oneness is by a christic connectedness. And the basis of understanding, of true life is the loos of ego, it is the death of the self and oneness the divine personhood. but the problem is, the we have forgotten how to be one, we have forgotten truth, we have forgotten how to live, and in our arrogance we devise futile methods which we believe will lift us from the slump of the ugliness that seems to pevade the world (dont get me wrong though, for there is intense beauty around us, despite genocide, starvation, and human calousness), but which actually perpetuates our destructive path, and this is what our ego does to us, or insatiable perception of self importance. this needs to be curbed to find out what is truely true and really real. and this is what christ is, and it is true that this is the way to peace (i use the word "what" in order to de-anthropomorphise the reality of christ, {though christ is person}, because the personhood of christ i think confuses people and destract them from the WAY of christ). i hope that this perhaps gives some understanding. also, those that are attempting oneness with the Christ, with the way, with peace, are still human people, and human afflictions are inevitable. one does not become a man of knowledge the instant he decides to learn, he must unlearn what he thinks he knows, and gradually, and the harder he works and the more serious he is about this undertaking, he will break free from ignorance and come closer to knowledge. the same is true for thoe that long to reclaim the divinity first given to them. not only that, lots of the people that claim to be "christian" are merely adherents to some religion, and are not necessarily seekers of the Christ.

now do you understand what im saying? in this sense, im sure that even people whoe 'hate christianity' are in reality in harmony with the christic persona. this is wht "christianity (for lack of a better term) actually, not a system, not a religion, not a dogma, not churchiness. in this sense, buddhists, new-agers, alchemists etc. can be harmonized with the christ, and yet not necessarily realize where their harmony lies, know what i mean?


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: notapillow]
    #7580442 - 10/31/07 11:55 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I think you're barking up the wrong tree here buddy. Not only did you offend half the people on this sight with your incredibly egotistical statement that "meditation comes from the dark side", but you also assumed that people on this site are non religious and need to be "taught" the glory of God. Most people here are very faithful, especially those who have found faith by being an individual. We certainly don't need you to help us.

A couple of problems I have with what you just said:

You told us not to look for God inside of ourselves. Personally, I think that Faith is found in yourself, creation is found in your soul, Christ is the spirit of compassion and creation that can only be found in the magic of the spirit. You look outside yourself for some abstract figure of GOD, you're only hiding from yourself and your own wisdom. Don't tell people where to find their spirituality. Your ego is astounding. I can't believe you're not sitting around somewhere drawing pictures of yourself and plastering them around the local churches. You haven't achieved anything except the newfound glorification of your own egotistical mindset.

You started this thread by saying you were looking for help with psychological problems. Your post is further proof that people WITH PSYCHOLOGICAL PROBLEMS should not take hallucinogens. Did you do ANY research before you ingested a mind altering substance? If you had you would have known that contact with hallucinogens by the psychologically disturbed can produce profound and lasting delusions, in your case delusions of grandeur. Shit, even the DEA's website would have told you that.

But whatever, the mainstream Christian community is chock full of morons and sheep, I'm sure the smart and loving people there can tolerate another one. People around here are interested in intelligent, respectful discussion, and since you can't offer intelligent, respectful discussion about spirituality, you will largely be ignored.

I found an upside to your post! You're not hanging around girls, so your chances of reproducing are relatively low.

BTW, you totally sound like a narc sent here to sniff around by some sort of Christian backed police force. Maybe that's just the paranoia talking, but there it is.


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: bbaeker]
    #7580447 - 10/31/07 11:56 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

thanks for posting that i actually did skip over that, but im still not going to read it.....not yet anyway


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: bbaeker]
    #7580460 - 10/31/07 11:57 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i can say confidently that christ never wanted any of this.

christ smart dude

you not so much.



the WAy of christ is kindness compassion and humble acceptace of fait.
this was not really new at the time of christ. peple had been preaching similer if not exactly the same thing for millenia.



ego. is the only barrior in this discussion.



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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: notapillow]
    #7580469 - 10/31/07 11:59 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

no good hearte dpersonl hates christianity, or anything else for that matter. you came inb here trying to spark some kind of contovercy, but yourr not even doing that well.
at leased say that we are all homos and we are gonna burn in hell


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: bbaeker]
    #7580477 - 10/31/07 12:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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so....did all of you people just ignore everything that i said? it certainly sounds like it, so im going to post it again, then perhaps you will all put some consideration into it and not be completely blind to what i said. it's almost as if you skipped over my last post.

so many people misunderstand the truth that is of Christ. Christianity is not the issue here, christianity is a man made system of belief and dogma, But christ is the really real. The question one needs to ask is "who/what is christ". christ is love, light, life, and truth. Christ is the creative principle. What is love, what one recognizes as love, is who christ is, what one recognizes as being really 'ALIVE' is Christ, what one recognizes and understanding and clarity (light, as opposed to "darkness, metaphorically speaking), is who christ it, and the beauty of created order, as opposed to chaotic out-of-controlness, is who christ is. Christ is what is TRUE humanness, which is DIVINE, and we are all truely one, and oneness is by a christic connectedness. And the basis of understanding, of true life is the loos of ego, it is the death of the self and oneness the divine personhood. but the problem is, the we have forgotten how to be one, we have forgotten truth, we have forgotten how to live, and in our arrogance we devise futile methods which we believe will lift us from the slump of the ugliness that seems to pevade the world (dont get me wrong though, for there is intense beauty around us, despite genocide, starvation, and human calousness), but which actually perpetuates our destructive path, and this is what our ego does to us, or insatiable perception of self importance. this needs to be curbed to find out what is truely true and really real. and this is what christ is, and it is true that this is the way to peace (i use the word "what" in order to de-anthropomorphise the reality of christ, {though christ is person}, because the personhood of christ i think confuses people and destract them from the WAY of christ). i hope that this perhaps gives some understanding. also, those that are attempting oneness with the Christ, with the way, with peace, are still human people, and human afflictions are inevitable. one does not become a man of knowledge the instant he decides to learn, he must unlearn what he thinks he knows, and gradually, and the harder he works and the more serious he is about this undertaking, he will break free from ignorance and come closer to knowledge. the same is true for thoe that long to reclaim the divinity first given to them. not only that, lots of the people that claim to be "christian" are merely adherents to some religion, and are not necessarily seekers of the Christ. 

now do you understand what im saying? in this sense, im sure that even people whoe 'hate christianity' are in reality in harmony with the christic persona. this is wht "christianity (for lack of a better term) actually, not a system, not a religion, not a dogma, not churchiness. in this sense, buddhists, new-agers, alchemists etc. can be harmonized with the christ, and yet not necessarily realize where their harmony lies, know what i mean?



i have not forgotten shit :grin:
thats why i use dmt
ill talke my sermon through a freebase pipe anyday :smile:


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: bbaeker]
    #7580481 - 10/31/07 12:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

it seems that you're ignoring what sactually being said, and are just bringing what you think you know about what christ is into the converstion, like i said, unlearn. (im also speaking to the guy that posted this in the first place. and i think i agree with a lot of you, but that's beside the point. the point i am trying to make is that most of the things that all of us value, ego dissolution, love peace, harmony, truth, uprightness and the like, these things ARE what christ is, and not just something that we do)


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