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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
    #7606708 - 11/07/07 12:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Well I think I'm gonna go pour a bottle of bleach in my flower garden now. later.


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: wstarc5]
    #7606724 - 11/07/07 12:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

YA do that. Just try to absorb before you become so arogant.


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: wstarc5]
    #7606731 - 11/07/07 12:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Both bleach and the cleaning solution are acidic, whereas borax is basic




So much for that kids science fair project. Bleach is HIGHLY alkaline, not acidic.

I've posted for years that bleach doesn't kill fungi. Even some spores, such as Cordyceps can survive several minutes in a ten percent bleach solution and still germinate.

I do however suspect that any increase in pinning on the bleach sprayed casing layer was due to genetic differences and not attributable to the bleach. Bleach spray will abort pins. They don't appreciate it at all. In addition, there is no need to subject a perfectly healthy cake to bleach.
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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
    #7606739 - 11/07/07 12:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Back to the educated.... Slimz, I am doing some side by sides with different concentrations. Will keep up to date with community. Seems the researcher didn't drive this experiment as far as reaching a destination. Will try to fill in.


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7606741 - 11/07/07 12:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I do however suspect that any increase in pinning on the bleach sprayed casing layer was due to genetic differences and not attributable to the bleach. Bleach spray will abort pins. They don't appreciate it at all. In addition, there is no need to subject a perfectly healthy cake to bleach.
RR





Thank you.


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
    #7606752 - 11/07/07 12:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Spay is applied at the end of the vegetative cycle. Really before i even see the knots. Strain Thai Lippi, cloned and isolated. They stay pretty consistent when it comes to my side by sides.


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Re: Bleach and pinset *DELETED* [Re: sublimemushhead]
    #7606756 - 11/07/07 12:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
    #7606768 - 11/07/07 12:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The bleaching isn't acctually doing anything for the mycelium, it is just creating a conatiminent free enviroment that explains the improved results. I'm not saying that the bleach is drastically damaging the mycelium it just isn't imporving the mycelium.


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Re: Bleach and pinset *DELETED* [Re: wstarc5]
    #7606814 - 11/07/07 12:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: wstarc5]
    #7606820 - 11/07/07 12:44 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

wstarc5 i have pwnd you before, please just stay out of it.. As you see i do not offer my own opinion because I am not learned enough. I ask questions and provide research that has been done on the subject and throw it out there for the experts to play with..


So PLEASE keep your "im on my first grow ever" mouth shut and stop interupting the adults.


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: Slimz]
    #7606847 - 11/07/07 12:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

You are cool people Slimz.......starting to think I was the only one this guy was aggravating. Battle with non educated noob. Big waste of my communication.


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
    #7606853 - 11/07/07 12:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Thanks my ass.




Keep it nice please. At this point you have a theory, but as we know in science, one shouldn't defend a theory, but rather prove or disprove it and then publish the results.

Try to duplicate the procedure and see if future crops display the same characteristics and always use controls so you have a base to compare. It's possible that the interaction of the caustic with the gram positive bacteria produced an enzyme that stimulates pinning. Who knows unless it can be duplicated?
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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: wstarc5]
    #7606856 - 11/07/07 12:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I've posted for years that bleach doesn't kill fungi. Even some spores, such as Cordyceps can survive several minutes in a ten percent bleach solution and still germinate.

that disproves your theory right there in RRs post


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
    #7606857 - 11/07/07 12:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

This kid was causing issues on his first day..

I asked too many stupid questions my first week (like everyone) but this kid is just full of stupid answers...


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: Slimz]
    #7606876 - 11/07/07 12:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I apologize for my irritability. pertinent words of wisdom, prove or disprove(then defend my results)


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Re: Bleach and pinset *DELETED* [Re: sublimemushhead]
    #7606882 - 11/07/07 12:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
    #7606890 - 11/07/07 12:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

that just prooves a lack of negative effects...


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: sublimemushhead]
    #7606893 - 11/07/07 01:00 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

wstarc5's theory on it being contam free. which is impoosible unless it is some kind of invitro any ways.


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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: xdaveman]
    #7606899 - 11/07/07 01:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

oh.. ok ... i follow now..


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:pm: me if you have questions about lasers

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Re: Bleach and pinset [Re: Slimz]
    #7607067 - 11/07/07 01:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I could do worse things then jump to obvious conclusions, I could display a weak theory with out evidence or repition as fact with out any logically reason as to why it happens.


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