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September 11 Wiki Theorys
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories

just thought i would share.

The part that caught my eye is where they talk about what hit the pentagon, and how they took the video's from teh gastation across the street.


They also talk about how the planes could have been CGI'ed into the movies.

Imagine, a couple hundred "actors" running around screaming about seeing a plane hit, everyone on the ground would take it as truth.

then throw a few video's up and boom you have history.


one of my theorys is this

lets go a little deeper , what if another country wanted to take over the usa. we are actually worth "some" money to someone.

knock out a few buildings ( i heard their are some nice beam technologys out that could demolish these buildings from space)//china anyone?

then shoot a missle into the pentgon while everyone is looking at 2 buildings calapse.

you would pretty much have us by the balls, for a quick and smooth takeover.

and im sure we all noticed how much the gov has changed. maybe alot more than we thought?

anyways thought the conspiracy nutts might like a thread to dattle in


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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: makaveli8x8]
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In the thing I watched, the series thing i posted in the other thread, they showed those videos. It showed and talked about it at the same time, it did NOT show a plane hit the building, instead it looked like a bomb went off.

But you might be talking about the towers. I believe planes did hit those towers. The series says there was bombs in there too. Also some other bomb type thing that has white smoke and gets 4000+ degrees in 2 seconds, they believe that is what melted the towers and brought them down, because normal flames cannot melt steel.


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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: makaveli8x8]
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Planes CGI'ed into the movies????!?!?!

My God...the tin-foil hat crowd is really grasping at straws now. There are tons and tons of videos of the planes hitting the towers. After the first tower was hit think about how many people trained their cameras on the towers. Are these people implying that every single person's video was edited? Are these people implying that every single witness (probably at least several hundred thousand) is lying about seeing the second plane hit the tower?

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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: makaveli8x8]
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There is no doubt in my mind that the government played a role in the tragedy.  In my opinion they orchestrated the whole thing.  They needed to rally support to go into Iraq.  The United States for the most part thinks it is untouchable.  We have been engraved with the idea that the United States is by far superior to all other nations.  I know many of us do not think this way, especially being part of a community such as this.  But overall, I feel the general tone is "Don't fuck with us...because we will fuck you worse."

By staging an attack in our backyard, and especially on such symbols of American achievement,  the gov't was able to get the general populace all riled up and very ready to invade whoever the gov't said was to blame.  That was the plan all along, they wanted to go into Iraq, I believe most importantly for oil, but also to carry out a personal vendetta held by the Bush family, again the whole "Don't fuck with us" thing.

We were tricked into going to war.  Plain and simple.  In my eyes the evidence that is available is way too overwhelming to not see the huge role our own gov't played in this sick and twisted plan. 

Sorry if I made no sense, im finally winding down from a very psychedelic evening.  :crazy:


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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: RandalFlagg]
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RandalFlagg said:
Planes CGI'ed into the movies????!?!?!

My God...the tin-foil hat crowd is really grasping at straws now.  There are tons and tons of videos of the planes hitting the towers.  After the first tower was hit think about how many people trained their cameras on the towers.  Are these people implying that every single person's video was edited?  Are these people implying that every single witness (probably at least several hundred thousand) is lying about seeing the second plane hit the tower?


yah check the wiki link, it has a picture where they think they used "cgi" on a plane video.

i was mostly talking a bout the first plane.  i kinda forgot it got hit more than once, i soppose by then alot of people would have gathered with camera's.

but that also brings another good point, how the hell do you let 2 planes hit the same building:lol:

exactly that...you let it happen.


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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: FunkyLoFi]
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FunkyLoFi said:
There is no doubt in my mind that the government played a role in the tragedy. In my opinion they orchestrated the whole thing.



So, the "video wills" of many of the Saudi hijackers were faked? The Islamic extremists (who are quite real, determined, and active) are all made up? It's funny how some people are so willing to accept the theories of crackpot conspiracy nuts but are unwilling to accept the common sense explanations of many mainstream institutions and educated people.

FunkyLoFi said:
We have been engraved with the idea that the United States is by far superior to all other nations. I know many of us do not think this way, especially being part of a community such as this.


Not all of the members of this community are pitiful self-loathing Leftists.

It is only natural for citizens to have pride in their nation. Americans have it, Brazilians, have it, Canadians have it, etc.. It is common for people to naturally favor their own nation. There's nothing wrong with that.

FunkyLoFi said:
But overall, I feel the general tone is "Don't fuck with us...because we will fuck you worse."



This is a good attitude for a nation to have. It can dissuade aggression if one makes it clear that he (or his nation) is willing to defend itself.

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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: FunkyLoFi]
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Heres more possible truth bush knew about it (he slips and tells you he knew about bombs), and more proof that there was bombs in the towers which I watched a different video which pretty much made me 90% sure there were bombs that played a role in the towers.



If anyone is interested in seeing alot of "coincidences" I would recommend watching this series thats on youtube. Its pretty interesting.

Heres part one If you wanna start it out and go through it


It talks about so much stuff. Catches bush In some lies too. He said he seen the first plane hit a tower on tv on 9/11 while he was in the classroom.


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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: makaveli8x8]
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makaveli8x8 said:
but that also brings another good point, how the hell do you let 2 planes hit the same building:lol:

exactly that...you let it happen.


It was the same complex, not the same building.  Two towers were hit.  The planes hit in rapid succession.  There was only a few minutes in between impacts.  The terrorists planned it that way so that we would not have the time to respond.

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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: RandalFlagg]
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RandalFlagg said:
FunkyLoFi said:
But overall, I feel the general tone is "Don't fuck with us...because we will fuck you worse."



This is a good attitude for a nation to have. It can dissuade aggression if one makes it clear that he (or his nation) is willing to defend itself.


I think If we didnt attack them we would have shown some kind of weakness. And maybe even more attacks already. Didnt bin laden declare holy war on america before they sent the hijackers over?


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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: sublimistri]
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eh probly, but bin laden is this "mystery man" that nobody has seen in real life. I mean thier is this free 20 billion dollar lottery ticket floating around you just gotta find it. If it was laying around in the usa how long till someone found it?

yet somehow all his video's make it over here......he's either hollywood, or his cause must really be worth fighting for to not turn him in for that money.


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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: sublimistri]
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sublimistri said:
I think If we didnt attack them we would have shown some kind of weakness. And maybe even more attacks already. Didnt bin laden declare holy war on america before they sent the hijackers over?


Bin Laden did declare holy war on America before September 11 in a fatwa (Islamic religious edict).

However, you are lumping the Iraqis/Arabs and the jihadist/Bin Laden types into one category. This is an erroneous assumption. These are two different groups of people. In my opinion, the jihadists must be confronted and killed because they seek to kill us. The vast majority of Arabs are not jihadists (although a significant amount have sympathies towards them), but are so backwards as to be useless and not worth wasting effort on.

We are pursuing the worst policy in Iraq. We are wasting resources on trying to build up a nation that is full of people with a stone-age mentality and we are distracted from pursuing the Al Qaeda organization who perpetrated 9/11. Also, we have played right into Iran's hands (Iran is our enemy) and they are pestering us as much as is possible.

It is a foreign-policy blunder on a monumental scale.

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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: makaveli8x8]
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makaveli8x8 said:
eh probly, but bin laden is this "mystery man" that nobody has seen in real life. I mean thier is this free 20 billion dollar lottery ticket floating around you just gotta find it. If it was laying around in the usa how long till someone found it?

yet somehow all his video's make it over here......he's either hollywood, or his cause must really be worth fighting for to not turn him in for that money.


Bin laden is rich, his followers probably dont care about money, what are they gonna buy in the desert anyway... Besides, Hes like a leader to them. Hes gotta be in some kind of hole.


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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: makaveli8x8]
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makaveli8x8 said:
eh probly, but bin laden is this "mystery man" that nobody has seen in real life. I mean thier is this free 20 billion dollar lottery ticket floating around you just gotta find it.


Many people have seen and met Bin Laden in real life. There are many videos of him walking around and such. Also, his bounty is 25 million I believe. It is nowhere near being 20 billion.

Is it possible that the U.S. government knows where he is and they are allowing him to stay free as part of a strategy? Yes, it is possible.

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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: makaveli8x8]
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> Imagine, a couple hundred "actors" running around screaming about seeing a plane hit

A friend of the family was in one of the rooms that got hit by the plane. He is certainly no actor. One of his office mates was killed. He certainly didn't volunteer to die to add credibility to a cover story. Of all the 9/11 conspiracy theories, the pentagon being hit by a missile has to be the most idiotic of them all.


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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: Seuss]
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RandalFlagg said:
sublimistri said:
I think If we didnt attack them we would have shown some kind of weakness. And maybe even more attacks already. Didnt bin laden declare holy war on america before they sent the hijackers over?


Bin Laden did declare holy war on America before September 11 in a fatwa (Islamic religious edict).

However, you are lumping the Iraqis/Arabs and the jihadist/Bin Laden types into one category.


Im just saying our attack should somewhat intimidate them as a whole. Because im sure they all would like to fight america, except the few that we are helpin.


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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: sublimistri]
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aw which brings up another conspiracy theory, supposed bin laden works for bush...something about ties to oil or some such thing.


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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: makaveli8x8]
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an yah im way to lazy and tired to look it up


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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: sublimistri]
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sublimistri said:
Bin laden is rich, his followers probably dont care about money, what are they gonna buy in the desert anyway... Besides, Hes like a leader to them. Hes gotta be in some kind of hole.


A significant amount of Bin Laden's fortune has been seized and such. But, money still does roll into the coffers of Islamic extremists from Islamic charities and wealthy Saudi extremists.

And you're right. His followers don't care about money. They only care about their cause and are willing to die for it.

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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: makaveli8x8]
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I watched some speeches of bush, and at times It seems like he wants to get us all killed. I think some of those speeches were edited though, they didnt really go with his lips. But in those speeches he sounded like he was looking forward to oncoming attacks, which was scary..


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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: makaveli8x8]
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makaveli8x8 said:
supposed bin laden works for bush...something about ties to oil or some such thing.


The Bin Laden family is massive. It literally has thousands of members and Osama is one of like 40 children of the Bin Laden patriarch who started a very lucrative Saudi construction company. The Bin Laden family has disowned Osama.

Now, is it possible that this prominent Saudi family had some dealings at some time and in some way with the Bush family (a prominent American family) directly or indirectly? Of course it is. Is this proof of some type of complicity between Bush and Osama to do bad things or some such conspiracy nonsense? No.

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