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How to: Hydroponic Salvia
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Hydroponics sound like a very technical/pricey adventure to embark on. Yes, its true, it can be very demanding, but what you reap will be worth it in the end.

Salvia Divinorum is a plant that responds very well to a hydroponic home.

There are many systems you can build to start off.

It can be as simple as a soda bottle, and a couple bucks invested, to a multi-site nutrient flow system. The only limitations you have is the space and time you plan to invest into maintaining and caring for the plants.

Mine are grown in an ebb and flow system:


These are the kind of results you can expect from a hydroponic salvia set up(CLICK FOR ANIMATED GIF):

The images were 2 days apart. FAST GROWTH!



Lets start off by building a cheap DWC (Deep Water Culture) system.

You will need the following:

2-liter soda bottle
Ruler
Sharpie or other tool that will write on plastic
Aquarium air pump
Air stone
Scissors or Razor
Drill or Awl
Vinyl tubing (the kind used in fish tanks)
All purpose plant food
Planting media (perlite, lava rocks, gravel, etc.)
Water
Duct Tape

The first thing you want to do is clean out the soda bottle, fill it up with warm water, put the cap on it and shake it around (warm water helps dissolve the sticky mess on the inside) and pour out the water.



Measure 13 cm from the bottom of the bottle to the top, and make a circle around the bottle, this is where you are going to cut the bottle.

PLEASE EXERCISE CAUTION WHEN WORKING WITH SHARP OBJECTS.




After you have cut the bottle, you are going to make 4 holes on the bottle cap, do this with your drill or awl, you can make more holes if you wish, but make sure they are small enough so your planting media wont fall through.
Screw your lid back on the bottle.


Thats it! You have done the hardest part of this project so far.

The bottom half is going to be your reservoir, the top will be the "pot" for your plant.


Take a moment to try and make the bottom light proof, you don't want algae to be growing in your reservoir. You can wrap the bottle with paper, or duct tape, or aluminum foil, WHAT EVER to stop light from coming in.

Put in your airstone and tubing into the reservoir and close it off with the top of the bottle.




Prepare the nutrient solution, here you can add regular plant fertilizer or your hydroponic nutrient of choice.

Add enough so that the first inch and a half of the top part of the bottle is under water.

Now you are going to prepare your planting media, if you have lava rocks make sure you wash them first, they carry a bunch of red dust on them, if you are going to use perlite, do the same it carries dust which can be harmful if inhaled. Fill the top half of your bottle with your media of choice.



Now add your plant to the media and thats it!
Here is my friends plant, donated to show how the final product looks.


Salvia is a plant that grows naturally in a dense forest, where light doesn't usually reach the plant with much intensity. So it is suggested to keep her away from direct sunlight. Near a window that gets diffuse sunlight is fine.
Salvia grows very well under fluorescent fixtures. I have mine under a cool white bulb and a "grow" light, which is designed for plant growth. My plants have responded very well to 12 hours of light a day. You can go for 24 hours of light, but I have noticed that the plants do better when they have a dark cycle, which allows them to complete the cycle of photosynthesis.

You will have to change the water in your reservoir every few weeks, as the plant grows, it starts to exhaust the nutrient supply.

Also be sure to check water level every couple days, making sure it is not to low and is limiting the plants access to water, and top it off as needed.

The purpose of the air stone is to oxygenate the water, this provides oxygen to the roots, which is ESSENTIAL for healthy plant growth, otherwise you would drown the plant.


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Edited by g0pher (12/15/06 08:14 PM)

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Re: How to: Hydroponic Salvia [Re: g0pher]
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Cool! Great for starting cuttings, I presume....

Thanks!


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Re: How to: Hydroponic Salvia [Re: VirgilKane]
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yeah its good for establishing a cutting, making it grow hella fast in no time! :smile:

This is DEFENITELY NOT A LONG TERM project


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Re: How to: Hydroponic Salvia [Re: g0pher]
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Wow, thats awesome... I always assumed hydroponic growing was more difficult... now where to get cuttings?

Edited by Wee (12/15/06 06:59 PM)

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Re: How to: Hydroponic Salvia [Re: Wee]
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hey thats a good little setup u got there!
i like the time lapse thingy :grin:


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Re: How to: Hydroponic Salvia [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
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Sweet just read this post, I'm very keen to do this. 5 Shrooms for the awesome explanation and writeup.

Just a few questions, do you just take a fresh cutting and put it straight into this system? (Or would it be better to wait for root ect as by leaving it in water for a while). How often do you change the water? Do you have to worry about evapouration?

Edit: Did you just change the post to answer my questions or am I loosing the plot?  :confused: Cheers :grin:

Edited by Feelers (12/17/06 05:09 PM)

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Re: How to: Hydroponic Salvia [Re: Feelers]
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no i didn't change the post :smile:

it would be better to wait till a root system is already formed, although my friend has had success just adding an unrooted cutting to a rockwool cube and sticking it in there.

Evaporation is expected, thats why you have to monitor the water levels,
water changes every couple weeks


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Re: How to: Hydroponic Salvia [Re: g0pher]
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BUMP where did you go G0pher? You haven't posted in weeks


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Re: How to: Hydroponic Salvia [Re: Dexter_Morgan]
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hah funny u should bump this thread...
i liked this idea so much that i made one :lol:



kind of the same but i put the air tube down the top part so the airstone is directly ubder the cap :smile:

just waitin for sally to grow up a bit before i can use it :tongue:

thanks g0pher!


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Re: How to: Hydroponic Salvia [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
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Haha, I was also planing on this..
Well I have recently taken cuttings from my plant so I'll have to wait until she has gotten some new growth..


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Re: How to: Hydroponic Salvia [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
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That setup looks smooth. What kind of planting media are you going to use with it?



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Edited by geedorah (01/08/07 03:21 PM)

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Re: How to: Hydroponic Salvia [Re: geedorah]
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heyyyyy

i was on vacation guys :P didnt know id be missed LOL :smile:


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Re: How to: Hydroponic Salvia [Re: g0pher]
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thanks, will probably try it :smile:


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Re: How to: Hydroponic Salvia [Re: g0pher]
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Do you just use pH adjusted water in the setup, or are there any kind of nutrients you can add?

Thanks :smile:

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Re: How to: Hydroponic Salvia *DELETED* [Re: J.T]
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Re: How to: Hydroponic Salvia [Re: Gr33nday43]
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If someone didn't want to grow salvia using this and wanted to start from a seed, could he/she do that?


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Re: How to: Hydroponic Salvia [Re: Gr33nday43]
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Gr33nday43 said:
That's great. Have you heard of anyone using a bucket instead of a two liter bottle for more permanent growth?
Also; do you know if you can transplant a hydroponic salvia plant later into soil again?



thats what im planning to do
im debating whether ill need a 2 or a 3 gallon bucket, and im gonna order 4 cuttings come spring along with a couple other plants

right now im planning on spending some of my christmas money on the setup so i can build it and get some of my (non psychoactive) herbs started, so i can work out bugs before i recieve the salvia


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Re: How to: Hydroponic Salvia [Re: Zinglons Acolyte]
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I'm not terribly familiar with hydroponics, but to prevent algae build-up in the water resevoir, wouldn't it be just as easy (and perhaps more aesthetically appealing) to add a pinch or so of boric acid? It's used to fight algae, among other fungus, in fish tanks; boron is also one of those essential nutrients in plants so it's addition is twice as beneficial.

Just a thought.

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Re: How to: Hydroponic Salvia [Re: Gr33nday43]
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i would keep the mothers in soil and grow the rest in hydro, also make sure you do some research on hydroponics first because there is much more than just putting cuttings in water, there is Ph, nutrients, ppm,tds, EC levels of the base water you use and the nutrients you put in, nutrients, deficiency's, and lots more.

if you get a virus or disease in your water you dont want to loose your mothers, also hydro guard is a good thing

and the less light that hits your water the less algae you will have


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