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 Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes  [Re: Yarry]
#4343687 - 06/27/05 03:23 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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another is smoking pot. alone. in the comfort of your own home, with pot you grew yourself.
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 Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: Silversoul]
#4343688 - 06/27/05 03:24 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Paradigm said:
Please note that shoplifting will cause the store-owners to raise their prices accordingly. Thus, when you shoplift, you are not ripping off the store-owners so much as the consumers.
Yeah they raise their prices for alot of reasons, not just shoplifting. 
I wouldn't feel too guilty about raising prices for consumers. 
Anyways, the reason I want to get into this is because someday soon I may be a homeless vagabond who needs to steal food for survival. I don't intend on stealing stupid material shit like CD's or whatnot. 95% of what I plan on stealing will be food items.
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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: Adamist]
#4343691 - 06/27/05 03:25 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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why not use the homeless shelter, where they serve free food?
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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: Adamist]
#4343692 - 06/27/05 03:25 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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batman stole his own food.
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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: vampirism]
#4343700 - 06/27/05 03:27 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Morrowind said:
another is smoking pot. alone. in the comfort of your own home, with pot you grew yourself.
i think almost any drug done responsibly is victimless.
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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#4343704 - 06/27/05 03:28 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I steal all the time from a huge dvd-cd-book store and I dont feel like doing something bad, since their prices are abusive, and I?m just a student
books are really easy to get, I stole all chuck palanhuik ( wrong spelling) books, fear and loathing in last vegas and a lot of othe stuff.
so if they raise prices we have the right to steal shit form them
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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: Yarry]
#4343706 - 06/27/05 03:28 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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same, but i was trying to be really specific so no one could poke holes in my example too easily.
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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: lechuck]
#4343709 - 06/27/05 03:29 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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no.. you have the right to shop elsewhere. high prices dont give you the RIGHT to steal. thats like saying theres too many ppl in the world so you have the right to kill
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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: Yarry]
#4343713 - 06/27/05 03:30 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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LOCK N' LOAD BABY!
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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: Yarry]
#4343718 - 06/27/05 03:31 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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since a CD cost 20 euros and it cost .5 to make it I feel in the right to steal it
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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: goobler]
#4343720 - 06/27/05 03:31 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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damn chinese
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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: lechuck]
#4343721 - 06/27/05 03:31 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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hm.
i guess i should contribute to the topic.
once in a while i steal a little from the art store. Really, the key is to never, ever do anything in front of a camera and to deny everything if a clerk confronts you. They cannot search you and can only call the cops ( if they saw you and you're obviously stealing it... which is hard to show ). Clerks seriously have 0 authority, managers are just scarier, but still they can only throw you out of the store ( and you should be out the door by then already ).
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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: Yarry]
#4343722 - 06/27/05 03:31 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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crime ( P ) Pronunciation Key (krm)
n.
An act committed or omitted in violation of a law forbidding or commanding it and for which punishment is imposed upon conviction.
Unlawful activity: statistics relating to violent crime.
A serious offense, especially one in violation of morality.
An unjust, senseless, or disgraceful act or condition: It's a crime to squander our country's natural resources
Theres the defintion of crime, anyway you look at it, it is still affecting someone, such as yourself. Theres alot of room for opinions on what crime really is. Hell I commit a crime almost every hour of the day, lol.
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 Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: Adamist]
#4343723 - 06/27/05 03:31 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I knew there would be people crying about how "bad" stealing is. Please. Not all of us have everything we need given to us. I have been relatively fortunate thusfar in my life but seeing as how I refuse to be programmed further (i.e. college) or get some sort of slave-wage career, I foresee myself to soon be falling into society's cracks and having to fend for my own survival, which means obtaining food, water, shelter, and clothing by any means necessary (i.e. stealing). And in case you didn't read the end of my post, I never intend on stealing from an individual, or an individual's business store. I am talking solely about corporate chains.
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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: lechuck]
#4343724 - 06/27/05 03:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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what about the music rights? To produce a CD you have to pay a lot to be able to put those songs on it.
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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: prefloppro]
#4343727 - 06/27/05 03:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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disgrace, morality, etc. are all defined by the people commiting the act so long as it doesnt affect others. at least IMO
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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: goobler]
#4343728 - 06/27/05 03:33 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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if you ever took anything of mine I would break all your limbs
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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: Adamist]
#4343729 - 06/27/05 03:33 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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programmed further? college?
okeeeee. ( the key here is not to go to a shitty college and let yourself be programmed )
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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: vampirism]
#4343735 - 06/27/05 03:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Morrowind said:
why not use the homeless shelter, where they serve free food?
There aren't homeless shelters in every city that I may be in.
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Re: Shoplifting from chain stores and victimless crimes [Re: Adamist]
#4343736 - 06/27/05 03:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Many chain stores employ police officers as security so they CAN chase. Where I work, the suspects are apprehended BEFORE they leave the store so that it is easier to detain them. And it's an ego boost for the cop when all the customers see a shoplifter slam to floor after being kneed in the nuts  I swear, I see it happen often...
Stealing from a chain isn't stealing from a specific person, but damn man, it's still stealing. Work for what you need.
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