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Re: I suck at shoplifting [Re: SleepyF0x]
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A lot of your posts are case related. There are plenty of companies doing good things. And yes, plenty of companies doing bad things like this thread has pointed out. But corporations are nowhere near inherently evil.

As for your thirst quencher question, yes you were stealing. That was that guy's water and he didn't ask for any smelly ass bums sticking their tongue in his shit. He would most likely understand if he caught you, that doesn't mean you weren't stealing.


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Re: I suck at shoplifting [Re: Irdamage]
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you mofos stressed out my thread...  fuck you


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Re: I suck at shoplifting [Re: lexmark]
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you got away tho, right?


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Re: I suck at shoplifting [Re: WhiskeyClone]
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WhiskeyClone said:
KrishnaDreamer said:
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Why should they do that??  They have more money than you so you deserve some of it?  Are you a communist?  They offer products, and set a price for them.  Buy it or don't buy it.



it's not that they have more money than me, but the fact that they have SO MUCH MORE than me, this is the reason why people work 9-5 5 days a week for 40 years.




And here we arrive at the real reason for this kind of theft: bitterness and jealousy.  If you live in the US, you live in the nation in which it is the easiest by far to become rich.  You're surrounded by 300 million people with relatively *huge* levels of disposable income, dying to part with it for absolutely any POS product that might give them a little bit of pleasure.  The fucking Pet Rock made someone a millionaire.

The reason people work a miserable 9-5 their whole lives is because they are complacent.  People with no initiative and a shitty attitude guarantee themselves a meager income by believing that someone else is making them poor.  The only difference between rich people and poor people in a capitalist country is that rich people never believed that someone else gets to decide how well they do financially.

If you don't have as much money as you think you deserve, it's probably your fault.



i completely agree 100%  you bring up valid points. however, is capitalism ethically correct?


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Re: I suck at shoplifting [Re: Irdamage]
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Stealing is scum bag shit. Doesn't anyone believe in Karma anymore? I always consider the effect Karma might have on my actions. When your mom gets decapitated in a freak automobile accident come talk to me about how your "game" is thrown off and you can't fit that double ended dildo you and your buddy have been dying to blast each other with in that ridiculous triple fat goose jacket you think is still dope.

One of the worst types of people next to murderers and pedo's is a thief.

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Re: I suck at shoplifting [Re: khemi]
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i think its walmart's bad karma that allows people to steal from it with no consequence IMHO.

stealing can be righteous shit, if used as a tool properly.


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Edited by igwna (11/08/08 12:00 PM)

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Re: I suck at shoplifting [Re: khemi]
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karma, lol !


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Re: I suck at shoplifting [Re: impgl]
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I have stolen in situations where I was hungry and needed a particular food, at the grocery stores.  Usually a raw food of some type.  I don't feel it was good or bad.  It's just what happened and I don't regret it and can't say I won't ever do it again.  :shrug:  I really don't think it's a big deal, because some stores REALLY rip people off when they resell produce they buy from the farmer, and I'll be the first to admit I'm morally flexible.  I don't try and define or limit myself with a strict code of being.  I have different priorities in life then most people. 

My karma is my dharma - also sometimes I act compulsively. 

The killer in me is the killer in you  :awesome:

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Re: I suck at shoplifting [Re: MOTH]
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shoplifters, how middleschool is that shit.  all involved.  the people doing it and the people catching them. 


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Re: I suck at shoplifting [Re: roby000]
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:rofl:


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Re: I suck at shoplifting [Re: roby000]
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Some of us never grow up.  :heart:

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Re: I suck at shoplifting [Re: MOTH]
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Anyway, I do try and buy my food in bulk from various fruit dealers, so being shifty isn't necessary in my life.

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Re: I suck at shoplifting [Re: WhiskeyClone]
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WhiskeyClone said:
There seems to be this bizarre general contempt for 'the big corporations,' as if large businesses are nothing but malignant centers of evil, out to kill and rob.  They are just successful businesses; they haven't done anything that justifies your thievery.  Somebody hears something about Wal-Mart using exploitative foreign labor, and suddenly any crime against any large corporation is completely justified, a righteous strike for the 'good guys.'



Im going to have to say "big box" decentralization (+ destruction) of local business (+ community), leaving a bigger divide in wealth, and moving it away from the community...

not to mention exploitive labour policies meant to protect the corporation but screw over the human.

I feel rightfully full of contempt for big box stores.

The world would be better without the big box, and the big box does not have anything but profit in mind.


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Re: I suck at shoplifting [Re: PyroBurns]
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PyroBurns said:
A lot of your posts are case related. There are plenty of companies doing good things. And yes, plenty of companies doing bad things like this thread has pointed out. But corporations are nowhere near inherently evil.



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It's even more revealing to compare the actual rates of increase of the salaries of CEOs and ordinary workers; from 1990 to 2005, CEOs' pay increased almost 300% (adjusted for inflation), while production workers gained a scant 4.3%. The purchasing power of the federal minimum wage actually declined by 9.3%, when inflation is taken into account. These startling results are illustrated in Figure 7.



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http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

you guys seem to be arguing for the justification of this theft because it's the american way?

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As for your thirst quencher question, yes you were stealing. That was that guy's water and he didn't ask for any smelly ass bums sticking their tongue in his shit. He would most likely understand if he caught you, that doesn't mean you weren't stealing.



so my stealing is not justified?

if someone has a monopoly on water, or anything else for that matter, they can steal from you because their greed is justified in the guise of capitalism?


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Re: I suck at shoplifting [Re: MOTH]
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What does all this amount to?

Are some of us against capitalism and money itself?

I don't like it too much. 

IMO we need more control of monopolies.  Huge companies that control the markets and shut down all the small town stores should not be allowed.  There should be some rules on when a company boss is making $10 billion profit a year yet not paying the employees a bonus each year.

Stealing is just natures way.  I watched a bird steal a worm from another bird then a cat ate the bird.  Its a dog eat dog world.  We are all fighting to get ahead.  Theres a thin line between the petty thief, the fat cat and the moralist.  I'd bet any money that the people who claim they are against stealing have stolen in their lifetime and would steal today if they needed to badly enough.  If it meant your survival then you would steal.  If you steal for greed then welcome to business.  Most business is founded on greed.

In conclusion we are all the same.

Moth said:
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The killer in me is the killer in you



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Re: I suck at shoplifting [Re: Ego Death]
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The thing is our society perpetuates stealing.  A monetary system perpetuates it, and the fact is that if their wasn't a monetary system then their would be no concept of stealing.  Their is no need for companies these days, let alone a currency system.


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Re: I suck at shoplifting [Re: CokedUpHobit64]
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CokedUpHobit64 said:
The thing is our society perpetuates stealing.  A monetary system perpetuates it, and the fact is that if their wasn't a monetary system then their would be no concept of stealing.  Their is no need for companies these days, let alone a currency system.



:confused:

There was no stealing before there was money?  Really bizarre reasoning you have here.

No need for companies?  Did you make your computer yourself?


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Re: I suck at shoplifting [Re: WhiskeyClone]
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A company is a business enterprise based on the concept of earning profit for sales.  We have enough technology and resources at our disposal to equip everyone in the U.S. with every basic resource that they require and become self sufficient through natural sources of energy.

If everyone has access to everything they need, the desire to take something from another person is void, considering they have the same access to whatever that may be.  We desire to steal because people have better things than us.  Better computers, better cars, better anything.  You have to realize that the only incentive we have for getting the latest and greatest whatever out their is money value and marketing. 

Money is not necessary at this time in our civilization,its just an illusion created for people to set themselves higher up on the social totem pole than others.


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Re: I suck at shoplifting [Re: CokedUpHobit64]
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It would solve these problems of having huge corporations screw everyone else.

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Re: I suck at shoplifting [Re: kidaihuan]
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Yeah, instead one giant corporation (the government) screws you.


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