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Invisibletruekimbo2
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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: Irradiated_Feces]
    #5921711 - 08/01/06 12:19 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

lol, phred i read one of the sections about the pentagon on that link you sent. that guy makes no sense. i didn't see very many facts there that contradict anything. if anything i think i believe the origional more now...


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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: truekimbo2]
    #5921720 - 08/01/06 12:23 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

why did the FBI take all the footage from security cameras away?

the hotel, the gas station cameras were both aimed at the side of the crash

within minutes they were confiscated, thats pretty fuckin weird


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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: Atheist]
    #5921725 - 08/01/06 12:24 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

You're on a need-to-know basis and you don't need to know.


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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #5921748 - 08/01/06 12:30 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

this is why i plan on escaping to canada.

i cant figure it out, so i wont be a part of it anymore.
:paranoid:


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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: PurpleKush]
    #5921785 - 08/01/06 12:41 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

however i didn' bother to click the links to the eyewitnesses, although it doesn't prove it to me, i think its an excelent counterpoint to the idea it wasn't a plane...

i take back my earlier position, although i still think that first site was lame, the eyewitness accounts speak for themselves.


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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: Phred]
    #5921863 - 08/01/06 01:05 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Phred said:
That video has been so thoroughly debunked by so many different people I'm surprised they bothered to make a "Second Edition".

There are hundreds of websites shredding pretty much every point made in that ridiculous piece of nonsense, but here's one of the more comprehensive ones -- http://www.ccdominoes.com/lc/LooseChangeGuide.html

Phred




Wow that link covers alot of topics allot better than the popular mechanics article as far as "debunking" goes. :eek: A quick read on the molten steel section however is missing things such as  These findings  Or maybe their take on this is located somewhere i could not find it. The 911 military drills section is particularly short, void of facts but filled with this persons rhetoric.


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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: robbyberto]
    #5921949 - 08/01/06 01:37 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Funny thing is, there have been demolition experts and scientists who have come to question the official story. A prominent physics professor at BYU has spoken about how a fire could not have caused WTC7 to collapse at free-fall speed the way it did. Several demolitions experts have said that not only did it look like a demolition job, but one of the finest demolition jobs they've ever seen.


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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: Silversoul]
    #5921992 - 08/01/06 02:02 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Your bullshit makes me sick. Go die.


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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: robbyberto]
    #5922003 - 08/01/06 02:07 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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robbyberto said:
Your bullshit makes me sick. Go die.



So, you wish death upon me for stating what certain experts believe? How kind of you.


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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: robbyberto]
    #5922009 - 08/01/06 02:10 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

What have you done to prove what he says is bullshit? Come back with an open mind you ignorant SOB.


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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: p0ng]
    #5922021 - 08/01/06 02:16 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

regardless of the content of Loose Change, there is enough evidece to show government complicity. It's a matter of one's ability to set aside their beliefs about how the geopolitical game is played, and the nature of the players, and look at the facts. From there one can either choose denial, or to face reality.

Most people's beliefs about government are based on what they've been told by institutions set up to ensure survival of government through indoctrination, also known as education. If one can't even realize that simple fact how can we expect them to merely attempt to question those beliefs? We can't.


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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: Clean]
    #5922025 - 08/01/06 02:19 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Clean said:
government complicity.




for many years before the 9/11 the government has had complicity in domestic acts of 'terrorism'


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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5922060 - 08/01/06 02:37 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

For sure, but tell that to someone who thinks that the people in the seats of governmet are actually in opposition to so called muslim extremists, and that they are not working in concert behind the media smokescreen.

WW2: Pearl Harbor
Vietnam: the gulf of Tonkin
both were blatant setups. hell even the mainstream press has admitted the Tonkin fraud!

i guess i'm just tired of banging my head against a brick wall when it comes to people who refuse to seriously look at 9-11. The evidence speaks for itself, but what's the use if someone is happy to remain deaf and ignorant?


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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: Clean]
    #5922066 - 08/01/06 02:42 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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WW2: Pearl Harbor
Vietnam: the gulf of Tonkin
both were blatant setups. hell even the mainstream press has admitted the Tonkin fraud!



You're forgetting the most blatant one of all: The sinking of the U.S.S. Maine.


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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: Clean]
    #5922071 - 08/01/06 02:42 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Clean said:
The evidence speaks for itself




there is no evidence, case in point; Richard Murrah Federal Building, the site was
demoloshed prior to any sort of investigation, the public outcry garnered the
response from government "we want to allow the public to try and move on, to mourn
this tragedy and move on"

interestingly, this was the 3rd (prior to) and 4th (post bombng) that the Omnibus Crime Bill was put in front of the house, that bill was ammended and renamed and passed after 9/11 as the Patriot Act


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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: Silversoul]
    #5922074 - 08/01/06 02:43 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

and the Lusitania...


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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5922085 - 08/01/06 02:45 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

however, we were still attacked on a pretty large scale

no doubt there was some fishy shit going on, but 3000 Americans died that day, something nobody should forget

especially when looking at conspiracy theories


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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: Clean]
    #5922086 - 08/01/06 02:46 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

And don't forget the Northwoods Documents. Thank God we had Kennedy in office. If those papers arrived at Bush's desk, we might've had a nuclear war.


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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5922088 - 08/01/06 02:47 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

to rephrase: the evidence (that didn't end up in a Chinese scrapyard) speaks for itself.


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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: Clean]
    #5922098 - 08/01/06 02:50 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I wonder if the Chinese examined that evidence.Never even thought about that until now.


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