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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: MyInnerChild]
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As relating to another human, you know your in love when you cant see yourself happy without them in your life. I married my HS Sweetheart, and am 25. No regrets. Take chances, leave regrets, and dont judge by the gut response. I hated my wife for the first year I knew her. The feeling was mutual. But, life had a way of changing perspectives...
My most important piece of advice: Dont worry about a relationship unless your comfortable and learn to be happy single and/or alone.Once you achieve true independence, then you have more to offer and recieve in a long term relationship. Lifes too short. Have fun, and be safe...

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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: MyInnerChild]
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i think some people will disagree with me here, but love is not an emotion. we would like to think so, and by we i mean our needy, self obsessed, fearful egos. love has nothing to do with our little ego dominated relationships, ones that are basically dominated by selfish needs and fear.

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well, what is our perception of reality but chemicals in the brain? weather it be (what we think is) love, what color something is, how food tastes, hot, cold etc.... all just a bunch of chemicals floating around in the brain...


yes. and love is the reason, the force, the action, the power, the god, the brain in which the chemical reactions happen.

love is all you need because love is all there is :heart:


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if i'm just a stoned stoner, sayin some stoned ass shit, please correct me :smile:

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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: chubbycharley]
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chubbycharley said:
i think some people will disagree with me here, but love is not an emotion. we would like to think so, and by we i mean our needy, self obsessed, fearful egos.


Love is not an emotion? That's quite a new one on me. An emotion is a state of mind that is usually not brought about consciously, and accompanies psychological and physiological changes. The only reason we have these "needy, self obsessed, fearful egos" is because people take love from what it really is as an evolutionary tool to ensure the species continues, and turn it into some fantasy world with shit like consumerist holidays (Sweetest day), self-serving Cosmo articles, Match.com, and reality TV, among other things.

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love has nothing to do with our little ego dominated relationships, ones that are basically dominated by selfish needs and fear.


Wrong. Love has everything to do with relationships that will ultimately lead to procreation. Love has nothing to do with Bobby and Suzy who met on the TV show "Find me a Drunk Whore To Marry".


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yes. and love is the reason, the force, the action, the power, the god, the brain in which the chemical reactions happen.

love is all you need because love is all there is :heart:


Sounds like something a fantasizing ego would think. It was good for a laugh, though.

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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: DNKYD]
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hey man, it sounds like your scientific programming has gotten the best of you.

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An emotion is a state of mind that is usually not brought about consciously, and accompanies psychological and physiological changes.


that is why love is not an emotion. love is consciousness. no one who is aware or conscious would choose to be tortured by what most people are referring to as love. what we feel when we are free from emotions is love.

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The only reason we have these "needy, self obsessed, fearful egos" is because people take love from what it really is as an evolutionary tool to ensure the species continues, and turn it into some fantasy world with shit like consumerist holidays (Sweetest day), self-serving Cosmo articles, Match.com, and reality TV, among other things.


i think you are confusing love with sex. here try this:

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The only reason we have these "needy, self obsessed, fearful egos" is because people take *sex* from what it really is as an evolutionary tool to ensure the species continues, and turn it into some fantasy world with shit like consumerist holidays (Sweetest day), self-serving Cosmo articles, Match.com, and reality TV, among other things.

 

that i can agree with.

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Wrong. Love has everything to do with relationships that will ultimately lead to procreation.


what do you mean by love? if it is sex then you are spot on. can you think anything other when you see all these 14yo girls with babies who thought they knew what love was? i went to a high school that has a nursery. let me tell you, those girls have no idea what love is. but they sure as hell know what sex is.


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Sounds like something a fantasizing ego would think. It was good for a laugh, though.


i'm glad i could entertain :laugh: :mattz: :laugh:


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Edited by chubbycharley (10/26/07 01:45 PM)

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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: chubbycharley]
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No, no. You're the one confusing love and sex. I'll quote from my original post:

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Love is a nice word for the chemical reactions that occur in our brains as an evolutionary product of our need to reproduce. We, as humans, are blessed with free will. Unfortunately this free will can get in the way of the continuation of our species. The solution? A chemical reaction ("emotion") that can override that willpower, and even common sense, to carry out the act of reproduction. You people like to call this "love".


"Love is consciousness" is some bullshit new-age rhetoric. Love is an emotion. When people feel like they are in love certain changes take place in their body to make them ready for reproduction. It's all about the continuation of species. Love is just one of many emotions that helps human beings carry out that task.

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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: DNKYD]
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Love is the polar opposite of Fear. Love is a frequency.


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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: Shroomism]
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...temporary insanity.

pz,

G


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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: MyInnerChild]
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there are different definitions of love. I have never loved anybody. I like my family and I like my friends but I don't love anybody, to the best of my knowledge.


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ca'rouse (k-rouz)
intr.v.
To engage in boisterous, drunken merrymaking.

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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: MyInnerChild]
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I have been in love
I have had my heart broken, but never lost the love.

There are TONS of songs which illustrate the nature of love.
Ever heard Hallelujah by Leonard Cohen (fantastic cover done by Jeff Buckley)? The last stanza is most important.


i heard there was a secret chord
that david played and it pleased the lord
but you don't really care for music, do you
well it goes like this the fourth, the fifth
the minor fall and the major lift
the baffled king composing hallelujah

hallelujah...

well your faith was strong but you needed proof
you saw her bathing on the roof
her beauty and the moonlight overthrew you
she tied you to her kitchen chair
she broke your throne and she cut your hair
and from your lips she drew the hallelujah

hallelujah...

baby i've been here before
i've seen this room and i've walked this floor
i used to live alone before i knew you
i've seen your flag on the marble arch
but love is not a victory march
it's a cold and it's a broken hallelujah

hallelujah...

well there was a time when you let me know
what's really going on below
but now you never show that to me do you
but remember when i moved in you
and the holy dove was moving too
and every breath we drew was hallelujah

well, maybe there's a god above
but all i've ever learned from love
was how to shoot somebody who outdrew you
it's not a cry that you hear at night
it's not somebody who's seen the light
it's a cold and it's a broken hallelujah

hallelujah...


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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: FungusMan]
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Dont worry about a relationship unless your comfortable and learn to be happy single and/or alone.Once you achieve true independence, then you have more to offer and recieve in a long term relationship. Lifes too short. Have fun, and be safe...


Thanks man...I really appreciate your perspective. I'm 20 years older than you and needed you to enlighten me this way, I'm embarassed to  say it but I had a stooopid romantic concept of love that my Mum and 70's T.V. programmed into my brain...damn! (the media tells us the same crap lies now, but with the added "fact" that she has to be SKINNY too lol)

My outer adult tells my inner child: "Let's start fresh!" :laugh:
:thumbup: :thanx:


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My inner child runs with scissors but plays nicely with others!

Sometimes the light's all shine'in on me,
Other times I can barely see.
Lately it occurs to me,
What a looong strange trip it's been! ~ Truck'in

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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: FungusMan]
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FungusMan said:
Dont worry about a relationship unless your comfortable and learn to be happy single and/or alone.


i completely agree with this. i've been single for two years now and im happy. i want a girlfriend but i wont sell myself short.


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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: Colbadol]
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well, maybe there's a god above
but all i've ever learned from love
was how to shoot somebody who outdrew you
it's not a cry that you hear at night
it's not somebody who's seen the light
it's a cold and it's a broken hallelujah

hallelujah...


Well, My overly-romantic Mum "loved" L.C. so I can only damn him with the rest of the depressing message you sent me here...you know he died a genius but a broken alcoholic right? I don't want to be or drink from and internalize the downer messages of the likes of Vango or the one you mentioned here, Cohen.

What I do want is pure if complicated love. That's the nature of the beast, to be complicated.

I want to give. I want to be understood and appreciated.

I don't only want great sex or I'd be extremely satisfied already as what we have in that dept. is ironically unbelievably mind-blowing.

Thank you so much for trying though. you did a lot of typing there and I appreciate the time and effort.
Keep Truuck'in.
MIC


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My inner child runs with scissors but plays nicely with others!

Sometimes the light's all shine'in on me,
Other times I can barely see.
Lately it occurs to me,
What a looong strange trip it's been! ~ Truck'in

Edited by MyInnerChild (10/27/07 09:58 PM)

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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: MyInnerChild]
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love is a bunch of chemicals in the brain just like everything else that we perceive :smirk:


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The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. One cannot help but be in awe when he contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life, of the marvelous structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a little of this mystery every day. Never lose a holy curiosity. ~ Albert Einstein
"Fear is the great barrier to human growth." ~ Dr. Robert Monroe



~~~*Dosis sola facit venenum*~~~

*Check my profile to listen to my music* :smile:

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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: Locus]
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Locus said:
love is a bunch of chemicals in the brain just like everything else that we perceive :smirk:


Locus needs a bj badly. lol Love ya man! :heart:


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My inner child runs with scissors but plays nicely with others!

Sometimes the light's all shine'in on me,
Other times I can barely see.
Lately it occurs to me,
What a looong strange trip it's been! ~ Truck'in

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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: MyInnerChild]
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real love is pure bliss ~


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Wheels of cheese wheeels of cheeeeese!!!

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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: Merkin]
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Merkin said:
real love is pure bliss ~


Real good sex is pure bliss while real love can hurt sometimes...it's not always easy street but you stick with your partner anyway cuz your love brings you above the pettiness and superficiality of needing it to always be bliss..imo and I'll add that a real good trip is the same, for me anyway. The beauty is in the acceptance that it's not perfect and the bliss stems from that acceptance.


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My inner child runs with scissors but plays nicely with others!

Sometimes the light's all shine'in on me,
Other times I can barely see.
Lately it occurs to me,
What a looong strange trip it's been! ~ Truck'in

Edited by MyInnerChild (10/28/07 12:25 AM)

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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: MyInnerChild]
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Holy crap...Love is am emotion not freaking magic. mankind has a need to make things more powerful than they really are (Cough! God, Cough) Love is not a switch that turns off and on, it not like one day your walking around with a person you like a lot one second and then BAM, out of nowhere, LOVE! Love is an emotion that has a Grey area, you love someone when YOU decide what you are feeling is love. It's subjective to the person feeling it. What you may call love, I might call "I like you a lot" and visa-versa. Oh, and that one guy is totally right, its all chemical reactions anyway. People in here of all places should know that chemicals change the way people think. Just because you would change your natural instincts to die for someone you "Love" Doesn't mean it is magically above all other things. That being said, I really love my Guinea Piggies! Their so freaking cute!


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Civil disobedience is insufficient.

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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: MyInnerChild]
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Hmmm nice post, I need to look at my love situation in this light, should help with some timing issues and the wait involved.

Thank you.


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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
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Muffin~ That was an emotionally charged post if I ever posted one...lol...as I'm usually the one to get strong about my opinions but when it comes to love, well, I guess I'm the noob around here.
Btw...ich hob a guinea schvine ochet. (I also have a g.p.) Mine is named Ginny Weasly. Wee wee wee all the way home! lol

LukeM etc.~What timing are you referring to man? Not asking her out b/f someone else did?..or wha? :laugh:

Come on people...check out my orig. post in this thread and answer is you ever felt lust and thought it was love...k? :thanx:

Edited by MyInnerChild (10/28/07 01:06 AM)

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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: MyInnerChild]
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Yeah, I get like that, sorry....


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