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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: Silversoul]
    #7582745 - 11/01/07 12:42 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

fuck religion - i love tripping. end of story


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: blkjkrabbit]
    #7582751 - 11/01/07 12:48 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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blkjkrabbit said:
fuck religion - i love tripping. end of story



The two kind of go together for me.


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: Silversoul]
    #7582755 - 11/01/07 12:51 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

it all goes together
go figure
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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: notapillow]
    #7582771 - 11/01/07 01:01 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

bye bye silly games:vineclimb:


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: notapillow]
    #7582953 - 11/01/07 04:28 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

This isn't really pointed at anybody., more of a disgruntled rant - but Im sick of hearing about peoples miraculous transformations because of GOD.

I work in a place where we help a population that comes from bad backgrounds, and a lot of them convert to some sort of organized religion while in prison/rehab, etc.

I think religion is just another drug, and my theory is proved time and again, when the ones who are all hopped up on the christ, have a bad situation, and jump right back on the drugs.

Also, going to church is not a get out of jail free card to do and say what ever you want. Some of the meanest, nastiest people at my job are also the most "god fearing" and they really just don't get it.

God doesn't change you, YOU change you.
ah well.

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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: usefulidiot13]
    #7582963 - 11/01/07 04:45 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

haha christianity is the biggest LOL religion i can think of.


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: Oracle Of Delphi]
    #7582965 - 11/01/07 04:46 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I dont get why the original poster got all sorts of bad ratings. It was clearly an opinion piece, intended to presuade people to accept christianity. It wasn't poorly written...

It just seems like some people knowingly clicked on a thread advocating a certain life path for the purpose of poo-pooing on that path

I'm not sure I really got anything out of the op's thread, but it was somewhat interesting, and certainly as advertised. While not exactly an original opinion, it certainly espouses a view not too many on these boards have.


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: johnm214]
    #7582984 - 11/01/07 05:10 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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It just seems like some people knowingly clicked on a thread advocating a certain life path for the purpose of poo-pooing on that path




It'd be the same if someone was preaching worship of Odin, Allah, or Hitler. You can be as virtuous and as kind hearted as you like, but that doesn't detract from the fact you're associated with a hateful doctrine that preaches violence towards others and bigotry.

That's why I don't like this guy. That and he's dissing on psychedelics. They can't show you the way, but they can open the door. Some people, in awe of what they see, can't figure out how to go through it, or trip up.


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: schoolOnCid]
    #7583002 - 11/01/07 05:43 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Congrats you've been brainwashed?

God spoke to me too, he said smoke some pot and live life.


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: Shroomism]
    #7583005 - 11/01/07 05:48 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

hey, God spoke to me too!! what a coincidence!

he told me to stop reading the original post after the first paragraph. i'm glad i listen to God. he's all-knowing after all. :smirk:


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: schoolOnCid]
    #7583057 - 11/01/07 06:46 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

when i die, i want to go where ever gandhi got to go. if you are christian, you believe gandhi went to hell. if he doesnt get to go to heaven, there is no reason i should get to go.


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: Visionary Tools]
    #7583741 - 11/01/07 11:45 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Visionary Tools said:
You can be as virtuous and as kind hearted as you like, but that doesn't detract from the fact you're associated with a hateful doctrine that preaches violence towards others and bigotry.



You're judging him on preconceived notions of what Christianity is about, rather than what he's actually saying?  Excellent.

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That and he's dissing on psychedelics. They can't show you the way, but they can open the door.



So, in addition, he's also saying something that conflicts with your personal beliefs, and must suffer as a heretic.

Bravo! :congrats:


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: Silversoul]
    #7583807 - 11/01/07 12:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

A) dont force opinions
B) Why come to the shroomery boards to force opinions. We people dont need your guidance really.


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: schoolOnCid]
    #7583906 - 11/01/07 12:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

when i die i want to be worm food, seriously. i have passed on my genes already and give them right direction in life before i die,. when i completed that i can die as a happy man knowing that my life had purpose and it was good. If religion is what makes your life makes sense, thats good for you. Religion for me would be like waking a path of illusions . I dint get that religion trip or we are all connected trip , my trips focus on nature and its system and how perfect it is, how life and death is perfect and how our ego is just a playground for thoughts in this life. I see the beauty in evolution and any thought that makes me think about there is higher powers or such makes that whole system of beauty I see in nature it makes it not so perfect if that was the case.. I have thought about it alot and I found out that how I see the world is the only way for me to make the world make sense. Life is great


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: GbBaker]
    #7584013 - 11/01/07 12:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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GbBaker said:
A) dont force opinions
B) Why come to the shroomery boards to force opinions. We people dont need your guidance really.



Care to explain the difference between forcing an opinion and sharing an opinion? Or is it just forcing an opinion because you disagree with it?


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: Asante]
    #7584158 - 11/01/07 01:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I actually do believe in Jesus, as being a real human, I believe in the light and love. I believe he was probably a really good man. Just like many of us all are. But I also believe it's a tool. When the truth speaks through masses there is then untruth. Find universal truths within your own self, not for the sake of belonging to a group.

Look at what religion has done to people throughout history. It persecuted us for being human, It's added governments and countries to rally the masses.

It's always changing face to follow the time. I believe in the power the creation, i believe we are the power of creation. We are the ones that make it and break it, just like mushrooms in a way. I try to follow heart my heart.


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: Cheezit]
    #7584697 - 11/01/07 04:40 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The other day at a Phil and friends show I was minding my own business jamming out on djembe, some guys came and sat down next to me. They wanted to know all my views on religion/spirituality and god etc. Not being a complete asshole, I shared with them my views based on my life experiences. They then proceeded to tell me how my personal spirituality was wrong and how jesus was the only way to heaven. It didn't matter that I told them I was raised in a Christian household, baptised at the age of 5, and had probably read and memorized more of the Bible than they had.. I was a sinner. I then told them why people like them are the entire reason I was turned off from the religion in the first place and that self-righteous attitude is exactly what made me despise it.

God is in all things, god is everything and everyone. There is no one true path to God as all paths are relative and subjective based on your experiences. What is real is love, and treating people with respect. Religion is just a lot of bullshit designed to control people's minds for the most part. See: Chrisianity and the Crusades.


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: Shroomism]
    #7584809 - 11/01/07 05:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I try to look at the individual rather than the religion. If I meet a Muslim, I'm not going to automatically think that they're sponsoring Al Qaeda. Similarly within Christianity, I've met a wide range of people. And I'm not even just talking about different denominations. Even among different people within a certain set of beliefs, there are different ways they live out those beliefs.

At my old job, there was a guy who you might call "born again," but he never shoved his beliefs down people's throats. He had T-shirts and bumper stickers expressing his faith in Christ, and I heard him listening to gay-ass Christian music in his car, but never tried to preach to us.

Even among those that preach to people, there are differences. There are the ones who tell you that you're wrong and you're going to hell, and then there are there ones that are like "This is Christ did for me, and he can do it for you too." You may remember a former member of Korn, Brian "Head" Welch, who became born again. I happened to hear an interview with him on the radio in which he expressed that he had no hate for gays or for different religions. For him it was all about the love, and I think you'll find it's the same for a lot of Christians.

I think the problem is that people tend to remember the assholes, and then when someone else talks to them about Christianity, it triggers a Pavlovian response in which that person is immediately lumped together with those assholes.


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: Shroomism]
    #7584897 - 11/01/07 05:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I personally don't believe in any of that, nor do I carry disdain for people who do. None of us can concretely explain why we're here, or if we truly have some ultimate purpose beyond reproducing. Seeing as nobody can explain our meaning, not even the religious nuts, I say: LET'S PARTY. Who gives a damn if people do drugs or engage in activities that are unholy? People can still be good and kind-hearted, even if they don't follow God's word - even if they do drugs or commit sins. This forum is proof of that.

If I were God, I'd make judgements based on how people lived their lives, not how skilled they were at sucking my ethereal wang.

If God is expecting us to figure him out before time's up and drops us into Hell if we don't succeed, then that's... fucked up. On that note, assuming God was a proven entity, I'd have a hard time following somebody who throws you into a firey pit for eternity if you disobey them. That seems pretty tyrannical, to me.

To me, it's all just hysteria. People still claim to have seen Elvis Presley at local gas stations. Same concept. It's easy to believe what you want to, and thus make yourself see what you want to.


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: schoolOnCid]
    #7584921 - 11/01/07 05:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

It's always gonna be sour grapes with you, til you get right by Jesus.


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