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Re: What if females were the stronger? [Re: fireworks_god]
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I know :wink:


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Re: What if females were the stronger? [Re: fireworks_god]
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If one had a girlfriend like MT, being a man is a pretty good deal. :thumbup:


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Re: What if females were the stronger? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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:naughty:

:lol:


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Re: What if females were the stronger? [Re: MushroomTrip]
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I had a dozen witty replies ready, but I will be 'nice'.

:lipsrsealed:


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Re: What if females were the stronger? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Oh come on, they weren't that witty. :smirk:


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Re: What if females were the stronger? [Re: fireworks_god]
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:lol:


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Re: What if females were the stronger? [Re: fireworks_god]
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I don't want to make this place like OTD, so I will PM all 118 possible replies to you.

I AM the quip master! :whip:


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Re: What if females were the stronger? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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:crazy:

The role of the Sacred Feminine is well documented, the mother figure of  the goddess of the earth. Ive read some great books about the Megalithic period but am too tired and drunk to go into them just now. Maybe wiki or google sacred feminine and megalithic europe, its really interesting stuff. Areas of the landscape that resembled the female form (ie two hills (breasts) and a small clump of woodland (vagina)) would become sacred sites and centres for standing stones.

So yes, the female of the species used to be mroe deadlier than the male.


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Re: What if females were the stronger? [Re: CerebralFlower]
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CerebralFlower said:
So everyone always assumes that men were dominant, but what if women were stronger to begin with long long ago? Someone told me if you leave a man in the wild they will die faster than a woman... i was like??? huh... also many species are female dominant..
just a thought to  pass by you

i have always thought the recessive was where it was at though :smile:



I think men were geberally dominant because they tended to form long-lasting military coalitions. It is difficult for an individual to stand up to an organized military force.


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Re: What if females were the stronger? [Re: CerebralFlower]
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What if females were the stronger?

Mud wrestling contests would be more fun to watch. :yesnod:


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Re: What if females were the stronger? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
I don't want to make this place like OTD, so I will PM all 118 possible replies to you.

I AM the quip master! :whip:



Well then get on it, skip. :grin:


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Re: What if females were the stronger? [Re: CerebralFlower]
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CerebralFlower said:
Maybe women were the ones at first who were just strong brutes, then us males had to use our mind power to overcome their physical power. Then it just went back and fourth in waves like that over the years, until the females were the ones using their minds at that point in history and it has just evolved from there.




...I doubt it. If you want some evidence, check out the archaeological record. Human females do tend to be smaller than males, and have been so since before we were homo sapiens. It would be a pretty wacky course of evolution if people were just mutating back and forth constantly. :shrug: That doesn't say a damn thing about the power balance between men/women or a culture's concepts regarding gender, though. Physical strength is not necessarily the only basis of influence. It it were, the Terminator would hold public office....:smirk: OK, so that's a bad example...

There have been countless egalitarian cultures in the history of the world, and perhaps matriarchal ones as well. Although some would argue that there are no matriarchies, just matrifocal cultures in which women have a great deal of power, but don't lord it over men and dominate them. Maybe women are too evolved to try and do something so stupid as create gender based power disbalances.  :smirk:

The idea of human history and prehistory being a pitched battle between men/women or person/person, each struggling to dominate all others is pretty silly if you ask me, and has absolutely no basis. It's simply the imposition of industrial capitalist values on the entire history of the world. It's crazy. Cultures where it is encouraged to work together and share are much more successful and adaptive than, say, ours.

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Re: What if females were the stronger? [Re: FrenchSocialist]
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I think men were gerberally dominant..






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Re: What if females were the stronger? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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There have been quite a few times through out history when women have been dominent,(example) and it hasn't really worked out any differently. Doesn't matter weather its a man or women in charge, its still someone it charge, and will end up with the same problems.


....Does this all sound as incoherent as it feels? I really shouldn't be on here when I'm still tripping, I always look back at whatever I write with confusion.


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Re: What if females were the stronger? [Re: blewmeanie]
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blewmeanie said:
There have been quite a few times through out history when women have been dominent,(example) and it hasn't really worked out any differently. Doesn't matter weather its a man or women in charge, its still someone it charge, and will end up with the same problems.





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Re: What if females were the stronger? [Re: blewmeanie]
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Have a great trip, man. :mushroom2:


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Re: What if females were the stronger? [Re: fireworks_god]
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I had a girlfriend who could beat me in an arm-wrestle, no contest. I may not be Mr.Musclebutt, but I'm not completely pathetic either, but yeah, I could hardly take her one arm with both of mine. She had a great-grandfather who was a professional sideshow strongman, apparently, and lifted horses and stuff. What I found odd was how self-concious she was about it, while at the same time knowing that it was so special that she couldn't help but be proud of it. It was fine to be impressed with her strength, but to complement her strength directly conflicted with what her percieved societal virtues should be and made her feel bad about herself (as I found out the hard way).

NiahmNyx, you are, as always, the insightful and funny voice of reason. Mad props for that last paragraph especially.


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Re: What if females were the stronger? [Re: Panoramix]
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It is my own personal belief that females played the dominant role in early society. That at the earliest stages of civilizations they developed weapons and stayed in highly organized groups before males and in doing so had a serious advantage. I believe that they were the first ones to discuss spiritual intuitions and were regarded as shamans before males.

Over time, worldly knowledge and brute strength prevailed making the physically strongest the most superior. I believe females still have a higher sense of intuition and a deeper connection with emotions than us males.


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Re: What if females were the stronger? [Re: psyka]
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psyka - why is it, do you think, that women have a 'higher sense of intution' and a 'deeper connection with emotion' than men? Do you believe there is something inherent about it, or do you think it's culturally determined?

I strongly side with the latter myself. I am quite convinced that everything we belive and the roles we take on are cultural constructs into which we are socialized, and that given different values and roles, we would all be very different people.

The more little girls hear adults talk about how women are supposedly more intuitive and emotional, the more young girls will think 'oh yeah, I'm a girl, I'm totally intuitive and emotional' and will focus on developing themselves in that area. On the other hand, if little boys constantly see and hear about how men should be tough as nails but emotionally stunted they will start to develop themselves in that direction as well, wanting to be approved of. I remember quite consciously doing this as a child. This is the process by which we learn to be part of society.

Panoramix: Thanks for the flattery!

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Re: What if females were the stronger? [Re: MushroomTrip]
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I think it gets tricky when you try to identify when in history women were "dominant," because it's usually just a matter of them having different gender roles than in other societies. In ancient Egypt, for example, women dominated the priesthood, but they still lacked political power. I think an easier determination is whether a society is more egalitarian, or if it has strict gender roles.


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