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The Energy Streams Connecting Like-Minds
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First of all, I dislike much of the new-age mythology, which I often attribute to overexcitement, and much of popular science, which just seems too sterile and feel-good. However, what I'm about to say might seem to be just that, but hear me out:

There are energy channels moving all around you, and people that get into the same stream begin to meet one another, or the potential for meeting becomes very strong, ie. they will sit next to you on a train, or they will stand out in some particular way. Which energy channel you happen to be in is determined by the thoughts you are currently having and the general emotional and psychological nature of the cycle you're living in. What causes the connections is something like the energy you put out into the universe creates an emptiness inside you for that kind of energy, or you can think of the universe as a giant bubble which if you indent with a certain kind of energy it has to push back on you/rebound with that same kind of energy, as a basic physical principle, like if you cause a certain vibrational wave (fast-fast-slow-fast, for example) in a rope tied to a pole, when it gets to the other end the stationary nature of the pole causes the energy to rebound and the pattern is mimicked and sent back to you exactly as it was. And so the universe begins to return the energy as things that are giving out the same vibrations as you, it might start as something small like certain kinds of luck, or you'll start finding you make contact as you go about your day with noticeably more friendly store clerks and people on the street, then it might progress to something like very frequent/almost uncomfortable eye contact with someone on a bus or train who looks strangely familiar to you as if they are thinking in the same way as you, and then eventually the energy will come back at you as people sitting next to you on transport or at work and they'll answer their phone and you'll find they're very very much like you, or even whole groups of people who are vibrating on the same level will sit next to eachother (and you) on a train, and conversation might spark and you'll all find you're thinking in the same way, feeling the same way, having very similar desires and perspectives. This is because the universe cannot just draw the energy from anywhere, it has to come from something within it, so for instance two people who are strongly giving out very similar wave packets of energy eventually have to start attracting eachother and eventually meet, or through a network of exchanges like-minded people will start living lives that brings them closer and closer. But you have to be intuitively open to accepting and acknowledging these sorts of super-conscious connections, otherwise you'll push these sorts of events away by not being intuitively aware of the energies in your immediate environment, and so you'll never notice them, you'll acknowledge everyone with the same 'stranger' archetype. Not being intuitively aware also implies your psyche is incomplete and thus prone to instability, so you're not likely to give out the same kind of energy long enough for strong connections to take place.

This doesn't imply that there is some narrative or determinism in place here where you're supposed to meet certain people and perform certain events, it's that WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH YOUR LIFE or WHAT ENERGY LEVEL YOU WISH TO VIBRATE ON can be very similar to what SOMEONE ELSE WANTS TO DO WITH THEIR LIFE or WHAT ENERGY LEVEL THEY WISH TO VIBRATE ON and so by crossing paths you can resonate with eachother.

What goes around comes around.

You don't even have to fully participate in this process if you don't want to, it's simply awesome to sit back and watch these exchanges take place between those around you and know that despite what other errors we might have made about what life means and what we should be doing, that at least there is an order underlying the whole thing, an order, which when allowed to flow, generates such love and well-being...

Edited by tools_n_corpses (06/04/07 06:53 AM)

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Re: The Energy Streams Connecting Like-Minds [Re: tools_n_corpses]
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First of all, I dislike much of the new-age mythology

For someone who dislikes new-age mythology, your post is full of it. :grin:

Energy channels? Has anyone ever measured this or is it made up mumbo jumbo that cannot be verified in any way?

that at least there is an order underlying the whole thing, an order, which when allowed to flow, generates such love and well-being...

Where's this order and balance you speak of? I see fat Americans paying money to lose weight and Ethiopians dying of starvation; people born into wealth living carefree lives and ordinary people working their entire adult life, then dying a year before retirement; and people with medical insurance getting their hangnail treated while kids are blown apart in Iraq.

I do not understand where this "beauty" and "harmony" are supposed to be found. Throughout the animal kingdom, animals ruthlessly prey upon each other. Most of them are either cruelly killed by other animals or slowly die of hunger. For my part, I am unable to see any great beauty or harmony in the tapeworm. Let it not be said that this creature is sent as a punishment for our sins, for it is more prevalent among animals than among humans. -- Bertrand Russel


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: The Energy Streams Connecting Like-Minds [Re: Diploid]
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like attracts like.

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Re: The Energy Streams Connecting Like-Minds [Re: Archemetis]
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Vroom. Vroom.


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Re: The Energy Streams Connecting Like-Minds [Re: Diploid]
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Diploid said:
First of all, I dislike much of the new-age mythology

For someone who dislikes new-age mythology, your post is full of it. :grin:

Energy channels? Has anyone ever measured this or is it made up mumbo jumbo that cannot be verified in any way?

that at least there is an order underlying the whole thing, an order, which when allowed to flow, generates such love and well-being...

Where's this order and balance you speak of? I see fat Americans paying money to lose weight and Ethiopians dying of starvation; people born into wealth living carefree lives and ordinary people working their entire adult life, then dying a year before retirement; and people with medical insurance getting their hangnail treated while kids are blown apart in Iraq.

I do not understand where this "beauty" and "harmony" are supposed to be found. Throughout the animal kingdom, animals ruthlessly prey upon each other. Most of them are either cruelly killed by other animals or slowly die of hunger. For my part, I am unable to see any great beauty or harmony in the tapeworm. Let it not be said that this creature is sent as a punishment for our sins, for it is more prevalent among animals than among humans. -- Bertrand Russel


:thumbup:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: The Energy Streams Connecting Like-Minds [Re: Icelander]
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one time i was in a hussy about some sort of art project i was doing. Now that is a strange word to use I'm not sure why I used it, but henceforth. ... ----> so I was all into this judge society and be some sort of savior by pointing out these flaws mode of being, and I was really so out of my head thinking about this project while walking to go get food.

and this girl is walking right next to me.
and i stop, full of this hasty energy and look into the mirror and fidget with my hair. and so does she. then i leave and it dawns on me what happened.
dogs bark at this energy like crazy.


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I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo!

....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!

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Re: The Energy Streams Connecting Like-Minds [Re: leery11]
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Dogs bark at every little sound, even the ones you can't hear.

Case in point:

I have a friend who is a firefighter. A few years ago the station mascot, a German Shepherd, appeared to develop telepathy. About 30 seconds before every fire call, the dog would jump up and get very exited barking and running around.

This happened with remarkable consistency and some of the firefighters actually began to believe the dog was somehow telepathically linked to the 911 dispatchers.

But a little critical thought goes a lot farther than crafting a made up interpretation that neatly fits ones world view.

After some objective testing, I discovered that the dog was tuning into a relay clicking in the communications shed behind the station. The sound was, for humans, an order quieter than the noise floor, but the dog had no trouble hearing it.

Needless to say, the 'believers' felt a little silly once the truth was discovered.

The moral of this story is that people are susceptible to fooling themselves when they lose objectivity because they WANT something to be true. For example, hearing dogs bark for no apparent reason and arbitrarily assigning it the mystical significance de jour in that the dogs must be hearing "energy channels".

The dog couldn't possibly be barking for an ordinary reason, right? That would mess up the foregone pre-beliefs. :rolleyes:


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: The Energy Streams Connecting Like-Minds [Re: leery11]
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Quote:
one time i was in a hussy about some sort of art project i was doing...


What were you doing in an immoral woman? :eek:


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Re: The Energy Streams Connecting Like-Minds [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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I was wondering that myself.:confused:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: The Energy Streams Connecting Like-Minds [Re: Diploid]
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Diploid said:
First of all, I dislike much of the new-age mythology

For someone who dislikes new-age mythology, your post is full of it. :grin:

Energy channels? Has anyone ever measured this or is it made up mumbo jumbo that cannot be verified in any way?


Made up mumbo jumbo. It's a metaphor as long as you relate it to anything new age or popular science. It's literal as long as you relate it to exactly what I'm trying to communicate, which is the intuitive interconnectedness of things.

Diploid said:
that at least there is an order underlying the whole thing, an order, which when allowed to flow, generates such love and well-being...

Where's this order and balance you speak of? I see fat Americans paying money to lose weight and Ethiopians dying of starvation; people born into wealth living carefree lives and ordinary people working their entire adult life, then dying a year before retirement; and people with medical insurance getting their hangnail treated while kids are blown apart in Iraq.

I do not understand where this "beauty" and "harmony" are supposed to be found. Throughout the animal kingdom, animals ruthlessly prey upon each other. Most of them are either cruelly killed by other animals or slowly die of hunger. For my part, I am unable to see any great beauty or harmony in the tapeworm. Let it not be said that this creature is sent as a punishment for our sins, for it is more prevalent among animals than among humans. -- Bertrand Russel


I didn't say there was order and balance, or beauty and harmony. There are fat Americans and dying children because people have made decisions that have led to these things, and not necessarily the victims (esp. Iraq children). I can walk out and hit someone on the street in the head with a bat, and it's the exactly the same thing that's led to things like Iraq children dying.
People die a year before retirement because that's just what happens. There's no tragedy in that, the tragedy is in their choice to cling to things which are transient and not real in the noun/object sense, including their own lives.
I did say that you can achieve order and balance, beauty and harmony in your own life, and as a result of the nature of the universe, you will start networking with people doing the same thing. That's all I said...
And just to address Russel's quote - the natural-selection nature of... well, nature, is only ugly if you fear it. On a higher level, it's beautiful, because only those who do not cling survive the longest, and those who do not cling are usually the strongest or the smartest, and these eventually lead to being the most beautiful. Resistance of pain and strain against harsh conditions inevitably creates beauty.


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"Misery only doth exist, none miserable,

No doer is there; naught save the deed is found.

Nirvana is, but not the man who seeks it.

The Path exists, but not the traveler on it."

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Re: The Energy Streams Connecting Like-Minds [Re: tools_n_corpses]
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Unless you prove there is something else, I'm going to cling to life.

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Re: The Energy Streams Connecting Like-Minds [Re: FocusHawaii]
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If I were to propose anything, it would be that you are Tao. I can't prove that, only you can prove that. What I mean by 'cling' is to think of your life as an asset, something you own which you must develop and upgrade like any other material object you own, like a house or car. Because if you treat your life like this, you are afraid to lose it at any moment, and you are afraid of not fulfilling the potential of your life, so you are inevitably swept into superficiality and you never experience peace. But you must inevitably lose it, so you must emotionally neutral about losing it at any moment. You will be emotionally neutral to lose it at any moment if you allow yourself to realise your body only stops at your skin at the present moment because you're playing a game where that is one of the rules, and you've been playing this game since childhood, so it's not like you can just sit down and stop playing it, you have to overthrow it. For the moments that you do, you are Tao. It makes you feel a lot more secure knowing that when you return to your game, hopefully creating a new game with more spiritual objectives, striving to create purer energies in the Cosmic Game...

But this is one hell of a digression...


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"Misery only doth exist, none miserable,

No doer is there; naught save the deed is found.

Nirvana is, but not the man who seeks it.

The Path exists, but not the traveler on it."

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Re: The Energy Streams Connecting Like-Minds [Re: tools_n_corpses]
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*scratches head*

I find myself in agreement with diploid on this one (this is more often the case then not).

Can you expand a bit more on this tao, their are some things that only you can prove to yourself I'm more then aware of that, and some of the best things in life come from things you cannot prove (creative speculation is among one of them), but if your going to refrence this as a state of being that needs to be achieved it needs to be less generalized in order to make more sense to those unaware of the 'tao'.

Where exactly did this idea come from, what basis does it have in the perceptual nature denoted as reality? I'm not seeing it, perhaps you can expand on that idea too in order to satisfy some degree of proof. Generally if it has no basis in principles beyond the 'i think and/or like this idea' mode of thought it recieves a lot of scrutiny. I do realize what you are saying, but I think your reading far too deep into this one, you have your good days and your bad days, your more aware at times then you are at other times... but to expand on it to this degree... :shrug:


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"Their is one overriding question that concerns us all: How can we get out of the fatal groove we are in, the one that is leading towards the brink?" Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
-Substance over Style.
-Common sense is uncommon.

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Re: The Energy Streams Connecting Like-Minds [Re: tools_n_corpses]
    #7011046 -

I know exactly what you mean and agree entirely, which is to say, your perception of reality and mine are in convergence on this matter.


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Everything I post is fiction.

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Re: The Energy Streams Connecting Like-Minds [Re: Diploid]
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Diploid said:
Energy channels? Has anyone ever measured this or is it made up mumbo jumbo that cannot be verified in any way?



Dr. Valerie Hunt's "Infinite Mind" goes into her research of what she calls the ' biosphere ' , which is interchangable with terms like aura, energy field etc. apparently it's a field of subtle electromagnetic vibrations which surround people. i want to say animals and plants as well, but i don't specifically recall her doing research in those areas, although i'm mostly sure of it. anyways, in her book she goes into her research of how individuals fields would change due to what they were feeling or experiencing. dancing and meditation were noted as methods to raise these frequencies. in her research, high frequencies or vibrations in a person's biosphere resulted in a feel-good state. higher frequencies resulted in "higher conciousness" , and lower frequencies meant a feel-bad state. in her study chaotic, or low frequency areas on an individuals body corresponded with physical ailments, and in cases where there were high frequency, but unbalanced fields, there were mental disorders. there was also study done with people and how their fields would interract. in a healthy interraction, energy was exchanged and people reported feeling better. the studies showed energy fields as being the first and primary basis for interraction between people. she also found that positive ions in the atmosphere weakened the fields, and negative ions in the atmosphere strengthened it. they had a room where you could adjust this factor, and it had profound effects on the people participating in these studies . there was a connection made to the santa ana winds, which make people more prone to illness i believe. anyways she made the connection of it having a large amount of positive ions in it, and it thus causing sickness to be more prevalent. she brought up telepathy, past lives, energy healing, among other things.

there was alot more covered in the book than i can remember off the top of my head, but nothing i remember negates anything i've learned from eastern schools of thought, or new age material concerning energy fields. they've actualy got aura cameras/video cameras now, but they're rather expensive.

anyways, the latest version of this book was published in 1996, and alot of the research was done in the 70's, i think. it would be interesting to see where the research has gone today.

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Re: The Energy Streams Connecting Like-Minds [Re: anominis]
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/yawn

Controlled tests of people who say they can see auras have been done for decades. Not ONE SINGLE PERSON has ever scored better than chance.

Not ONE! :shrug:


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: The Energy Streams Connecting Like-Minds [Re: Diploid]
    #7013473 -

"they've actualy got aura cameras/video cameras now, but they're rather expensive."

Where??
Who??
Really??
Proof??


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Re: The Energy Streams Connecting Like-Minds [Re: backfromthedead]
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Those devices measure electricity. Our bodies run on electricity. So do batteries and electric motors. They must have auras too, eh?

The fact remains that there is a one million dollar prize on the table for the first person to verifiably see the aura of someone standing behind one of several screens at random with an accuracy better than random chance.

The prize has been on the table since 1960. No one has ever come close.

You can believe all you like in the face of this flat out failure; I'll follow the evidence. :shrug:


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: The Energy Streams Connecting Like-Minds [Re: backfromthedead]
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Dr. Hunt invented the Aurameter:

http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/nov1/vh.htm

Dr. Valerie Hunt seems to have done legitimate research on bioelectric energy, and then created many unsupported explanations as to the meaning of her research findings.  :shrug:

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Re: The Energy Streams Connecting Like-Minds [Re: Veritas]
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"Our bodies run on electricity. So do batteries and electric motors. They must have auras too, eh?"

I don't think that is too far off. Aura = field of disturbance caused by electrical current??


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