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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: Muffin]
    #7568559 - 10/28/07 01:22 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Muffin said:
Yeah, I get like that, sorry....




One thing you gotta know about this place...nobody appologizes...we just are what we are and only take back a wrong spelling or quoting the wrong source but even that's rare....lol
Take it easy and enjoy the space...some are uptight but most are welcoming and thought provoking. Tell it with as many exclaimation marks as you wish love. :heart: MIC


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Sometimes the light's all shine'in on me,
Other times I can barely see.
Lately it occurs to me,
What a looong strange trip it's been! ~ Truck'in


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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7568564 - 10/28/07 01:26 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I met a wonderful man last fall, we fell in love and moved in together... He is older, has a sister with MS that he is supporting, it gets really complicated lol.

Ummm she is a bitch, mentally unstable and completely/unhealthily co dependent and very comfortable in this situation. He is a complete sweetheart, willing to sacrifice his now for her because he feels it is right. I supported his supporting her, but not in the way he was (letting her be a bitch) he is under a lot of stress with his business and life in general... I wanted everything right now haha.

So I moved out into my place, we did the off and on thing and are basically together but not officially, we play that role in each others lives. He has made move to resolve some stress in his life, mainly bought he a condo and going to move her out. He needs time to recharge and rethink, without me being in his face about it...

We both had and still have growing to do, I think in like 6 months or so we will be at a good place for one another.

And yea she has MS but it has been repressed for like 5 years and things, she is in her position now because of horrible life choices.

Anyways a novel later that is what I meant about timing and thinking about it like you would a trip, with the good comes the hard and if the end result is worth it then hold on. I am completely in love with him and am pretty confident we will be together for many many years.


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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #7568569 - 10/28/07 01:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Shit that post was bad for word sequence and grammar, tired and sick.

Love is a crazy thing, the man in my post... we met for about 10 minuets then the next time I say him we crossed lines, turned out we in love... It happens, it doesn't make sense, but it will make you FEEL emotions more strongly then you could ever imagine until your in the thick of it.


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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #7568584 - 10/28/07 01:39 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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LukeMWSki said:
the man in my post... turned out we in love... It happens, it doesn't make sense, but it will make you FEEL emotions more strongly then you could ever imagine until your in the thick of it.




I'm pleased to have someone add input about being in love tho it's the same gender (personaly, I'd say I'm 98% straight)...any Shroomery women in love the way Luke is...same gender? The love issues remain pretty much the same dontcha think?

Good luck Luke... :heart:


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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7568931 - 10/28/07 06:50 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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MyInnerChild said:
I don't only want great sex or I'd be extremely satisfied already as what we have in that dept. is ironically unbelievably mind-blowing.






Great sex really does have a way of obscuring a person's vision I think. A person (at least this person) tends to not question as much when they are recovering from a mindblowing orgasm. Too bad we can't spend every second in bed.


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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: mushbaby]
    #7569054 - 10/28/07 07:53 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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mushbaby said:
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MyInnerChild said:
I don't only want great sex or I'd be extremely satisfied already as what we have in that dept. is ironically unbelievably mind-blowing.






A person (at least this person) tends to not question as much when they are recovering from a mindblowing orgasm.  Too bad we can't spend every second in bed.




Oh Mush...you took the mush-words right out of my mouth there...lol We have too much in common it seems. :wink:

A thought on Lust and love:

You must agree that women give sex for love and men give love for sex...at first at least...till the relationship solidifies and hopefully we meet in the middle each giving both because we want the other to have as mind-blowing and warm and supportive an experience as we do...in bed and out of it...


Support? Sure, I support when he's on top and he supports when I am... :laugh: but seriously, I mean moral, friendship and acceptance support.

MIC


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My inner child runs with scissors but plays nicely with others!

Sometimes the light's all shine'in on me,
Other times I can barely see.
Lately it occurs to me,
What a looong strange trip it's been! ~ Truck'in


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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: GoaM]
    #7569072 - 10/28/07 08:03 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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GoaM said:
...temporary insanity.




..the temporary insanity isn't love, its the stuff that blocks it..imo


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My inner child runs with scissors but plays nicely with others!

Sometimes the light's all shine'in on me,
Other times I can barely see.
Lately it occurs to me,
What a looong strange trip it's been! ~ Truck'in


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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7569124 - 10/28/07 08:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i shit on love


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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: TODAY]
    #7569125 - 10/28/07 08:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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TODAY said:
there are different definitions of love.  I have never loved anybody.  I like my family and I like my friends but I don't love anybody, to the best of my knowledge.




The inuit have doznes of words for snow ie: wet snow, dry snow icy snow etc. cuz it means a lot to them. It's part and parcle of thier lives. I've always felt that having so few words for love reflects sadly on our society. :frown:

Admiration isn't love but can go along with it...so can gratitude and adoration. Roamance isn't love but is a stage at the beginning that sometimes gets it's hour in the sun again as the relationship grows. :wink: Basically, we have one-word-fits-all like pantyhose and annoying panyhose they are! lol :laugh:

As far as not loving anybody...I sure hope you love yourself man, cuz if you don't do it...nobody else will, except parents...imo Not completly anyway...again, imo.

As an aside: My Mum said that about a woman watching her figure saying "If you don't do it..nobody else will"...cute overly-romantic woman that she is...God love 'er...and I do too! The two of them (God and Mum) and the Dad I love with whom she celebrated her 50th last year, had a three way of sorts, in a nice way...and made me what I am today....a human being w/a beating :heart: .


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My inner child runs with scissors but plays nicely with others!

Sometimes the light's all shine'in on me,
Other times I can barely see.
Lately it occurs to me,
What a looong strange trip it's been! ~ Truck'in


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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7569482 - 10/28/07 11:30 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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You must agree that women give sex for love and men give love for sex...at first at least...till the relationship solidifies and hopefully we meet in the middle each giving both because we want the other to have as mind-blowing and warm and supportive an experience as we do...in bed and out of it...




This is an over-generalization, and not applicable to women and men who are comfortable defining their sexuality and their level of emotional intimacy as different aspects of their relationship. If we must "trade" love for sex, then we are enjoying and appreciating neither, IMO.


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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: Veritas]
    #7570429 - 10/28/07 05:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I don't trade, personally and never did but the orig. attraction goes that way I feel for many...and you're right, not all...excuse the generalization.


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My inner child runs with scissors but plays nicely with others!

Sometimes the light's all shine'in on me,
Other times I can barely see.
Lately it occurs to me,
What a looong strange trip it's been! ~ Truck'in


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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7570522 - 10/28/07 06:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

love is fucking disgusting


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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7570546 - 10/28/07 06:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

If most women give sex for love, then why do so many married women have affairs? To get more love, or to experience sex?

I think that sexual desire is a big motivator for both men and women, and that it may or may not be accompanied by love.


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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: Veritas]
    #7570626 - 10/28/07 06:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

What about love?

Overrated.

Biochemically...

...no different than eating
large quantities of chocolate.


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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: bort]
    #7570924 - 10/28/07 08:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Veritas~ I'm so glad you gave input and not just correction.

My earlier point was that, yes, and I'll risk saying generally, at the start of a relationship, a man is looking for his physical needs to be taken care of b/f his emotional needs and the opposite with a woman even though to an outside observer it sure looks like each side is receiving both.

They are receiving both if both sides understand the other's basic hierarchy of needs. It's simply a matter of different priorities that I was addressing. It's never as back and white as he gives x to get y and she gives y to get x.

I'm fully aware that there are exceptions to every generalization since each individual on the planet is a separate world unto his or her self. Thanks for the input, love.

I've received a lot of food for thought here. I thank each and every one of you who took the time to read and respond! Love ya! :heart:
XXXOOO MIC


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My inner child runs with scissors but plays nicely with others!

Sometimes the light's all shine'in on me,
Other times I can barely see.
Lately it occurs to me,
What a looong strange trip it's been! ~ Truck'in


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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7570941 - 10/28/07 08:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

oxytocin... look it up
like bridgelisa said, its all biochemical


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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: ChiefGreenLeaf]
    #7570998 - 10/28/07 08:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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ChiefGreenLeaf said:
oxytocin... look it up
like bridgelisa said, its all biochemical




Funny you should bring it up...in our house we call bringing on contractions with sex at the start of labour "oxytocin therapy" lol.

It ain't love but I appreciate the "boost" all the same! :smile: It also makes the milk come down during sex when it resumes some weeks after birth. That's a proven biological fact that she's effected by the oxytocin. This can be enhanced by her emotional/hormonal response to him but isn't dependant on it. She'll respond physically...as I do when I come. That ain't love. We love who we give to.

One would think that a mother of a special needs child would love that child less based on the extra time and effort they require but the opposite is often the case. therefore I conclude, and this is not based only on my personal observations:

The more you give the more you love.
:heart:

I started this post to get input to know:
1)What other's do to enhance thier love realtionships and
2)If y'all ever mistook lust for love.

No one has admitted to the second yet... hmm... :wink:


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My inner child runs with scissors but plays nicely with others!

Sometimes the light's all shine'in on me,
Other times I can barely see.
Lately it occurs to me,
What a looong strange trip it's been! ~ Truck'in


Edited by MyInnerChild (10/28/07 09:00 PM)


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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7572590 - 10/29/07 10:56 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

love has nothing to do with interpersonal relationships, you people need to meditate more!

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I started this post to get input to know:
1)What other's do to enhance thier love realtionships and
2)If y'all ever mistook lust for love.




1)the true "love relationship", that which is between you and the universe, needs no enhancing as it is infinite. it is infinite because you and the universe are one. sometimes however, meditation is required to be still enough in your mind to notice these things.

2)i think most people have mistook lust for love. i think most people have mistook many emotions for love. hence you have all these people with fucked-up ideas of love.

lust is the emotion most confused for love. lust is the biochemical reaction most people are referring to as love. love is what allows us to have biochemical reactions in the first place. we are love.

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The more you give the more you love.




true giving is an act of emotional release and so leads to a state of emotional freedom or love. but, if you give with expectations to receive, that is perversion. that is wanting something someone else has, not realizing that what is wanted is already had.


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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7572649 - 10/29/07 11:15 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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MyInnerChild said:
...That ain't love. We love who we give to.

The more you give the more you love.
:heart:





Very true. Love is an emotion that drives people to be selfless and help the recipient of their love in whatever way they can. I have never felt more strong feelings of love than when talking to a close friend, helping her through a confusing time. Love is unconditional and based on giving and sharing. That sounds way cheesey but seriously, I've only figured that out in the past few months.

I have most definitely experienced lust as well and mistaken it for love. Lust can seriously be a harder emotion to shake than love. I was sure I was in love with a girl once, but in retrospec,t she was simply an absolutely ideal mate and the blind lust I felt for her made me think I was in love. It looked like love to anyone else too. It wasn't love, but it was good times nonetheless. I've only been in love with one person, I think, and I knew it was love because I didn't have an especially strong desire to have sex with her, just to... feel love, I don't know. It's the strangest of human emotions and really escapes all attempts at explanation...


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Re: Define "love" for me if you please... [Re: some1whoisntme]
    #7572761 - 10/29/07 11:57 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

love is the timeless state of being that can be reached through meditation and sometimes when your heart is open in non-judgement. IMO it doesn't have to do anything with other people or external stimuli.


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