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Re: salvia [Re: mikey]
    #2017084 - 10/17/03 02:49 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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so how mayn times should i water a week and should i put it in south or northern window and should 2 liter have holes in it?




As I said, if you use preemo potting mix it will drain well, so just keep it moist until establishment and then the frequency of watering can be reduced, so the top 2 to 3cm of media surface is dry between waterings. Furthermore, such media will have sufficient nutes to carry it to establishment. Just don't buy cheap potting media. In time, you will make your own blends. Cross that bridge when it comes.

Light, if you were in Oz, you'd kill it in on the north facing window as sun (my way) is too intense.

In all honesty, I can't comment on what your sun/conditions are like, since I'm not in the USA. I would hazard a guess a north window, as you are in the northern hemisphere, thus that would be my choice, as it will only be daylight, not sun. It's the opposite here, as is the case of water draining down a plug hole and the moon being upside down to how you see it.

Watering, in average room temp conditions of a house, that's a watering every 3 to 7 days to keep the media moist. If you can grow african violets in your house, with no special modifications (like a zipper tent & the like), then salvia will grow without suffering to the low R/H -- often the case in human dwellings. Salvia, like many house plants, do best at 70%+ R/H, since tropical plants (on the whole) consititute most house plant genera because of the lower light conditions in people's houses.

However, people generally perfer to live in a drier 40 to 50% R/H and find that comfortable. My house is always under 50% R/H, unless it's pissing rain outside. I live in a dry climate. Dry climates are typical of much of Australia. So, if you have a high R/H by virtue of your particular climate, then you'll be cheering on your sally.

The 2lt bottle, I've always used them on indoor plants with the cap half end with cap off.


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Re: salvia [Re: Starter]
    #2017450 - 10/17/03 08:17 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

>>So the FAQ isn't working?

Hah! Good one.  :thumbup:. But I was referring to the amount of posts that came before the FAQ was put up. I've actually seen a decline in the amount of redundant simple questions since the FAQ has first appeared. However it's quite hard for people to learn to do a quick search or read some stickied documents before making some simple posts (check out ODD for that one), so it'll never totally remedy everything.


>>What, a single shown crate with sally cuttings, gimme a break.

Seriously, nobody here has provided any pictures of that much salvia with that much care given to them, crate with hydroponics system and a domed light. Of course i've seen bigger names with a lot more salvia but they were caring for that many for a reason, avid trader or supplier to vendor or vendor themselves. No private people however with that much salvia.

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Re: salvia [Re: neuro]
    #2018534 - 10/17/03 05:25 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)


Transpiration happens at the stomata why the leaf is cut in half and the lager ones were removed to lessen the sudden loss of h2o in the newly removed bio-mass. When the cutting was taken it has a hard time taking up h2o, no roots.
SO to get pass this you need high humity so the leafs can take up h2o in the air.

But when the plant has been in a high humitity enviroment the stomata stays open and loose the abaility to close fully and the plant wilts, dieing ends and a unhealthy plant. What i did was harden the plant over 4-5 weeks(i got lots of time) to get use to the "hostile" emviroment of your house.

I got a few plants under fluros(added one about a month ago) and the leafs have gotten noticabley thicker, shorter internodes, leafs or stems on every node, 2-6 "limbs" per plant, and bumpier leafs.
Most of the plants aroun 1-2 inchs away from the light 60+ humiity temps at 60-70 maby more.

Hope that helps. When i was reading the FAQ i found the answers ok but no great i needed to know more in depth answers.


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Re: salvia [Re: Remut]
    #2018583 - 10/17/03 05:47 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

ah thanks alot how many watts per plant do you reccomend also what is the lowest temp for them thanks alot

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Re: salvia [Re: mikey]
    #2018685 - 10/17/03 06:28 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

8 watts per plant is what i got. But that does not sound right does it? 20 sum plants under 160 watts some plants are shorter some are very close to the light. But most of them are in 4 inch pots.
lowers temps inside are about 50-55 but this year is the frist time with so many plants and a new light set up. Im very sure the temp wont go to dangerous lows

look here its my setup

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...;o=&fpart=1



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Re: salvia [Re: neuro]
    #2019855 - 10/18/03 03:27 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

>>> However it's quite hard for people to learn to do a quick search or read some stickied documents before making some simple posts (check out ODD for that one), so it'll never totally remedy everything.

In a former cyber existance, I know that all too well *sigh*.

>>>Seriously, nobody here has provided any pictures of that much salvia with that much care given to them, crate with hydroponics system and a domed light. Of course i've seen bigger names with a lot more salvia but they were caring for that many for a reason, avid trader or supplier to vendor or vendor themselves. No private people however with that much salvia.

Here's my motive and based on a very different paradigm.
The laws in Australia blow on sally. It's illegal here and the only hope there is of keeping it in Aussie circulation -- since customs/AQIS will jump on any specimens that enter the country along with draconian measures against those silly enough to try -- is by continued Aussie propagation. I give them out for free, because the only hope sally has in Oz is now reliant on Aussie custodians to keep it propagated.

Furthermore, rockwool (grow flock) media striked sally will lend to soil bedding, hydro or soiless growing, making it idiot proof for the recipient to achieve success at the jump. It is the universal media and is ideal for postal transit without root shock. It stays intact.

mr_minds_eye, as said I uploaded a thread which will lend to your use. Only 1 picture missing, run out of kb's for 24hrs.


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Re: salvia [Re: Starter]
    #2023099 - 10/19/03 04:22 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

how dry should your salvia soil be before you water again

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Re: salvia [Re: mikey]
    #2023102 - 10/19/03 04:23 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

i stuck finger in and it was barely damp and are salvia leaves naturally droopy or they perky?

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Re: salvia [Re: mikey]
    #2024195 - 10/19/03 11:24 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

I've answered the watering/soil caper in this thread already.

Sally should be turgid (perky), not wilted (droopy).


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Re: salvia [Re: mikey]
    #2029493 - 10/21/03 04:46 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

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mikey said:
so how mayn times should i water a week and should i put it in south or northern window and should 2 liter have holes in it?




Water about 2x a week, or when the leaves wilt a little. let the soil dry out between waterings.

south window for northern hemisphere.

no holes. just ween sally off the bottle after a few days or weeks even. adding more time with it off more and more.
by then you shouldn't need tents or misting unless you live where kangaroos are your only friends.




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Re: salvia [Re: Suby]
    #2029499 - 10/21/03 04:47 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

ah thanks i have taken the bottle off but the big plants looks like shit its all droopy i just watered i hope it picks up

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