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Icelander
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Buddha (560-480B.C.E.)
#7826870 - 01/03/08 09:59 AM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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"All humanity is sick. I come therefore to you as a physician who has diagnosed this universal disease and is prepared to cure it"
Buddha didn't say "some of humanity is sick". He didn't say that "humanity is sick except for the religious and spiritual folk". The pundits, the gurus, ones who were supposedly awakened and the ones who had divine revelation and experienced the totality of God and the white light and all that stuff. He didn't leave them out.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Buddha (560-480B.C.E.) [Re: Icelander]
#7826885 - 01/03/08 10:04 AM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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Yeah, but we have more humans now, more sickness, and the one-man shows no longer work in the present time.
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Re: Buddha (560-480B.C.E.) [Re: shakercee]
#7826891 - 01/03/08 10:06 AM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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They never worked.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Buddha (560-480B.C.E.) [Re: Icelander]
#7826924 - 01/03/08 10:14 AM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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People deny medical treatment all of the time. You can only lead a horse to water.
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Re: Buddha (560-480B.C.E.) [Re: Icelander]
#7826973 - 01/03/08 10:34 AM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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Yes...but...that saying does not mean that Siddhartha of the Gotama clan was the ONLY whole being in the world. As Jesus was made to say by Mark:
"And when Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of a physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners." - Mark 2:17
And THIS saying for all those post-Augustinian 'Christians' who hold to Augustine's doctrine of Original Sin, not the healthier, earlier notion of the Hebrews which recognized an 'evil inclination' (the yetzer hara), but rejected that we are ALL radically depraved owing to our inherited sin/separation from God from our mythic Primal Parents. Original Sin makes the 'salvation' of Jesus absolutely necessary for wholeness/holiness/redemption even though Jesus Himself said things like: "Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of him, Behold, an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile!" - John 1:47
East or West, there are enlightened/righteous individuals among the pundits, gurus, Saducees, Pharisees, Essenes
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Re: Buddha (560-480B.C.E.) [Re: Icelander]
#7827006 - 01/03/08 10:47 AM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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How did Buddha know he was going to be born 560 years before Christ?
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Icelander
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Yes...but...
Sometimes trolling is just too easy.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Quote:
OrgoneConclusion said: How did Buddha know he was going to be born 560 years before Christ?
BooDA know all.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Icelander
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Who said Buddha was a whole being?
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How do you know there were or are enlightened individuals among us?
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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I have a friend, and I say friend not because we spend a lot of time together or have the same interest - he's a lot older than I am - he's a friend because that is his attitude towards everyone. I see him about once or twice a week when I go to the physical therapist. He is an enlightened/righteous individual and I am always learning something new about my self and new perspectives when I talk to him. I am always amazed at his selflessness and his love and empathy for people. He is not one of these "eager to please" desperate for affection type of people - he simply knows what people need, even if they don't, and will soften your ego not through cutting you down but by pointing things out to you but in exactly the way that you would want it to be spoken so it still feels like you are in control. For me, he will usually say something that would just confuse the hell out of someone else but somehow I understand exactly what he is really saying... "your fingers are long, his fingers are stubby. you could learn from him" - what does his fingers being stubby have to do with being able to learn something from him? He is a very strong empath.
He still has work to do of course, as we all do. If he didn't, he wouldn't have a reason to stay here anymore. We are all enlightened, just different degrees.
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For me, he will usually say something that would just confuse the hell out of someone else but somehow I understand exactly what he is really saying...
I know exactly what you mean.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Buddha (560-480B.C.E.) [Re: Icelander]
#7827083 - 01/03/08 11:33 AM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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What do you mean?
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Your friend sounds like a very High person.

I think everyone eventually reaches enlightenment. like.. returning Home. I believe there have been many enlightened lotus feet walking around this Earth. There are probably still some walking around. But the thing is, they aren't religious.. they aren't famous.. and they won't claim to be anything or anyone..
Currently, I'm reading "The Way of the Pilgrim", which is about one person's journey back hOMe, while reciting a ceaseless prayer/mantra. And I just finished reading a book about Neem Karoli Baba, whom was a very High person in India. He often said things like "I am nobody, I know nothing"
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Re: Buddha (560-480B.C.E.) [Re: Icelander]
#7827221 - 01/03/08 12:21 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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Icelander said: Who said Buddha was a whole being?
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How do you know there were or are enlightened individuals among us?
Well, there's us...After all, it's a matter of degree, not 0,1.
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Re: Buddha (560-480B.C.E.) [Re: Icelander]
#7827270 - 01/03/08 12:32 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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Icelander said: Yes...but...
Sometimes trolling is just too easy.
Hey...I'm on holiday til Monday next. It's been cold in south Florida - dropped to 38 degrees last night, gray and windy right now. I'm gonna have another cup of tea, move to the big beanbag and read for a while. Might have eliminated a co-worker's 20+ year claustrophobia earlier today. Short of sudden death or catastrophe, nothings gonna bring me down!
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Icelander
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I'm on holiday almost everyday.
You need to invest more wisely.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Quote:
EternalCowabunga said: What do you mean?
I mean what I say. (sometimes)
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Quote:
MarkostheGnostic said:
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Icelander said: Who said Buddha was a whole being?
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How do you know there were or are enlightened individuals among us?
Well, there's us...After all, it's a matter of degree, not 0,1.
I'm fully lightheaded.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Buddha (560-480B.C.E.) [Re: Icelander]
#7827939 - 01/03/08 03:18 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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Yeah Buddha...another guy with a failed idea... next.
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What about Ford?
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