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Re: Is unconditional love impossible. [Re: Yellow Pants]
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collaboration involves some trust, the common goal, or a series of scheduled works producing a social structure or functional infrastructure - especially if the duration of the project takes years or decades.

it's not just an element when dealing one on one, but the relationship of a person to many and to the world requires some common understanding, dedication, and trust.

even the idea of money - is a concept of trust. initially.


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Re: Is unconditional love impossible. [Re: Yellow Pants]
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Yellow Pants said:
But it is not true that it is better to be selfless.  Every atheist can understand this when they think about the onslaught of the smiling theist knocking on their door to spread the good news of love and cheer.  Which indicates that the selfless are selling something too.


Not saying it's better to be selfless, but I don't think the happy theist is selfless.


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why there is reality and patterned, law-like consistency at all, rather than noise or non-reality is not a question physics answers. It's a question physics presupposes an answer to in order to provide other answers.

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Re: Is unconditional love impossible. [Re: Rahz]
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Do you guys think conditional loves rests on a foundation of unconditional love?


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Re: Is unconditional love impossible. [Re: BrendanFlock]
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it's too conceptual

the delight and duty of parental custody, and the bond between mates in all species that form lasting bonds might be foundational

otherwise civility, honesty, and hospitality are candidates


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Re: Is unconditional love impossible. [Re: redgreenvines]
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Unconditional love, It’s a nice idea with a few practical benefits to our species and nothing more, unless, we count deeply ecstatic / rapturous experience.. then it actually resembles a kind of flowing. :mushroom2:

Edited by The Blind Ass (07/26/21 08:49 PM)

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Re: Is unconditional love impossible. [Re: The Blind Ass]
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Unconditional love feels GOOD necessarily.


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Re: Is unconditional love impossible. [Re: The Blind Ass]
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The Blind Ass said:
Unconditional love, It’s a nice idea with a few practical benefits to our species and nothing more, unless, we count deeply ecstatic / rapturous experience.. then it actually resembles a kind of flowing. :mushroom2:


so it can be a gushingly real hallucinatory experience not particularly grounded in life


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Re: Is unconditional love impossible. [Re: redgreenvines]
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Side note - Maybe genesis should be revised & edited to have a mosquito as the main protagonist.


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Edited by The Blind Ass (07/27/21 09:17 AM)

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Re: Is unconditional love impossible. [Re: The Blind Ass]
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Genesis is getting to be a meme here.
must be a new generation coming.


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Re: Is unconditional love impossible. [Re: Rahz]
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Rahz said:
Yellow Pants said:
But it is not true that it is better to be selfless.  Every atheist can understand this when they think about the onslaught of the smiling theist knocking on their door to spread the good news of love and cheer.  Which indicates that the selfless are selling something too.


Not saying it's better to be selfless, but I don't think the happy theist is selfless.


I do not think in hindsight that the distinction of atheism and theism is relevant.  What matters is the internal and external conditions of the people involved with each other. 

What I mean to say is that the solicitations of the selfless are not always altruistic.  Which is what might be expected from someone who is that way.

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Re: Is unconditional love impossible. [Re: Yellow Pants]
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Yes, and anyone who doubts this must have lived a somewhat sad and closed off life.

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Re: Is unconditional love impossible. [Re: Holybullshit]
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you would not want that would you, so you must have to admit...


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