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how do you see energy?
#1055008 - 11/15/02 07:05 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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its my opinion that everyone views energy differently. sure they are seeing the same view, but from different perspectives.
so im curious..
how do you see energy? what perception of it do you posess?
i suppose i put mine here..
at first to me energy was vague i remember it clearly though, it was clear how vague it was the only time i could see it was at night it resembled tv fuzz. a static view i remember the more drugs i did the stronger the static became it would more intense, less deniable.
i use to be into indulging taking to the extremes, against all odds and still holding my conscious throughout it. I never figured out how i did it. i saw other people get straight lost , same dosage as i i could see this static , that always kept me aware i wasn't allowed to not see it. it became so strong after such prolonged extended disillusionment of myelf that often i looked at landscaped and did not see depth it was like a flat screen made up of this static, i could barely get the reception
after a few years and millions of mind shifting experiences things started becoming clearer in the dark the static was holding still but all the more vibrating intensely the view started looking more like an infinite array of articulate diamonds spread out in patterns each one shinning an electric spark light that would flash in a synchronic multitude as chaotic outburst
then came the shrooms. i had an abundance at my house for the time. they were my babies and i treated them like miniature universes into which i would pour my energy based diamonds. i cultivated them, extensively. it came to me throughout this period that what i had been viewing all this time was energy. i could see it clearly. it looked as if i, the viewer had an intense sunlit glare reflected from my eye into a mirror, which in turn reflected into another mirror, an thus into another. all positioned exactly to reflect from one another, like a web. i found control over this view, i could manipulate it causing complete hallucinations while sober. it was like connect the dots, the energy would cluster into form causing complex patterns. i would meditate on objects just to see how much i could alter it from its original sight. one night, it was a panoramic view of trees, my vision was sucked inside out the screen reversed. (i heard shamans have used this technique, with shadows and light. reverse the depth so that the light takes shadow perspective, and shadow that of light protruding towards you) i died that night I was carried away in a spherical vision i had never felt such clarity of mind, vision, energy.
i could concentrate at will at a singular node of energy, and magnify it. seeing something different in each. at this time, i felt my body was very vital in this all. the better i felt, the better this energy was about me. it was my assumption that each spec of light was a universe within myself and that the polarity of enlightenment went up ie: each spec of light was to become enlightened and shine its fullest before i could become enlightened, just as all the people in the world would have to have the same general insight of enlightenment for the world to become so. so i worked on cleansing my mind, body, and spirit of things. i worked on unifying each into a whole body of light. when meditating on this with eyes open (i seem to meditate much easier with my eyes open, i can relax my vision completely. sometimes to the extent where both my eyes would go strait instead of crossing into the middle of a point and i would see double of everything. my brain sides pulse through my eye balls. i can feel them pulse. they communicate through each other, and when i meditate they pulse in a harmonic tone simultaneously.) my vision melted away, like the film on a screen melts into a golden gleam and then a flickering white. my thoughts had burnt out. there was nothing running through the projector just completely white aura bright flashing white. i had found silence in my conscious.
then for the first time, color was added everything before this had been black and white. i accidentally rubbed my eyes while meditating. (eyes open) which before i was so keen on not disrupting my meditation i wouldn't have bothered. my vision exploded into an endless array of colors. i learned how to stimulate these receptors and the energy became alive with vibrant color. the gleaming white now shone off a hue of metallic plasma morphing, mainly reds, blues, greens, purples. it was all the colors at once. but when i would actually look, it would singularize them into a momentary color. the white energy become a golden white. with all the colors possible enthroned within its magma core.
the next meditation was in miami. the whole time i was in florida i felt a very very strong energy its my opinion that the landscape holds pockets of energy within valleys and structures. wind plays a huge part in circulation. in florida , its completely flat. an the energies constantly being refreshed from vast oceans. this meditation was in water. i put on snorkel gear went out into the water thanked the water for being, by graciously playing in its desire. i floated out where it was deep and you couldn't see the bottom. the view was a sea green of immense value, the suns light was shinning through it. illuminating the secrets this mass held. i meditated, eyes open. energy quickly stood attention to me. but was quickly grasped out of my reigns. it was chaotic in nature, fluid in motion, and endless in view. i was viewing the all, the vast expanse from which we come, and to which we go. energy was spewing out from all sides, and being sucked into the middle it was a beautiful sight, the patterns that came out where equal to that which came in only in value. each was as great as the last,and next. so it was like finding a black whole a portal.
so now, its quite the opposite from before. instead of viewing the energy, its viewing me. it constantly regenerated me, never leaving my attention span. i have shifted through the dense mass that it started as to find the gleaming weightlessness of a singular spark for in that spark, is the view off all time condensed into no time. a singular point expanding, and collapsing into and without itself at one moment.
imagine this funny story if you have past lives, then you surely will have future ones for if your still holding onto them through your new self then this is not the life to give you the freedom. if there is no time, then there has to be time at moments maybe when you perceive it as so at a singular moment expanded into a whole moment. so, theoretically. if you have past, and future self's. neither is the other. there all separate. held together by one soul a nd there is no time condensed over the mass of perceptional time. then all of these self's, and beings of this soul would happen at that same moment of condensed, no time. it would be an intensely bright flash, a spark of a sort. and then all these self's, all these beings, would be the one soul, at one moment. just being.
heh. that one always makes me feel funny. what's odd to me is that this has always been with me, and always will. it was only my self that was ignoring it for what was thought to be more important. until i realized the importance of this cosmic dance. i mean after all. we embody the cosmos while we dance.
*flash*
how do you see energy?
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Re: how do you see energy? [Re: Monkah]
#1055010 - 11/15/02 07:06 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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With my third eye
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Re: how do you see energy? [Re: Shroomism]
#1055017 - 11/15/02 07:13 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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-------------------- *NEW!* from Monkah Inc.The "Silence game" hold an exhilerating game between you and a friend,see who finds silence first! (warning:M. Inc. patented silence-in-its-self,failure to pay up will result in sending satan after you! err,we mean our laywer!)
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Re: how do you see energy? [Re: Monkah]
#1055019 - 11/15/02 07:15 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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With all my soul
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Re: how do you see energy? [Re: Shroomism]
#1055021 - 11/15/02 07:16 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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haha A+ for you my friend!
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Re: how do you see energy? [Re: Monkah]
#1055026 - 11/15/02 07:20 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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5 shrooms to a most excellent post! I am beginning to see auras more clearly. What before was ignored, now aware of the sight that has been all along. The astral sight, divine information from the cosmos, unlimited perceptions of reality and sovereign peace, joy and harmony. A most wonderful reality indeed.
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Re: how do you see energy? [Re: Shroomism]
#1055028 - 11/15/02 07:21 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh yes and love
Gotta have love
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Re: how do you see energy? [Re: Shroomism]
#1055033 - 11/15/02 07:30 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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What can anybody see or know that isnt energy?
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Re: how do you see energy? [Re: GazzBut]
#1055037 - 11/15/02 07:31 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nothing?
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Re: how do you see energy? [Re: Shroomism]
#1055051 - 11/15/02 07:36 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thats what I thought too
PEACE
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Re: how do you see energy? [Re: Monkah]
#1055258 - 11/15/02 09:58 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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I use a F.L.I.R. (Forward Looking Infra Red) camera.
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Re: how do you see energy? [Re: Monkah]
#1055365 - 11/15/02 10:52 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think I may be able to see this energy as well.
I've always been able since I was little to see it.
I thought I was seeing air until now.
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Re: how do you see energy? [Re: Learyfan]
#1055383 - 11/15/02 11:02 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ive always thought that auras around people and things were a form of the energy. When people's auras change size and color depending on their mood at the time, their energies change temporarily, which indicate to me that this energy is what emotion is. Ive also thought that it was used by some for telekenetic abilities.
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Re: how do you see energy? [Re: Monkah]
#1055497 - 11/15/02 11:42 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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close your eyes and you'll see more energy than with them opened.
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Re: how do you see energy? [Re: Swami]
#1056092 - 11/15/02 02:29 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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what is a f.l.i.r.?
sounds interesting.
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Re: how do you see energy? [Re: Monkah]
#1056106 - 11/15/02 02:34 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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A device that "sees" infrared in a similar manner in the way our eyes detect the visible light spectrum. Try a web search.
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Re: how do you see energy? [Re: Strumpling]
#1056112 - 11/15/02 02:36 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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close your eyes and you'll see more energy than with them opened.
this can be true. and cannot.
do you meditate with your eyes closed? if so, then thats probly why you see more energie with them closed. its just a more familiar accessed place for you?
i meditated with my eyes closed for along time. then i started meditating with my eyes open. i wanted to work on my awake being. so that i could meditate all the time my eyes were open. not just when they were closed. after along time, i noticed the energie i saw when i closed my eyes was that much more. i found this to be because the energie with my eyes open was becoming that much more.
eventualy the duality of both disolved. and the energy "screen" is there between both, the same. one is not more than the other. i can close my eyes and see the energy off a tree. i can open my eyes and see the energy off a tree. its the same both ways to me.
i think in spiritual paths, meditating with your eyes open can be a verry big step, and a verry distinct way in bettering yourself while waltzing everyday. same for the oposite though. eyes closed, or open. each is a reflection off the other. so if one becomes stronger, the other will eventualy too.
but i can definatly understand where you come from saying this. do you think you see more energy with your eyes closed because of the backdrop of eyelids serving as a comunal shadow? try focusing more on the energie with your eyes open so that you can spot it without needing shadows, just as clear as in the shadows.
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Re: how do you see energy? [Re: Monkah]
#1056174 - 11/15/02 03:05 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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i understand the relationship between open eyed and closed eyed experience, but i think i feel energy better than see it, and thru feeling it i know its there and can imagine what it looks like. sometimes i even go far enough as to make silly fizzy/fuzzy pictures in my head. i really think everything that happens to you is in your imagination anyways, so i was just curious if your saying you can "see" energy is synonymous with feeling it?
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i think feeling energy is a little more direct than seeing it if you can create the picture in your mind and put it back out into that which you see. By feeling it you channel it into your brain your brain transmutes these feelings into ascociated images thoughts or ideas. i have to agree with you and monkah, i think there has to be a merging of these two ways. i think this will lend you to direct experience and maybe a spiritual freedom and the ability to tap into anything and everything.
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Re: how do you see energy? [Re: Monkah]
#1056562 - 11/15/02 05:39 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not being a jive turkey, I cannot see energy visually, nor do I feel it with my soul (which I do not have.) Energy is the potential to do work. I hope that doesn't dissapoint anyone.
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Re: how do you see energy? [Re: Fcuerkt]
#1058184 - 11/16/02 01:39 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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notronpy das ist das. leben fur leben. 0>: - O
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Re: how do you see energy? [Re: Monkah]
#1064060 - 11/18/02 08:27 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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This guy saw the energy I see.
But then they locked him up.
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Re: how do you see energy? [Re: Xibalba]
#1066055 - 11/19/02 11:17 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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This guy saw the energy I see.
Who's this guy?
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Re: how do you see energy? [Re: David_Scape]
#1066220 - 11/19/02 12:31 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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Louis Wain. He just painted cats, and slowly went schizophrenic later in life. A pretty famous case. The later ones are just oozing with "energy" and he did some of his most artistically interesting work after he lost it.
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Re: how do you see energy? [Re: Xibalba]
#1066561 - 11/19/02 02:48 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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That one kitty is all sparkly and shiny.
I'm glad you brought up Wain because if you didn't i would have.
Feeling a little crazy are we?
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Re: how do you see energy? [Re: Xibalba]
#1066603 - 11/19/02 02:58 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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http://www.epub.org.br/cm/gallery/gall_leonardo/fig1-a.htm Neuroscience art gallery. Art by psychotics.
Edited by David_Scape (11/19/02 03:00 PM)
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Re: how do you see energy? [Re: Monkah]
#1067841 - 11/19/02 09:17 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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i see it as heavy static when i look at the sky during day or night and everywhere when its dark. i see shit move around in the sky that almost look like worms. i see sparks of different colors consantly moving around. sometimes objects stretch or appear to be breathing. i also sometimes see patterns.
Edited by spud (11/19/02 09:25 PM)
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Re: how do you see energy? [Re: spud]
#1068022 - 11/19/02 10:04 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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I remember as I child when I was laying in bed at night, in my dark room, I could see little specs of light or something the appeared to be microscopic or just really small and it was like TV fuzz, only it was in various shades of the spectrum. I originally thought it was my imagination, and thought it to be odd that it was still visible with my eyes closed. Then I discovered my brother could see it too....
Well years later, I'd basicially forgotten about it and learned that it wasn't there really, so I no longer could see it.
But now, that I've experiences what I believe to be my awakening, I see this energy all the time. At first when I'd do shrooms but, now when I'm doing yoga or meditation. It still appears like a vague fuzz, but is now more vivid than ever, and it even dances around in patterns and colorful designs.
Energy is good.
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Re: how do you see energy? [Re: Monkah]
#1069210 - 11/20/02 09:08 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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i meditate all of the time...
i was asked not to return to a local chapel recently... in a nutshell i stated to the elders that i felt the essence of what all faiths call god is in effect the "within" all things... vibrational... a cell at the tip of my finger is capable, under ideal conditions, to produce enough energy to insure it's own existence with a little left over for the collective...
the essence of our soul is an electrical impulse... energy.... it could be said in a more profound way... but u'v already done a nice job... besides, i have to hit the gym.... thanks for the nice post... peace!
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Re: how do you see energy? [Re: Xibalba]
#1070961 - 11/20/02 04:34 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: how do you see energy? [Re: Revelation]
#1071285 - 11/20/02 06:30 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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-------------------- What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?
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Re: how do you see energy? [Re: Monkah]
#1071328 - 11/20/02 06:45 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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This was such a beautiful post. (sigh)
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Oh, I like this thread... I like expressed energy from mind to paintbrush to canvas.
I do own land, I am a caucasion, it is 2002, Yet I can't yet vote...When the man relinquishes his obedience in 5 posts I will most definitely pass out a few shrooms for a most "Bill and Ted's" thread!!!
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