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Bleach and pinset Amazing results!!!!!!!! *DELETED*
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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
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Bleach doesn't harm mycelium much. I've soaked tissue for cloning for several minutes in a ten percent bleach solution. The bacteria is killed off, but the mycelium survives. Bleach seems to harm mycelium far less than peroxide.
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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: RogerRabbit]
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Ok so then would it be ok to do something even more drastic, like....

Once fully colonized, dunk your cake for a few seconds in .6% hypochlorite (that would be 10% Clorox and 90%water) solution, rinse with clean water, and then dunk in clean water overnight before placing in the FC? sounds to me like if the MYC are OK with it, it may be a great way to cut contam


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: RogerRabbit]
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But whats with the effects on hyphal knots, pinset. I swear by this. It's crazy. I wonder what the under lining science is. Cause and effect stuff.

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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
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could this method be used with cakes too? I'm planning on shocking the myc once developed, using dunking (16 hours) and rolling in verm before transferring to terrarium.

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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: c0_hush]
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yeah.. i was also talking about a cake..


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Re: Bleach and pinset Amazing results!!!!!!!! [Re: sublimemushhead]
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I'll have to try that one with my jars.

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Re: Bleach and pinset Amazing results!!!!!!!! [Re: sadisticpuppet]
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id like to get RK or RRs opinion on this


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: RogerRabbit]
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Bleach seems to harm mycelium far less than peroxide.


Ya know, I keep hearing that peroxide hurts mushrooms, but I've used strait 3% peroxide to sterilize bulk corncob spawn with fantastic results many times. I've never seen it slow down the process.


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: AncientBeing]
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That's because it breaks down within minutes, and there's no mycelium on the corn cobs at the time.
RR


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: RogerRabbit]
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um RR while your here.. could you weigh in on my sugestion above (cake dunk)


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: Slimz]
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I would have to think that the improved results are based just on the lack of contaminents and not any real benefits from the bleach for the mycelium itself. Right?????????


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
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What could bleach possible give to the mycelium????


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
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How bout someone with an educated opinion???????


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
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or drug resistant bacterial infections...

i did find this.. but haven't read it, probably would not understand all of it..
http://aem.asm.org/cgi/reprint/57/10/2858.pdf


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The Pharmacratic Inquisition
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:pm: me if you have questions about lasers

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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: Slimz]
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Thanks for the link slimz right on trac.
This is exactly what Im looking for. Realy good stuff.

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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: Slimz]
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and also this quite from a science fair project.

"Next he tried to determine what chemicals might kill the mushrooms. Boothroyd tested bleach, borax, and a commercial cleaning solution on a fresh batch of oyster mushroom mycelia.

"""I had read that bleach was toxic, so I assumed that it was bad for the environment, and therefore would kill the mycelia and mushrooms," Boothroyd said.

Much to his surprise, however, the mycelia seemed immune to bleach and the commercial cleaning solution, but susceptible to borax. That gave Boothroyd an idea for one more experiment.

Both bleach and the cleaning solution are acidic, whereas borax is basic, so Boothroyd decided to test the susceptibility of mycelia to acids and bases. This time he grew mycelia in the presence of vinegar (acid), water (neutral), and baking soda (base).

Neither baking soda nor vinegar killed or altered the growth of the mycelia, he reported, although the mycelia growing in water did best of all. However, he's not sure that the experiment is the final answer to his question. Boothroyd thinks the basic and acidic solutions might have been too weak to affect the mycelia to a measurable extent."""


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The Pharmacratic Inquisition
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:pm: me if you have questions about lasers

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