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CultivatorrrR
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Short rootstock graft and root segmentation
#7900447 - 01/19/08 04:15 AM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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Dr. uarewotueat
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Re: Short rootstock graft and root segmentation [Re: CultivatorrrR]
#7900501 - 01/19/08 04:46 AM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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meh... it looks ok, a little yellow and overfed perhaps...
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cpw1971
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Re: Short rootstock graft and root segmentation [Re: CultivatorrrR]
#7900956 - 01/19/08 10:03 AM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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longer rootstocks are good. they can make the graft grow faster. if not then why bother grafting in the first place???
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Re: Short rootstock graft and root segmentation [Re: cpw1971]
#7902260 - 01/19/08 03:49 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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First of all I'm pleased that I've got replies so fast. Other forums I posted it in, are dead. I will stay here
I am very new to cacti, which is why I'm asking those things. As I understood so far, lophs are not bad in terms of photosynthesis, but they are low on nutrients/water uptake (due to evolution conditions, I'd assume). If that is true, it doesn't really need anything besides the root system.
What I am wondering about, is whether the rootstock like the one I have, is viable without doing much of its own photosynthesis. Any opinions on that?
Besides, I was planning to cut it down to graft another one on the same stem.
I also twisted a nearby growing pup off, it looked like it's inhibiting the graft....
Another question:
You said that it's a bit overfed How do you see that? (I did feed it some not very high dosage of fish emulsion 5-10-5 = organic).
What do you think is causing yellowing? - What do you think it's overfed with?
- May it be pH ?
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Re: Short rootstock graft and root segmentation [Re: CultivatorrrR]
#7902325 - 01/19/08 04:13 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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Also, some more questions, I hope that it's not annoying anyone. Tell me if these questions are stupid or underleveled.
1) Why people say that it's much better to graft young tops onto cacti, and larger tops like 4-5 year old are generally not grafted.
2) Is the cut down loph segment which grows a new top, suitable for another cut down of the new top, and capable of staying alive and produce another?

The bottom part is kinda soft, the top is very firm. Also, the bottom part has never recovered its rigidity since the cut, I assume it is used mainly as a food source for the new pup....
Cut it off?
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Re: Short rootstock graft and root segmentation [Re: CultivatorrrR]
#7902370 - 01/19/08 04:27 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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1 the cores of older cacti become woody 2 yup but if the base is soft make sure its not r
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Re: Short rootstock graft and root segmentation [Re: cpw1971]
#7902693 - 01/19/08 05:43 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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How about the questions I wrote before my last post? the second one...
uarewotueat , you are saying that it's a bit overfed. How can you tell?
---Also are there any good sources of info for cacti growers? like pdf files etc, like PF-tek one?
Edited by CultivatorrrR (01/19/08 05:47 PM)
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Re: Short rootstock graft and root segmentation [Re: CultivatorrrR]
#7902711 - 01/19/08 05:47 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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Kinda looks like a big fat woman after eating a thanksgiving meal. Looks very plump and squishy and pretty light in color.. but i know very little about cacti so dont do anything till you get a pro's oppinion.
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Re: Short rootstock graft and root segmentation [Re: deformedreality]
#7965701 - 02/01/08 04:51 PM (16 years, 7 hours ago) |
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Hi, I cut the new little button which is in the last pic I posted, grafted it onto another rootstock, doing fine, started growing already. But the base appears not to give out a new button, the root is firm, but the base is soft..
Should I cut off that old base and let the root grow new ones? -does it work this way?
I don't wanna lose the root.. it is about 3.5" in length, ~1" in diameter.
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Re: Short rootstock graft and root segmentation [Re: CultivatorrrR]
#7967042 - 02/01/08 10:46 PM (16 years, 1 hour ago) |
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don't cut anything. sounds like you're f'in with this a bit too much. relax. count to ten . have a brew or smoke. or both. in nature cacti take years to grow, and any change u do is stessing that poor little thing. plants don't like fast change. back to the original post. I don't think it was over fed . ph or over watering? perhaps. actually looks like a nice job, on graft. but u haven't given the temp, or watering detail . kick up the light? what kinda light u have? not sure how often u feedin' her . but a 1-1-1 (cow poo, or compost tea) never fails. fish emul is better for flowering plants. imo my buddy has kept cacti for years w/ out so much as a bi yearly watering. peace.
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Re: Short rootstock graft and root segmentation [Re: CultivatorrrR]
#7967607 - 02/02/08 04:05 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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they will pup from their spines/hairs so dont cut. you *can* graft old cacti. you can even graft cacti that are not growing and dormant in the middle of winter. this WILL make them grow crappy and much slower, but they will live if you do it right...just not grow fast.
how tall is the root stock in your fist pic? there is no too short or too long. i have root stocks under 1cm in height and at my friends property i have some that are 1-2 meters tall. taller root stocks do pup more readily though. and it will affect speed but there are many variables that go into it.
i wouldn't cut your second one either, just leave it. it will grow, looks like it has already healed and is growing, now?
many cut cacti, like lophs, will be a bit softer right after being cut, but they will firm up once healed ad given a good water and put under proper lighting
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