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wstarc5
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RogerRabbit said: I'm sure he plans to do just that. But in the meantime, please stay out of his thread. You're causing a disruption. You've made your point. RR
Your not used to people who actualy have an idea and don't run around quoting you. I'm not causing the disruption that would be your boy slime acting on his personal vendetta.
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Edited by wstarc5 (11/07/07 03:33 PM)
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RogerRabbit
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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: wstarc5]
#7607450 - 11/07/07 03:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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There is obviously something about STFU that everybody but you seems to understand. The next person who flames in this thread gets banned for a day. That's a promise, so don't fuck with this guys thread anymore. That goes for anybody who doesn't have a positive point to make that adds to the body of knowledge. This isn't jr high school. RR
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wstarc5
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I'm not in junior highschool for the record your talking to a full scholarship pre law student, who graduated highschool with a 3.95 gpa. Its a forum, get a life.
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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: wstarc5]
#7607473 - 11/07/07 03:41 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Banned. Any more takers? RR
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Slimz
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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: Slimz]
#7607492 - 11/07/07 03:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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RR posted
It's possible that the interaction of the caustic with the gram positive bacteria produced an enzyme that stimulates pinning
was thinking something similar.. since he was misting, the caustic and whatever reaction it is having may promote knotting.
Also, Sodium Hypochorite is a very reactive substance and will quickly break off its chlorine in the presence of mild acid. There could be a completely different reaction going on here that we are not seeing.
Even if there was a reaction that caused the myc to start reparing itself on a microscopic level, this could jumpstart the knottig.
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wstarc55
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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: Slimz]
#7607575 - 11/07/07 04:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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That wstarc5 kid seems to be quite reasonable in my opinion why would you ban him?
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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: wstarc55]
#7607603 - 11/07/07 04:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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wstarc55 said: That wstarc5 kid seems to be quite reasonable in my opinion why would you ban him?
WOW. what you just did is waay morbid. You are talking bout yourself on a new screen name. For your own good, drop it.
Other than this little trifle,
I want to know if it would be possibly to spray this kind of diluted bleach solution in our FC's and on our new casings?
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wstarc55
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Yeah true but they go through the trouble of blocking your ip and everything.
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Subbedhunter420
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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: wstarc55]
#7607656 - 11/07/07 04:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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You got banned again.
I would like to retract my last question and ask if its possible to mist my casings with this procedure to reduce contaminants in the air and casing.
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Mankey


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Go for it. See how it turns out and report back.
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c0_hush
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Subbedhunter420 said: I would like to retract my last question and ask if its possible to mist my casings with this procedure to reduce contaminants in the air and casing.
I don't see why not, 10% bleach spray is shown on Mushroom Growing Made Easy video where the guy is disinfecting the surrounding area and all the tools he'll use to inoculate the jars...
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Slimz
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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: c0_hush]
#7607683 - 11/07/07 04:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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i think we are all gonna start going bleach crazy...
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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: c0_hush]
#7607685 - 11/07/07 04:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Damn... why arent we all doing this then?>>
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AncientBeing
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RogerRabbit said: That's because it breaks down within minutes, and there's no mycelium on the corn cobs at the time. RR
Nope, I pour a full bottle of 3% peroxide directly on the mycellium spawn and corncob, mix it up real good, let it sit for about half an hour, drain off the excess peroxide, and fill trays. Done it probably 50+ times no probs and no contaminates during incubation.
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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: wstarc5]
#7608277 - 11/07/07 06:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Anyhow, back to the topic. I think if anything it's just a stress response. Many organisms try to complete their lifecycle in response to stress. Bacteria form endospores, some plants only flower and produce seeds under stress.
Mushrooms are known to trigger pinning when the food source is exhausted. I wouldn't be surprised if the myc tries to reproduce when it senses impending doom from bleach also.
What sort of concentrations are you using anyways?
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2012shaman
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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: fastfred]
#7608381 - 11/07/07 07:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would also like to know what concentrations, this sounds like a great idea I just have one question, when exactly do I spray, when the myc pokes through the top of the casing layer, when I see primordia, hyphal knots, the first few pins? and when do I stop?
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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: 2012shaman]
#7610015 - 11/08/07 06:13 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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i would use a 0.6% hypochlorite wich would be 10% chlorox and 90% water..
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Hey Sublime thanks for the tips. I'm going to try this pronto. I will tell you of my results so you can compare mine to yours and who ever elses.
Thanks for the post and nevermind wstarc5 he just seems bitter that you know more than him.
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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: eleven34]
#7610171 - 11/08/07 08:32 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wonder if this could save a cake.. Maybe one with a minor mold infection.. just spray the damn thing.. the MYC dont seem to care but the mold sure does..
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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: Slimz]
#7610314 - 11/08/07 09:26 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bleach doesn't harm mold much. It's hard on the spores, but not on the mycelium. Nobody else has ever reported an increase in pinning from bleach. I'm inclined to think something else is involved, but time will tell. Keep an open mind. RR
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