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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: Silversoul]
    #7584977 - 11/01/07 05:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

People can believe whatever they want - I'm not going to judge them for it. Practice whatever your religion and mind your own business, you're cool with me. It's when people start preaching about how their religion is the ONLY right religion, and start trying to shove their beliefs down your throat, when I get offended. I don't have a problem with christianity per se.. but some christians yeah.


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: Shroomism]
    #7584981 - 11/01/07 05:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

how was phil shroomism :gdicon: ?


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: notapillow]
    #7584982 - 11/01/07 05:47 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

It was amazing :hippie:
Although.. Trey was there all night long..


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: Shroomism]
    #7584987 - 11/01/07 05:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

really you went to gelns falls.
i was thinkign of buying that shw, i dont midn trey with phil, on a good night he shreds it.
i heard he did good and made up for an under the weater jackie greene
any highlights?
worth getting a soundboard?


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: DonkeyShell]
    #7584995 - 11/01/07 05:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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It's always gonna be sour grapes with you, til you get right by Jesus.






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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: notapillow]
    #7585010 - 11/01/07 05:54 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yeah Im actually in glens falls.. it was kind of weird for me they kept switching between phish and dead.. phish and dead.. phish and dead.. was like a rollercoaster. But yeah they still tore it up.. worth getting a soundboard imo


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: Shroomism]
    #7585014 - 11/01/07 05:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

really i diddnt see any phish tunes in the set lise
sept shine
the trey album title track
if you wanna call that a phish song


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: notapillow]
    #7585034 - 11/01/07 06:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

You don't have to convince us to pray or find ''God''.

God can be me, you, Him, It, All.
He is within anything, he is within us.
God, or All?

You may believe in apples, I believe in chocolate.
Different strokes for different folks.


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: Justice_Fish]
    #7585044 - 11/01/07 06:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

oh god do i luv choclate. i just finished off the remaining of our halloween candy.


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: Shroomism]
    #7586202 - 11/02/07 12:07 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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People can believe whatever they want - I'm not going to judge them for it. Practice whatever your religion and mind your own business, you're cool with me. It's when people start preaching about how their religion is the ONLY right religion, and start trying to shove their beliefs down your throat, when I get offended. I don't have a problem with christianity per se.. but some christians yeah.




How do you then accept that all religions and deity worship asks their followers to spread and convert all the heathens?

I see great great harm in deity worship and only will we truly evolve as beings when we wake up from the silliness of mysticism and theistic belief.


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: Thor]
    #7586210 - 11/02/07 12:10 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I see great great harm in deity worship and only will we truly evolve as beings when we wake up from the silliness of mysticism and theistic belief.



Sounds like the statement of a true believer.


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: Silversoul]
    #7586217 - 11/02/07 12:14 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Thor said:
I see great great harm in deity worship and only will we truly evolve as beings when we wake up from the silliness of mysticism and theistic belief.



Sounds like the statement of a true believer.




Amen.


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: Thor]
    #7586623 - 11/02/07 05:25 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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How do you then accept that all religions and deity worship asks their followers to spread and convert all the heathens?




That isn't true. When was the last time a Jew or Buddhist came up to you and tried to get you to convert?


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: Seuss]
    #7586640 - 11/02/07 05:52 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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How do you then accept that all religions and deity worship asks their followers to spread and convert all the heathens?




That isn't true. When was the last time a Jew or Buddhist came up to you and tried to get you to convert?




agreed. There is a difference between the practices of a religous/spiritual group and the religion itself, as set out through its texts.

There exist plenty of religions that don't advocate unwelcome advances on anyone, especially in christianity. Many of these denominations live near me... good people, live and let live mentality.

People seem to jump on the anti-christianity bandwagon for the sins of the christians, not the sins of christianity.


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: johnm214]
    #7586653 - 11/02/07 06:06 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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agreed. There is a difference between the practices of a religous/spiritual group and the religion itself, as set out through its texts.

There exist plenty of religions that don't advocate unwelcome advances on anyone, especially in christianity. Many of these denominations live near me... good people, live and let live mentality.

People seem to jump on the anti-christianity bandwagon for the sins of the christians, not the sins of christianity.




yes but they all have the same bible,
if people are allowed to pick and choose from the bible the creates a climate that allows every kind of christian extremism possible(be it world domination, or murder of abortion clinic workers)

There is no way to separate the two; yes there is nothing wrong with this wishy-washy type of christianity but it allows every nut with a bible to have his own personal agenda become specifically respected for the sole reason that he can claim it is part of his religion.


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: druqs]
    #7586668 - 11/02/07 06:16 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

All I'm saying is that their are a number of christian denominations that follow the good parts of the bible and preach decent idles, such as nonviolence, acceptance, and charity. While these groups may not follow the bible word-for-word, as their is all sorts of contradictory shit in the old testament, it seems to be a positive influence on their lives.

people identifying themselves christians are no more responsible for the actions of others as are we for the death of that kid who killed himself while others encouraged him on the IRC

check out the menonite and amish perspective and practices... seem pretty accepting and progresive in alot of ways


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: johnm214]
    #7586675 - 11/02/07 06:24 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yeah the new testament, specifically the teachings by jesus such as non violence are an acceptable part of the bible, but why only take these specifics and turn them into a religion? every sane person knows the difference between right and wrong...

i wounder if amish kids would still choose the life they lead having been given both options...

some one killed themselves on the shroomery IRC?


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: druqs]
    #7586686 - 11/02/07 06:34 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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i wounder if amish kids would still choose the life they lead having been given both options...






They do have both options, that's what I mean about it being somewhat progressive, well, that and the fact that they don't demean those outside of their faith, and they don't baptise at birth... you have to make your own decision as to whether you accept the religion at around your late teens (same w/ menonites)- so your not "pushed" into anything prior to you really being able to decide.

The amish get a year or so to go out on their own prior to commiting themselves to the church. During this time they leave the community and may live as a non-amish. At the end of this time they decide whether they wish to commit to the church. If so, they are accepted, baptised, et cet.

Better then most religions that force infants to be baptised

Here's a link on the practice (from google cache as I can't get wikipedia to work right now)

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:xlIc_A48jOcJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumspringa+Rumspringa&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: johnm214]
    #7586689 - 11/02/07 06:38 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yeah thats pretty true i guess,

they should ask jew kids at birth if they want their foreskin though... :tongue2: :thumbup:


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Re: From high to MOST HIGH, my journey from drugs to Christianity [Re: johnm214]
    #7586732 - 11/02/07 07:08 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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All I'm saying is that their are a number of christian denominations that follow the good parts of the bible and preach decent idles, such as nonviolence, acceptance, and charity. While these groups may not follow the bible word-for-word, as their is all sorts of contradictory shit in the old testament, it seems to be a positive influence on their lives.

people identifying themselves christians are no more responsible for the actions of others as are we for the death of that kid who killed himself while others encouraged him on the IRC

check out the menonite and amish perspective and practices... seem pretty accepting and progresive in alot of ways




I have no qualms with the quakers. If someone said that the earth was created when a god took a massive dump and spun it into the solar system, I would have no problem with that.

What I would have is someone coming to me, saying that believing in their big pile of steaming shit is the truth, and that my life is not complete without accepting it, or if I dare to criticise their fiction, I am not being respectful to their beliefs!

Well fuck me. If someone wants to believe that fire is cold and that drinking mercury is good for you, should I respect their beliefs? If someone says christianity is the one path to salvation, and I find it utterly disgusting due to all the evil, nasty shit in it, then I'm an intolerant bastard. At least I'm not malicious, or actively trying to attack people physically because my "beliefs" (or thinly disguised intolerance, with the guise of religion as an excuse) compel me to.


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