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OfflineAdamist
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Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes
    #4343588 - 06/27/05 05:04 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Although some may assume that I'm a thief, based on stereotyping my appearance, I have in fact rarely dabbled in the world of shoplifting or general thievery. This isn't based on some moral or ethical dilemma, but rather ignorance on the rules of the game. This post is not meant to be a question on your own subjective opinion in this area, but more of an invitation for stories, advice, tips of the trade, and that sort of thing.  :smirk:

My interest in shoplifting has arisen after reading an interesting book called "Evasion", an anarcho-punk publication about dumpster-diving, homelessness, and shoplifting. The people who write the stories in the book are intelligent, and have thought-out and even philosophical reasoning behind their actions. These are my kinds of people.

I want to learn how to shoplift as if it were an art, and I want to be prepared for the consequences if I happen to get caught.
What kind of jail time would I be facing if I got caught stealing something under $50?
If someone did try to chase me down, I'm confident I could out-run them; but are there other things to consider?
Should I make attempts at disguising my identity before entering a target store?
If I am caught on camera, will they approach me before I attempt to leave the store?

Any advice or stories you could provide will be greatly appreciated, as like I said before, I am new to this world, and want to do things right.  :wink:

Also, I don't ever plan on stealing from non-chain stores. I don't believe in stealing from my fellow man, but places like Wal-Mart, on the other hand, don't fall into the "my fellow man" category, and could spare things for me, I'm sure.  :cool:


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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: Adamist]
    #4343603 - 06/27/05 05:07 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

It's not hard. A lot of cameras in stores are fake. The key is to have baggy pants. You just turn around so no one can see, drop it down the front of your pants and walk out. If someone says something just run, some chain stores have a "no chase" policy, so as soon as you're out of the store you're home free.


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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: Adamist]
    #4343613 - 06/27/05 05:09 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I'm way too paranoid to do it to be honest  :confused:

I've heard of a lot of kids in huddies (hooded tops) going into cd shops and putting the cd's in their hoods, apparently the alrams dont go off because (if theyre tall) the cd's (in the hoods) go over the vertical alarm thingies. Not sure how true it is though but thaught id mention it

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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: Adamist]
    #4343621 - 06/27/05 05:11 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Youre asking for trouble getting into that sort of lifestyle. Sure the rush is awesome, but that goes away as soon as you get caught. Luckly I got caught at a tender age of 16 yr old, stealing candy from a convenience store. My parents actually caught me with the stuff in my room, and brought me to the police station just to scare me. I had to wash cop cars for like 2 months every weekend. lol. And nowadays the security even in places like Walmart are decent, every door has a scanner that looks for items that have a little tag on the product. Just my two cents, just be prepared to face the consquences.

Another thing is simple misdeamenor theft usually doesnt lead to jail time, just a hefty fine and some community serivce, though i have heard of kids going to jail for products under 100 dollars.


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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #4343622 - 06/27/05 05:11 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

HELLA_TIGHT said:
It's not hard. A lot of cameras in stores are fake. The key is to have baggy pants. You just turn around so no one can see, drop it down the front of your pants and walk out. If someone says something just run, some chain stores have a "no chase" policy, so as soon as you're out of the store you're home free.




Wouldnt' the item fall through your trousers and plop on the floor or have i got the wrong end of the stick... ?  :crazy:


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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: mikeyboy]
    #4343624 - 06/27/05 05:12 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

yeah, I know a girl who put a CD in her purse and then just started walking around the store with it on her head. Stealing is dumb though.


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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: mikeyboy]
    #4343631 - 06/27/05 05:13 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

no. it'll balance on your shoe. if you're worried about it falling out tuck the inside of the pant leg into your sock.


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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: Adamist]
    #4343646 - 06/27/05 05:15 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Please note that shoplifting will cause the store-owners to raise their prices accordingly. Thus, when you shoplift, you are not ripping off the store-owners so much as the consumers.


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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: Silversoul]
    #4343652 - 06/27/05 05:16 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

There is no such thing as a victimless crime by the way.


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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: prefloppro]
    #4343656 - 06/27/05 05:17 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

prefloppro said:
There is no such thing as a victimless crime by the way.




incest? if both are willing?


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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: Yarry]
    #4343660 - 06/27/05 05:19 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Well thats a crime against humanity, its a crime against yourself.


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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #4343665 - 06/27/05 05:19 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

i use to hang out with the biggest thieves when i was younger.. these 2 guys i knew would go to best-buy a couple times every week. and steal several cds/games then sell them at school... they found a way to pop off the stupid plastic security holder, then just slip the discs out of the case.. thus by-passing any security device... i use to buy a lot of video games from them.

i never did that though. i didnt wanna mess with best buy and electronic shit. i thhink ive stolen a couple hats and jerseys at a mall... i gave all that shit up once i turned 18 though.. i could really care less... id rather have nothing anyways


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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: Adamist]
    #4343667 - 06/27/05 05:20 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

this thread sickens me



seriously


if you ever took anything of mine I would break all your limbs




this is why we pay higher prices, and people get stereotyped....

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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: prefloppro]
    #4343669 - 06/27/05 05:20 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

no it's not, you're talking out of society's baseless ass now.


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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: prefloppro]
    #4343678 - 06/27/05 05:22 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

if both consent then how am i hurting myself? im not into the incest im just saying, its the first victimless crime to come to mind


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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: Adamist]
    #4343680 - 06/27/05 05:22 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I use to be a shop lifter in my younger years. first thing you to do is not call attention to your self which im sure my fellow traveller you fail  :wink:


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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: Adamist]
    #4343681 - 06/27/05 05:22 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Holy crap, someone else who's read Evasion!  That book became my manifesto for months after reading it.  Personally I think CrimeThInc has got its act together and is amassing a pretty big following.  It's possible to do, and many stores have a no-pursue policy.  That is, if they catch you in the act, you're screwed, but if you set off the alarm and leave, they can't follow you out of the store.  Barnes and Noble is one such store, and so is WalMart.

Like you said, if you're prepared for the act AND the result, go for it.  :thumbup:


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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: vampirism]
    #4343684 - 06/27/05 05:23 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I am talking about society general Consensus. Its all about how you view the word crime I guess.


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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: vampirism]
    #4343685 - 06/27/05 05:23 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Stealing=Bad. Then again... prices of things are so high... it IS tempting.. lol.

Jk. I've never have stolen anything in my life. Sadly... maybe like a pen or 2...


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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: Infrared]
    #4343686 - 06/27/05 05:23 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I've never stolen. This one homeless kid I know is really good at it though. He steals all his clothes and all his food.


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