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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
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Well I think I'm gonna go pour a bottle of bleach in my flower garden now. later.


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: wstarc5]
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YA do that. Just try to absorb before you become so arogant.

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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: wstarc5]
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Both bleach and the cleaning solution are acidic, whereas borax is basic


So much for that kids science fair project. Bleach is HIGHLY alkaline, not acidic.

I've posted for years that bleach doesn't kill fungi. Even some spores, such as Cordyceps can survive several minutes in a ten percent bleach solution and still germinate.

I do however suspect that any increase in pinning on the bleach sprayed casing layer was due to genetic differences and not attributable to the bleach. Bleach spray will abort pins. They don't appreciate it at all. In addition, there is no need to subject a perfectly healthy cake to bleach.
RR


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
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Back to the educated.... Slimz, I am doing some side by sides with different concentrations. Will keep up to date with community. Seems the researcher didn't drive this experiment as far as reaching a destination. Will try to fill in.

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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: RogerRabbit]
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RogerRabbit said:
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I do however suspect that any increase in pinning on the bleach sprayed casing layer was due to genetic differences and not attributable to the bleach. Bleach spray will abort pins. They don't appreciate it at all. In addition, there is no need to subject a perfectly healthy cake to bleach.
RR



Thank you.


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
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Spay is applied at the end of the vegetative cycle. Really before i even see the knots. Strain Thai Lippi, cloned and isolated. They stay pretty consistent when it comes to my side by sides.

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Re: Bleach and pinset *DELETED* [Re: sublimemushhead]
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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
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The bleaching isn't acctually doing anything for the mycelium, it is just creating a conatiminent free enviroment that explains the improved results. I'm not saying that the bleach is drastically damaging the mycelium it just isn't imporving the mycelium.


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Re: Bleach and pinset *DELETED* [Re: wstarc5]
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Edited by sublimemushhead (11/07/07 12:45 PM)

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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: wstarc5]
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wstarc5 i have pwnd you before, please just stay out of it.. As you see i do not offer my own opinion because I am not learned enough. I ask questions and provide research that has been done on the subject and throw it out there for the experts to play with..


So PLEASE keep your "im on my first grow ever" mouth shut and stop interupting the adults.


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: Slimz]
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You are cool people Slimz.......starting to think I was the only one this guy was aggravating. Battle with non educated noob. Big waste of my communication.

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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
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Thanks my ass.


Keep it nice please. At this point you have a theory, but as we know in science, one shouldn't defend a theory, but rather prove or disprove it and then publish the results.

Try to duplicate the procedure and see if future crops display the same characteristics and always use controls so you have a base to compare. It's possible that the interaction of the caustic with the gram positive bacteria produced an enzyme that stimulates pinning. Who knows unless it can be duplicated?
RR


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: wstarc5]
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I've posted for years that bleach doesn't kill fungi. Even some spores, such as Cordyceps can survive several minutes in a ten percent bleach solution and still germinate.

that disproves your theory right there in RRs post

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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
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This kid was causing issues on his first day..

I asked too many stupid questions my first week (like everyone) but this kid is just full of stupid answers...


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Lazy Drywall Tek (no powdery mess)

This series will blow your mind and confirm what you already know to be true.
The Pharmacratic Inquisition
Best Thread Ever ! ! !

:pm: me if you have questions about lasers

Although i may advise others in a general way regarding all types of mushroom grows, and may even post question from other forums about growing "active" mushrooms, i only grow non-"active" mushrooms and edibles.

FeelFamily resident tech guru

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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: Slimz]
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I apologize for my irritability. pertinent words of wisdom, prove or disprove(then defend my results)

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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
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that just prooves a lack of negative effects...


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Lazy Drywall Tek (no powdery mess)

This series will blow your mind and confirm what you already know to be true.
The Pharmacratic Inquisition
Best Thread Ever ! ! !

:pm: me if you have questions about lasers

Although i may advise others in a general way regarding all types of mushroom grows, and may even post question from other forums about growing "active" mushrooms, i only grow non-"active" mushrooms and edibles.

FeelFamily resident tech guru

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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
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wstarc5's theory on it being contam free. which is impoosible unless it is some kind of invitro any ways.

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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: xdaveman]
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oh.. ok ... i follow now..


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Lazy Drywall Tek (no powdery mess)

This series will blow your mind and confirm what you already know to be true.
The Pharmacratic Inquisition
Best Thread Ever ! ! !

:pm: me if you have questions about lasers

Although i may advise others in a general way regarding all types of mushroom grows, and may even post question from other forums about growing "active" mushrooms, i only grow non-"active" mushrooms and edibles.

FeelFamily resident tech guru

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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: Slimz]
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I could do worse things then jump to obvious conclusions, I could display a weak theory with out evidence or repition as fact with out any logically reason as to why it happens.


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