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clover606
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i need to do another extraction. like now. but i have no MHRB  and i got laid off a little while ago, so no $$$
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Christoph
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I scraped all my dirty dirty crystals up and put it in a shotglass with some water and naptha. Then i put it in the freezer. Im now waiting for it to freeze so i can pour the naptha and re-evap. Hopefully some crystals is retrieved..:)
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Re: I want to try out DMT. [Re: Christoph]
#7849595 - 01/08/08 06:27 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Christoph said: I scraped all my dirty dirty crystals up and put it in a shotglass with some water and naptha. Then i put it in the freezer. Im now waiting for it to freeze so i can pour the naptha and re-evap. Hopefully some crystals is retrieved..:)
Peace, love.
Weird way of doing it, are the water and naptha floating as separate layers? I wonder what will happen. I think the DMT and the gunk will crash out of the naptha, fall into the water and then freeze, leaving nothing in the naptha that you pour off.
If you didn't add the water you just put it in the freezer and the spice will just appear.
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Edited by undergrounder (01/08/08 06:38 PM)
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Christoph
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damnit.. dont know actually.. fuck.. well guess ill evap everything again with the water, then readd naptha and do it proper.. would that work?
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Re: I want to try out DMT. [Re: Christoph]
#7854447 - 01/09/08 03:53 PM (16 years, 23 days ago) |
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Ok round 2=).
First i put 1250ml water in a stainless steel mixing bowl, added 75-80g Sodium hydroxide. Let the sodium hydroxide dissolve, added 170g rootbark powder. Let it sit for an hour, then stir for 30minutes. Then im adding 125ml naptha and mix for another 30mins. After that im going to let it sit and separate, put it in the freezer. Then pour of the naptha into the evap-plate. Done? Sounds good? Anything i should do differently please let me know!!
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Re: I want to try out DMT. [Re: Christoph]
#7854585 - 01/09/08 04:12 PM (16 years, 23 days ago) |
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I think you would be better off isolating the naphtha without freezing the aqueous layer. The DMT might settle to the bottom of the organic phase and be trapped in the frozen aqueuous phase? I'm no expert.
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Re: I want to try out DMT. [Re: Stizzle]
#7854631 - 01/09/08 04:22 PM (16 years, 23 days ago) |
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I'll hold with the freezing then until more opinions drop in. Thank you!
Peace
Edit: i seem to have missed something.. It's only the naptha that goes in the freezer, not the whole thing with the black/brown sludge. Correct?
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Edited by Christoph (01/09/08 05:21 PM)
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Re: I want to try out DMT. [Re: Christoph]
#7855615 - 01/09/08 07:32 PM (16 years, 23 days ago) |
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Christoph said: Ok round 2=).
First i put 1250ml water in a stainless steel mixing bowl, added 75-80g Sodium hydroxide. Let the sodium hydroxide dissolve, added 170g rootbark powder. Let it sit for an hour, then stir for 30minutes. Then im adding 125ml naptha and mix for another 30mins. After that im going to let it sit and separate, put it in the freezer. Then pour of the naptha into the evap-plate. Done? Sounds good? Anything i should do differently please let me know!!
peace and love.
Yeah that's not exactly what i do but its more or less right. Either you could put it in the freezer and pour off the naptha once the water is frozen (never tried that myself) but what i do is wait until the layers have separated and then pull off the naptha using a turkey baster or a pipette or something.
And then you only put the naptha in the freezer and watch it turn into a snowglobe with falling DMT crystals magically appearing in the bottom of the naptha jar.
I think you're confusing two uses of the freezer. Some people use the freezer to freeze the basified water to make the separation of the naptha easier. The only problem i could see with this is the possibility that as you make the naptha layer colder, it 'freeze precipitates' (see below) the DMT crystals, making them fall to the bottom. As the other guy said, they might fall through the naptha into the water layer and get stuck in the ice.
But far more common is to use the freezer to freeze JUST the extracted naptha layer to make the DMT form without needing to evaporate. This is called 'freeze precipitation' or 'crashing out' the DMT.
'Freeze Precipitation' like that is just an alternative to evaporating the naptha. It usually leaves a much higher quality spice. The common way to do it is to air evaporate most of the naptha off and then FP the last 100 - 300ml or so.
So this is what i do:
1. Blah blah. 2. Wait for the basified water and naptha layers to separate cleanly. 3. Pull out the naptha using a pipette and put it in a second jar. Repeat that a few times with fresh naptha, then discard the basified water. (I dont use the freezer to separate the layers like you) 4. Put the jar of naptha into a shallow dish, evaporate it down to about 200ml. 5. Put that 200ml into a sealed jar in the freezer for 2 hours, then in the fridge for 2 hours, then freezer, fridge, freezer, etc. If you leave it longer than 2 hours, make sure its in the freezer (ie when you go to bed) 6. At the end of the process, DMT crystals will have formed in my naptha jar, stuck to the sides and collecting at the bottom. 7. While its still cold, pour the naptha and crystals onto a coffee filter, dry the crystals, scrape them out and celebrate.
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Re: I want to try out DMT. [Re: Christoph]
#7855625 - 01/09/08 07:34 PM (16 years, 23 days ago) |
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What can i do to get more separation? Having a hard time pouring only naptha even out of a smaller measuring cup..
Edit:I Just read you post, thank you so much. I dont use the freezer to do separate the layers either. That was just a misunderstanding on my part;) Now i need to find a pipette. I'll use mah secret spooning tech.. Using a teaspoon. Peace help me:)
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Edited by Christoph (01/09/08 07:40 PM)
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Re: I want to try out DMT. [Re: Christoph]
#7855917 - 01/09/08 08:22 PM (16 years, 23 days ago) |
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Teaspoon will be difficult but good luck. Chemists often have small pipettes for feeding babies medicine. You could also use a syringe with or without the needle. Again chemists have those, also for feeding babies medicine.
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yea the spoonthing did not work this time around, did not get as much separation. Anyway i can increase it?
Btw there is 170g bark, 1.5litres water, 95g sodium hydroxide and about 150ml naptha.
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Edited by Christoph (01/09/08 08:26 PM)
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Re: I want to try out DMT. [Re: Christoph]
#7855933 - 01/09/08 08:27 PM (16 years, 23 days ago) |
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What do you mean increase the separation? Make the line cleaner? - add more lye or wait for it to settle longer. Add more naptha? sure. Just re-mix the water/naptha every time you add fresh stuff.
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Hmm im gonna let it be over night and find me a pipette tomorrow. Im so sorry for all the newbness.
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Re: I want to try out DMT. [Re: Christoph]
#7857169 - 01/09/08 11:53 PM (16 years, 22 days ago) |
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Don't be 'depressed', your extracting spice!! Even if your doing more 'prospecting' than mining your learning all the way. Anyway i thought i saw some nice crystals in that glass dish you should be exploring hyperspace in no time.
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Christoph
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This is what ive got sofar.


Thanks undergrounder.
Peace
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The only reason i want to try DMT is that track Divine Moments of Truth by Shpongle
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Re: I want to try out DMT. [Re: Chronic7]
#7866683 - 01/11/08 08:24 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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Is that enough for a good journey? I do not have a milligram scale yet. How much should i smoke? Remember, this will be my first time. Ive only tried low doses of shrooms before and weed ofc.
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Re: I want to try out DMT. [Re: Christoph]
#7867340 - 01/11/08 11:24 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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Christoph said: Is that enough for a good journey? I do not have a milligram scale yet. How much should i smoke? Remember, this will be my first time. Ive only tried low doses of shrooms before and weed ofc.
Peace
It could be enough or way too much depending on how pure it is... i suggest just taking a knife tip and then measuring it in lungfulls of smoke. Taking one big lungfull would get you a decent lower level dose and two to three big lungfulls would be strong.
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Before i smoke anything i just want to make sure i used the correct naptha:)

i think it translates to hydrogenunsulfured 100%?
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Re: I want to try out DMT. [Re: Christoph]
#7876517 - 01/14/08 12:03 AM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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Christoph said: Before i smoke anything i just want to make sure i used the correct naptha:)

i think it translates to hydrogenunsulfured 100%?
Peace
I have no idea mate, i use stuff called shellite. If you still have some naptha left over, pour a small amount in a flat dish and make sure it all evaporates and leaves no residue behind. If that's the case its fine.
But those crystals look fine anyway. I doubt you have the wrong naptha.
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