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Re: images of grafted peyote seedlings [Re: Mitchnast]
    #967927 - 10/17/02 03:03 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

young san pedro's have longer spines than mature ones. That's why you probably don't recognise them.


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Re: images of grafted peyote seedlings [Re: neuro]
    #969449 - 10/17/02 04:29 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

wait a second. you're right, you can't do it withsuch young specimens. but you could do it if you grafted a much older specimen, say a 5 yr old


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Re: images of grafted peyote seedlings [Re: comario2]
    #969525 - 10/17/02 04:53 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

true....it gets even stranger since you can graft the roots upside down to another rootstock. I have one of those as well, but it's at my girlfriends house so i can't post a pic now.
The roots (and a little bit of green flesh) will sprout new pups.

Lophophora are extremely hardy. Probably you could replant the roots of such small cacti. Problem is that they will probably start to rot.
Failed grafts, were the scion doesn't connect with the cambium results in the peyote button sending out roots. You could cut it of and plant it again.

The larger the scion the harder it will be to get a good graft, sinc air bubbles are very bad. Smaller buttons are easier to graft and to attach.




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Re: images of grafted peyote seedlings [Re: Una]
    #969930 - 10/17/02 06:39 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

una, no rush, but i'd really love to see one of the upsidedown grafts, if you have a chance please post a pic later


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Re: images of grafted peyote seedlings [Re: comario2]
    #976670 - 10/20/02 11:48 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

here you go.

Rootsystem of a peyote grafted last year, sprouted 3 new pups. You can still see the taproot in between the pups.
Rootstock is Myrtyllocactus.








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Re: images of grafted peyote seedlings [Re: Una]
    #978408 - 10/21/02 12:58 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

wow, that's nice.


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Re: images of grafted peyote seedlings [Re: Una]
    #978626 - 10/21/02 03:52 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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I doubt if Trichocereus and Lophophora produce any active alkaloids at all under Northern European conditions. Anyways they are beautiful plants




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Re: images of grafted peyote seedlings [Re: MeneerCactus]
    #979372 - 10/21/02 10:31 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

yup. eric, i agree with you. murple also just confirmed to me that trichos will produce mescaline under any growing conditions. he wasn't sure about the lophos. i,d like th hear more on this


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Re: images of grafted peyote seedlings [Re: Una]
    #979375 - 10/21/02 10:33 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

una, thanks for these last pics, they are great. i will have to give it a shot one of these days :laugh: 


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Re: images of grafted peyote seedlings [Re: Una]
    #979968 - 10/21/02 03:39 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Have you ever tried grafting buttons onto Blue Myrtle cacti? How does the growth rate compare to Pedro? I've read that Myrtle's take a graft better than Pedro's.


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Re: images of grafted peyote seedlings [Re: superpimp]
    #979976 - 10/21/02 03:43 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Also, when you start the graft, do you hold the button down onto the Pedro with rubber bands or anything? Or do you just let the button sit on top of the plant and graft without anything holding it down?


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Re: images of grafted peyote seedlings [Re: superpimp]
    #980037 - 10/21/02 04:21 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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Have you ever tried grafting buttons onto Blue Myrtle cacti?




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Rootstock is Myrtyllocactus






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Also, when you start the graft, do you hold the button down onto the Pedro with rubber bands or anything? Or do you just let the button sit on top of the plant and graft without anything holding it down?





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The seedling is secured with a piece of nylon stocking that is pulled over it and secured to the spines of the rootstock.





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Re: images of grafted peyote seedlings [Re: Una]
    #1488342 - 04/24/03 04:52 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Great post Una!!!
I've never heard about that rootgrafting before!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

You wrote about leaving some green tissue on the root... I have one in a pot (cut a couple of months ago) but the green tissue already dried out, do you think it's worth cutting the dry part and try? And what about grafting a slice of an older one? Thinking about 2cm diameter and 0,5cm thick..


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Re: images of grafted peyote seedlings [Re: Agarico]
    #1489040 - 04/24/03 12:56 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

heh you sure dragged up an old thread. Una hasn't been around since February, so don't hold your breathe for a reply.


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Re: images of grafted peyote seedlings [Re: neuro]
    #1489591 - 04/24/03 03:18 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I read the date of last post before answering, after all I don't think a couple of months will make big difference, cacti are patient :grin:
I planned to wait a couple of weeks an than kindly pm him about this... thread is old but endless :wink:

 


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    #17499547 - 01/05/13 12:23 AM (9 years, 15 days ago)

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