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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7651279 - 11/18/07 02:53 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

could i put a like tiny ass portion of bleach into a pf tek jar? haha that sounds so ridiculous.. but really. can you?


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7653936 - 11/19/07 09:05 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I have two cakes that are just ready to fruit so I will dunk one in 10% bleach solution and one in regular water, and then roll them in fine vermiculite and then record the flushes.




I would not do a 24 hour dunk in 10% bleach.. dunk both in plain water for 24 hours then dunk 1 in 10% bleach for a few minutes


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
    #7654184 - 11/19/07 10:50 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: resptodd]
    #7654494 - 11/19/07 12:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Dunking for 24 hrs is absolutly ok


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
    #7654512 - 11/19/07 12:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

even 24 hours of 10% bleach is ok?


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
    #7654517 - 11/19/07 12:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Caribou Lou. Great idea. More results for the people to see.
I have done this w/ wbs colonized by an isolate (side by side w/ control). And the bleach gave a superior pin set compared to the non treated. I have been busy but would like to do pictorial duplicate and triplicate of this phenomenon,.


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
    #7654528 - 11/19/07 12:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i wonder if , when casing with verm, moistening the verm with 10% would have a similar effect..


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
    #7654534 - 11/19/07 12:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

JBT, I'm almost positive that adding a small amount of bleach to PF jars will work perfectly fine. I added about 4 drops to my LC and it still worked fine without contaminations. Doing so to your jars can also add to sterility if you want to take it to the next level. I'd also assume that you should never pass 10% in a solution with water wherever and whenever you are working with mushroom cultivation.


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
    #7654547 - 11/19/07 12:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Most defiantly Slimz. Not as strong as some of my experiences. Took some 1/2 h2o, 1/2 bleach ( the spray bottle had a different purpose)
sprayed my bonsai tree, which I had thrown some colonized grain in.
Kept it moist for weeks and it had way passed recolonization but w/ no knots. After an accidental massive spray down w/ the strong bleach
I attempted to dilute some what w/ a light pure water misting. Next afternoon knots, next afternoon pins. Did a journal on it, no one responded so I deleted it.


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    #7654565 - 11/19/07 12:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
    #7654657 - 11/19/07 12:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

verm is not a medium for growth.. nothing grows on verm... sterilizing it would harm nothing..


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: Slimz]
    #7654664 - 11/19/07 12:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Are you kidding me!


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
    #7654674 - 11/19/07 01:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

no


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
    #7654678 - 11/19/07 01:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Guess you've never seen clamp connections on and all over some vermiculite. Do you think that beneficial don't do the same.
But to each his own experience. Try it out and tell us about it. I myself colonize my whole mix w/ beneficial, thats right even my casing(including the vermiculite). A step most seem not willing to go the further effort. Bleach in my situation could open me up to heavier contaminations.


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
    #7654695 - 11/19/07 01:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

"Vermiculite absorbs nutrients, preventing them from being washed out and then releases them as required to plant roots. It helps to retain water and holds moisture near to plant roots. Vermiculite is a naturally occurring, non-toxic material that has been heated to a high temperature to produce a lightweight material with a high surface area."

verm itself has NO nutrients to offer living organisms..


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: Slimz]
    #7654709 - 11/19/07 01:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for the overly obvious. But you didn't answer me.


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
    #7654717 - 11/19/07 01:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Now your saying they absorb nutes, but that nothing grows over them. Listen. Growing on and all over, never saying the words eat's or colonizing.


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: shaggydogman]
    #7654759 - 11/19/07 01:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Retrospectivly, in my limited experience, I got to thinking that maybe the bleach in the humidity was helping against airbourne contams and didn't seem to be preventing the shrooms from pinning or fruiting and concluded that cleaning/hydrating perlite in this way was OK and maybe of benefit...





Using bleach in the perlite is useless unless you like the smell of bleach. Perlite is inert, so doesn't contaminate anyway, and water that evaporates is by definition, distilled water. In other words, minerals and salts don't evaporate with the water-they're left behind.
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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
    #7654764 - 11/19/07 01:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

My point is that when you buy verm it does not contain any beneficial nutrients. they have to be added. Verm readily absorbs them but unless you add something to it, its basically just a heat puffed rock. It therefore does not contain any beneficial bacteria either...

the amount of heat it takes to make verm and the process by which it gets to your doorstep would really only allow for nasty spores to get in there.


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7654798 - 11/19/07 01:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Was this to detour the Vermiculite conversation? Or have I missed shaggy's reply in this thread?


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