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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Pre-Nietzschean philosophy and death anxiety
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This is a passage of a book I'm currently reading, "Contingency, Irony, and Solidarity" by the philosopher Richard Rorty.

(On the mindset of philosophers who believe it is possible to "know the truth"):

To admit that mere spatiotemporal location, mere contingent circumstance, mattered would be to reduce us to the level of a dying animal. To understand the context in which we necessarily live, by contrast, would be to give us a mind exactly as long as the universe itself, a lading-list which was a copy of the universe's own list. What counted as existing, as possible, or as important, for us, would be what really IS possible, or important. Having copied this list, one could die with satisfaction, having accomplished the only task laid upon humanity, to know the truth, to be in touch with what is "out there."

There would be nothing more to do, and thus no possible loss to be feared. Extinction would not matter, for one would have become identical with the truth, and truth, on this traditional view, is imperishable. What was extinguished would be merely idiosyncratic animality. The poets, who are not interested in truth, merely distract us from this paradigmatically human task, and thereby degrade us.

Neitzsche was the first who explicitly suggested that we drop the whole idea of "knowing the truth". He saw self-knowledge as self-creation.


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Re: Pre-Nietzschean philosophy and death anxiety [Re: EternalCowabunga]
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Did I do good, Icelander?

:boxerface:


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Re: Pre-Nietzschean philosophy and death anxiety [Re: EternalCowabunga]
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Whadda askin him for?
He doesn't know anything.

:monkeydance::grin:


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rahz

comfort pleasure power love     truth awareness peace I am      I feel      I do     I love  I speak    I see    I know

why there is reality and patterned, law-like consistency at all, rather than noise or non-reality is not a question physics answers. It's a question physics presupposes an answer to in order to provide other answers.

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Re: Pre-Nietzschean philosophy and death anxiety [Re: EternalCowabunga]
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Quote:
Neitzsche was the first who explicitly suggested that we drop the whole idea of "knowing the truth". He saw self-knowledge as self-creation.


First modern account mabey? It mirrors thousand year old belief systems from the East does it not?


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rahz

comfort pleasure power love     truth awareness peace I am      I feel      I do     I love  I speak    I see    I know

why there is reality and patterned, law-like consistency at all, rather than noise or non-reality is not a question physics answers. It's a question physics presupposes an answer to in order to provide other answers.

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Re: Pre-Nietzschean philosophy and death anxiety [Re: EternalCowabunga]
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EternalCowabunga said:
Did I do good, Icelander?

:boxerface:


Well I'm just a country boy and had trouble really understanding all of that.:lol: Maybe if I could have read more it would have helped.

I don't know why we live or to what purpose other than the ones we create for ourselves.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Pre-Nietzschean philosophy and death anxiety [Re: Rahz]
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Rahz said:
Whadda askin him for?
He doesn't know anything.

:monkeydance::grin:


It's not true I don't know anything. I'm sure I know something. I think.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Pre-Nietzschean philosophy and death anxiety [Re: Icelander]
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You give hayseeds a bad name.



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Re: Pre-Nietzschean philosophy and death anxiety [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Wha chu mean?Me and my sister here will kick yer ass fer that.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Pre-Nietzschean philosophy and death anxiety [Re: Icelander]
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Uh oh, we are doing re-runs. Not a good sign. :nono:


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Re: Pre-Nietzschean philosophy and death anxiety [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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It's da only fancy picture ma an pa could a ford . It came from one of dem picture box machines.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Pre-Nietzschean philosophy and death anxiety [Re: Icelander]
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I bet Oprah could do a makeover on those boys...


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Re: Pre-Nietzschean philosophy and death anxiety [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Fool, that udder one is ma sister. You is a purty dumb fer a city boy. (And you gots a purty mouf:hehehe:)


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Pre-Nietzschean philosophy and death anxiety [Re: Icelander]
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Sounds like you are really missing Hue.


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Re: Pre-Nietzschean philosophy and death anxiety [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Not when I gots you.:inlove: I thinks its bold of you to put your picture on your avatar like that.:hehehe:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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