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Chronic7

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Nirvana...
#7949370 - 01/29/08 07:35 AM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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How many of you have caught a glimpse of Nirvanic peace?
There have been many definitions but the Buddha himself said it is "the ultimate happyness" attained through the "cessation of suffering" which is brought by non-attachment, and ANYONE can attain Nirvana within one lifetime.
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Edited by Chronic7 (01/29/08 07:42 AM)
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Re: Nirvana... [Re: Chronic7]
#7949434 - 01/29/08 08:04 AM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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in this society? No
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Re: Nirvana... [Re: Cubie]
#7949446 - 01/29/08 08:07 AM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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Nirvana, as in not being?
Haha... Think about it..
Someone actually coined the word.. Pay som respect?
(Learn to use it.)
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Re: Nirvana... [Re: Gomp]
#7949478 - 01/29/08 08:18 AM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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The Buddha never said it was the ultimate happiness. Even to an awakened mind the feeling of happiness has its beginning and has its end. The difference is he understands this and does not cling to the feeling, does not take it personal, allows it to be there and relaxes into it. When happiness is there it is there, and when it fades it fades, when it ends it ends.
Just practice being simple, useful and loving and you will find yourself swallowed by something more wholesome than happiness.
It is fruitless to discuss nirvana, because all words are conditioned. They are constant. Once something it is written, it has been stated. Nirvana is constantly changing, and unconditioned. It isn't possible to point at it and say, "this is definitely nirvana."
And Gomp, it isn't not being... it is not becoming.
-------------------- As the life of a candle, my wick will burn out. But, the fire of my mind shall beam into infinite.

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Re: Nirvana... [Re: psyka]
#7949500 - 01/29/08 08:24 AM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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The buddha has been quoted as saying its is ultimate happyness, i dont just make things up unlike some people here.
Maybe it was lost in translation as its more than happyness can be, as its without attachment, i agree it is indefinable and indescribable, but definatley not fruitless to talk about.
http://www.buddhanet.net/e-learning/dharmadata/fdd43.html
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Re: Nirvana... [Re: Cubie]
#7949505 - 01/29/08 08:27 AM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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Quote:
Cubie said: in this society? No
It has nothing to do with the society you live in, thats part of the point! Maintaining inner peace even when surounded by complete chaos.
People seem to bitch about our society, but if you want it to change you have to accept where we are and where we are going and change yourself, the attitude, that "i can never attain nirvana in this society" will mean you never will, how can you depend on how others act for your own inner peace and wisdom?
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Re: Nirvana... [Re: Chronic7]
#7949561 - 01/29/08 08:42 AM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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What ever, you have to be materialistic in some way to even survive in this society.
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Re: Nirvana... [Re: Cubie]
#7949567 - 01/29/08 08:44 AM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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You have to be materialistic in some way to survive. period.
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Re: Nirvana... [Re: Cubie]
#7949575 - 01/29/08 08:47 AM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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Very true. You can only go so far into behavioral extremes before killing yourself.
Some people say you every action is purely selfish, but I would argue it isn't possible to be purely selfish (or purely unselfish). It seems that the universe likes to play dualistic mind games on us humans. There is no such thing as a self and no such thing as a no-self... the answer is somewhere in between 
I remember an enlightening experience I had on shrooms a few years ago. I went outside and everything was one. I didn't see plant, grass, tree, pond, rock, ants... it all resembled one organism dancing to a familiar song. Duality no longer had a name. Just like there is no such thing as cold, there is only lack of heat, there is no such thing as hate, only lack of love. No life/death... just motion.
-------------------- As the life of a candle, my wick will burn out. But, the fire of my mind shall beam into infinite.

Edited by psyka (01/29/08 09:01 AM)
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Re: Nirvana... [Re: straasha]
#7949583 - 01/29/08 08:50 AM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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Quote:
straasha said: You have to be materialistic in some way to survive. period.
Was the buddha materialistic ? Because somehow he survived until he died  No no, better, does a materialist have a buddha nature ?
What's depressing is consumerism. Somehow I eat real tomatoes, which makes me a bit of a materialist I guess, unlike, say, Peter Pan.
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Re: Nirvana... [Re: deimya]
#7949592 - 01/29/08 08:53 AM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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Quote:
Was the buddha materialistic ?
Did jesus get a hard on?
There isn't a human born that didnt survive till they died.
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Re: Nirvana... [Re: psyka]
#7949614 - 01/29/08 08:59 AM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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Quote:
psyka said: And Gomp, it isn't not being... it is not becoming.
Speak for yourself, as you know you do...
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Re: Nirvana... [Re: Chronic7]
#7949627 - 01/29/08 09:04 AM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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come on now who goes to nirvana and leaves with a t shirt?
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Re: Nirvana... [Re: Cherk]
#7949640 - 01/29/08 09:08 AM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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Kurt Cobain in Summer ?
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Re: Nirvana... [Re: straasha]
#7949657 - 01/29/08 09:14 AM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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Quote:
straasha said: You have to be materialistic in some way to survive. period.
I'm barely holding on man
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Re: Nirvana... [Re: Chronic7]
#7949697 - 01/29/08 09:27 AM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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How many of you have caught a glimpse of Nirvanic peace?
I fell into what I have to describe as a Bliss state for over 6 hours once.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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We've all aten mushrooms, cmmon now!
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Re: Nirvana... [Re: deranger]
#7949772 - 01/29/08 09:54 AM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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No mushrooms.
Keep trying.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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a 6 hour long orgasm?
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Re: Nirvana... [Re: deranger]
#7949788 - 01/29/08 09:59 AM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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Actually you are not as far off as it seems. My body felt very much like how it feels in the seconds after orgasm. It was a truly beautiful experience.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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