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I want to try out DMT.
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So i want to smoke some DMT for the first time ever. And i was wondering what i need to get setup so i can make my own crystals.

I think im going to use this tech:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/6931010/page/1/fpart/1/vc/1

Or is there another tech a newbie like me should follow? All advice is appreciated.


Peace

Edited by Christoph (01/16/08 11:39 AM)

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Re: I want to try out DMT. [Re: Christoph]
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thats the easiest way to do it. :smile:
personally though i would skip the ammonia wash. ive heard so many bad stories of brown gunk left over after an ammonia wash.


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Re: I want to try out DMT. [Re: waixingren]
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Make sure you smoke it properly. When I did it, I was stupidly wasted and didnt "break through." I kinda felt like I was rolling for 30 mins. and that was it. Unfortunately, I tried it again the next day preoperly, but to no avail b/c of my tolernace from the previous day.


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Re: I want to try out DMT. [Re: cappincrunk]
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you can smoke dmt again within 10 minutes. any tolerance is gone fairly quickly.


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Re: I want to try out DMT. [Re: waixingren]
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I dunno. Thats strange. I did it with a friend and he fractaled out with just 3 hits and I was baseline the whole time.


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Re: I want to try out DMT. [Re: waixingren]
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Well whatcha waiting for?

This is by far the easiest tek ive seen,
this was found at mycotopia.


Loochypooch Tek

Required Items:

- Any amount of MHRB (preferrably 100+g)
- Roebic Drain Cleaner (Basic Lye)
- VM&P Naptha (Non-Polar Solvent)
- Distilled Water

Tools:

- Turkey Baster
- Stainless Steel Utensil
- Glass Pie Dish
- Quart Jars with Lids

Note: You will need one quart jar for each cup of MHRB powder (100g of MHRB is about 1 cup powder).

Step 1: Prepare Bark

1) Break and twist up the MHRB by hand into as small pieces as possible,
no need to hurt your hands. Use plyers if the bark is tough.

2) Put a handful of the broken up MHRB into the blender to turn it to
powder.

3) Empty the powder from the blender into a bowl or large measuring cup
and repeat blending until all of the powder is ready.

Step 2: Mix Jars

1) First, add two cups of distilled water to each empty quart jar.

Note: Put on goggles and rubber gloves for this part...

2) Add three tablespoons of Lye to each jar.

3) Stir the liquid gently with the stainless steel utensil.

4) Slowly and gently add 1 cup of MHRB powder to each jar.

Be careful not to splatter or spill.

5) Stir the powder gently until it is absorbed evenly and it turns black.

6) Add 150ml-300ml of Naptha, just leave enough room to shake contents.

7) Wipe the tops of the jars and put the lids on, then shake vigorously.

Let the jars sit overnight (8-12 hours should do probably), shake every now and then....

Step 4: Syphen Naptha

1) Syphen the Naptha off the top using the Turkey Baster and squirt it into the glass Pie Dish, being extremely careful to get only the clear Naptha and no black gunk (lye).

2) Add more Naptha to the jar and repeat this step a total of 3x.

Step 5: Evaporate Naptha

1) Put a fan next to, or a Dehydrator over the pie dish filled with Naptha. When it is dried out there will be white crystals everywhere. Continue to dry until no Naptha is smelled.

NOTE: By making the soaks only 12 hours long (maybe less, like 8?) and using thick layers of naptha to obtain easy and pure pulls, the resulting crystals should be very clean and further processing unecessary. Also this tek is for low quantities so keep in mind additional washes could decrease the yield to unacceptable levels. My friend says 100g MHRB produced 20 mind blowing experiences without any harshness.


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“All that we are is the result of what we have thought. If a man speaks or acts with an evil thought, pain follows him. If a man speaks or acts with a pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow that never leaves him” ~ buddah

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Re: I want to try out DMT. [Re: cappincrunk]
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So is this all the info i need to get good DMT? And could someone pm me a good place to shop for "dried Mimosa hostilis root bark"

"The Lazy Mans Guide to Extracting Mimosa Hostilis Root Bark by Vortex
A report and guide for a new way of extracting MHRB

Extraction Time: 1 gm in 2.5 hrs, 4 gm in 7 hr, 7.5 g total @48 hrs from Mexican MHRB Inner Root Bark

Equipment: 5 Litre ceramic or stainless steel mixing bowl, stainless stell Potato masher, 2000 ml measuring cup, Large flat glass baking pan, Fan, VM&P Naphtha; hardware store, NaOH sodium hydroxide; online auction, often listed as Red Devil Lye.

Foreword:

This process is much simpler than all of the other DMT extraction teks for Mimosa hostilis root bark. All you need to do is throw pieces of root bark into water which has had a measured amount of NaOH/sodium hydroxide dissolved into it, wait an hour, add naphtha, stir for a few minutes and then pour the naphtha off into a collection container for evaporation. In essence that is all there is to this tek. No need to fuss with acidifying the root bark for a defat, no pH papers needed, no separatory funnel, nothing fancy yet this is a very effective technique with higher yields than any other method out there yet.

Here is a more detailed explanation of the extraction method using a half kilo of root bark:

Break 400 to 500 grams of Mimosa hostilis root bark, whether inner, outer or whole root into small enough pieces all of it will fit into a large ceramic or stainless steel mixing bowl with enough room left over to only fill the bowl half way to the top. Next, completely dissolve 200 grams of NaOH/sodium hydroxide into 2000-3000 ml of tap water and add to the root bark.

Wait an hour for the lye/sodium hydroxide to soften up the root bark and then using a stainless steel potato masher stir and mash the base adjusted water into the pieces of root bark for 20-30 minutes and then pour in 250+ ml of naphtha into the bowl and mix for another 20-30 minutes. After you are done mixing the root bark let it sit for a few minutes so that any emulsion which might have stirred up into the solvent to settle out and then just pour the majority of the solvent off of the top of the basified aqueous mix into a large flat glass baking pan and evaporate with a fan blowing air across the top of the fluid to net 600-1000 mg of alkaloid in just a few hours.

Is there any easier process to extract and isolate that much alkaloid in two to three hours from a pound of root bark? Although the initial yield will be much higher if extracting powdered root bark which takes much less time, whole or broken root bark can also provide high yields if you wait two or three days for the hard strips of bark to turn into a mush as the NaOH breaks it down further and further over time in the basified solution for a higher extraction yield. If waiting 24 hours and performing a single extraction the broken root bark the basified aqueous mix will still need to be extracted over again three or more times to get more of the DMT alkaloid out. That's it, a very simple process with yields others have reported to be much higher than the more often used A-B or acid to base teks. With dried Mimosa hostilis root bark the DMT is already in the form of a salt as is and there are so little plant fats many people simply do not bother with a defat cycle so going strait to base chemical works out very well with this material."

peace


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The Shrooms i tells ya the SHROOOMS!!

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Re: I want to try out DMT. [Re: Christoph]
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I advise this tek:

http://tribes.tribe.net/ethnobotany/thread/bddc25e3-aeca-418d-811b-a46bbbc5d603

It's the one I've always used, it's easy and yields very pure white fluffy crysals.
couple of things to change in it though:
I've always gotten really pure crystals so I've never used the ammonia wash in the end
Also the times on the tek are a bit exaggerated, I can get finished product from scratch in under 24 hours. You really don't have to leave the naptha in the solution for 4 hours, I usually only leave it for like 10 minutes, but I also do 2 complete extractions to get everything out of the MHRB, usually out of a pound of MHRB I get around 1.5 grams first extraction and .7 grams second. I usually heat my naptha by bathing a jar of it in hot water, and I heat the mixture as well, that way the naptha absorbs more DMT faster. Finally in the end you don't need to wait 3 days, about 10 hours is enough, just make sure you put your freezer on the coldest possible setting.

So really here's how the wait goes:
2 hour boil
2 hour boil
strain, let it sit to settle the yukky stuff ~ 4 hours or overnight if your prefer
2 naptha washes - 10 min each (longer if you don't want to try and get everything out at once)
10 hour freeze
strain through coffe filter and let dry, the naptha can be used again also


and here's the website with the cheapest MHRB,

100herbgalaxy.com - they charge 57 bucks for a pound of powdered MHRB, that's where I buy mine

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Re: I want to try out DMT. [Re: bloodbrother778]
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search mimosa hostilis on ebay. I got 1/2 pound of powder for 40 bucks....netted about 2.5g


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Re: I want to try out DMT. [Re: WWorker]
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Thanks for the info! Gonna buy 1/2 pound of the bark tomorrow and try to see if i can find naphtha and lye. Any special grades or brands i should be aware of before i buy the chemicals?

peace


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Re: I want to try out DMT. [Re: Christoph]
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Is it worth it to grow a MH tree, or just buy the shit? How expensive is it? Is it the best source for DMT or is it phalaris?


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Re: I want to try out DMT. [Re: Christoph]
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You want to reagent grade shit if you can but you aren't finding that at home depot

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Re: I want to try out DMT. [Re: PoisonedV]
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53$ for 223g inc shipping to sweden.

Only question remaining now is what chems to buy.

So if reagent is out of the question im screwed?


The only natriumhydroxid i can find is labeled 85–100 %. Is that the correct one?

Now if i only could nail the naphtha aswell..:)


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The Shrooms i tells ya the SHROOOMS!!

Edited by Christoph (12/22/07 08:14 PM)

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Re: I want to try out DMT. [Re: Christoph]
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no reagent grade is what like chemist would buy so it's clean so to say. you can use all sorts of grades they might have residual crap that ends up in the finished product however so reagent should be used if possible.

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Re: I want to try out DMT. [Re: Christoph]
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The only reagent grade thing you'll need to worry about is your petroleum ether (naphtha), other than that NaOH is NaOH and HCl is HCl. And anyways, hardware store brand naphtha works just fine.

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Re: I want to try out DMT. [Re: WWorker]
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WWorker said:
search mimosa hostilis on ebay. I got 1/2 pound of powder for 40 bucks....netted about 2.5g



its impossible to net that much from 1/2 lb, the DMT content of MHRB is like .57%, 2.5 g is about the amount you get from a pound, you must've had impurities in your crystals

Edited by bloodbrother778 (12/23/07 10:35 AM)

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Re: I want to try out DMT. [Re: Christoph]
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I wouldn't use that method,
its got a high failure rate,

just do a proper and trusted a/b extraction.

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Re: I want to try out DMT. [Re: bloodbrother778]
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bloodbrother778 said:
its impossible to net that much from 1/2 lb, the DMT content of MHRB is like .57%, 2.5 g is about the amount you get from a pound, you must've had impurities in your crystals


MHRB can have alkaloid levels as high as 1%, they can range drastically but 2.5 g is definatly not /impossible/ to get out of a half pound. maybe hes just way better at extraction than you.


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grassman said:

I remember being in DARE when i was much younger and some of the stories they would tell you are not only ridiculous, but completely untrue. One story was that a woman was on LSD and thought her infant was a turkey so she baked it in the oven. Now I look back and think thats hilarious, but at the time I guess it scared me.

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Re: I want to try out DMT. [Re: clover606]
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Maybe it's impure...I don't know. I do know that it is off white, a bit fluffy after freeze precip and ammonia wash, and it blows my ass away.

I used a mixure of nomans and lazy tek over 3-4 days at about 90 degrees. 5 pulls.


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Re: I want to try out DMT. [Re: WWorker]
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seriously how come no one DEFATTS when i straight up defat my bark with the acid solution it pulls a whole mess of junk out the solution so where is that stuff thats pulled with you do your naptha pulls does that just settle out? tho it cant really steelt out of the naptha


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you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

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